#archiveteam-bs 2018-03-14,Wed

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04:56 🔗 godane so i'm down to about 78gb of jason scott tape rips to upload
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06:48 🔗 godane so i'm capturing the 'in the footsteps of alexander the great' pbs home video tapes
06:49 🔗 godane turns out mvgroup did capture it from dvds back in 2007 : http://forums.mvgroup.org/index.php?&showtopic=21837
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12:18 🔗 JAA Looks like the opper bots left this chan again. Spread ops please?
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13:59 🔗 godane SketchCow: i'm uploading very slow right now to FOS for some reason
13:59 🔗 godane anyways DONT upload anything from Godane VHS Capture folder for awhile
14:00 🔗 JAA FWIW, my uploads seem to run fine.
14:01 🔗 JAA Might as well give an update on Charlie Rose while I'm looking at it: 3700 videos grabbed, 1700 more in the queue. Total size around 1.5 TB until now.
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19:19 🔗 vxbinaca @sketchcow So 1) That's not me I'm much more judiscious in wehat I upload 2) I try to either do emergency rips of endangered content or ask permission of the creator - and they're receptive and I can provide sources 3) When I do emergecny rips it's because I have good reason to see content being wiped. 4) I agree with you on Alex Jones, whole heartedly
19:20 🔗 vxbinaca I wouldn't do a massive upload like that. I too think he's doing it as a publicity stunt.
19:24 🔗 SketchCow Right.
19:24 🔗 SketchCow So "an hero" decided to go to you to "help you" by telling you what I "meant"
19:25 🔗 vxbinaca I'm not in IRC, I live in Discord. I saw screen grabs. I'm trying to smooth over any wrinkles, because I look up to you and want to work with you.
19:27 🔗 SketchCow Well, I did a little experiment to head off a shitshow and it caused a bigger shitshow I'll be dealing with for months
19:27 🔗 SketchCow So that's a lot of my annoyance
19:27 🔗 vxbinaca Is there anything I can do to help you?
19:28 🔗 SketchCow Just keep grabbing "rare content" where "rare content" represents "huh, this is a pretty amazing thing to upload to the internet, too bad it's just youtube"
19:28 🔗 SketchCow And mirror shows all you want, just hold off on putting them on the Archive until deletion or dead
19:29 🔗 vxbinaca If you must know, the issu came up in a discussion of another youtuber 'an hero' saved and I noted he got it before me.
19:30 🔗 SketchCow I only vaguely must know
19:30 🔗 SketchCow In trying to clarify, I muddied. Lesson learned
19:30 🔗 vxbinaca Basically you're telling to stop everything I do, because due to other projects that I'm fulfilling your request with, I'm running out of disk space and have a 70kbps upload speed at home and that is not a joke on my bandwidth.
19:31 🔗 vxbinaca I have 130 gigs of Tumblr I'm doing right now which is nothing in comparison to that site. Funeral recordings are 175 gigs.
19:32 🔗 vxbinaca Everything I do I do through a shell that goes to the Netherlands.
19:33 🔗 vxbinaca Otherwise, I'd be doing exactly what you ask. Ontop of that I've seen staff using Tubeup. That's thanks enough I don't need it enunciated.
19:34 🔗 vxbinaca If you ask again to hold onto the videos, I will cease all ripping, abandon my collections, give what's left of my etherium I pay rent on servers with to the head of my group, and walk until my local projects are done. Than that's it. I'll find another hobby
19:35 🔗 vxbinaca I'll give JAke repo access to PyPi he has write access to Tubeup he doesn't need me after that.
19:35 🔗 SketchCow I detect anger
19:35 🔗 vxbinaca Exaserbation
19:36 🔗 SketchCow So, there's a subtlety I feel is being missed.
19:37 🔗 SketchCow If in fact you're grabbing "rare content", which I define as "content that looks like it was samzidat uploaded to youtube because youtube is a place to upload videos", which means it's subject to all sorts of potential reasons to disappear, then that is something that makes total sense to mirror to the Internet Archive.
19:37 🔗 vxbinaca \Nothing is being missed. Ask again for me to do the impossible and I'll oblige you by leaving. This is a part-time thing for me. I can find other things in life to dump my energy into. It's nothing personal, I really like you, but I refuse to have conflict with you or staff. I would rather let you win
19:37 🔗 SketchCow That's just LOCKSS. That's a no brainer.
19:38 🔗 SketchCow Like, there's someone I found who uploads crazy amounts of 1980s commercials. Just hundreds. Totally makes sense to mirror at archive.
19:38 🔗 vxbinaca Right before PEriscope stopped working I was doing subject appropriate Periscope rips, I have 10,000 videos. 8,00- are gone.
19:38 🔗 vxbinaca That's just one example. I'm testing YouNow as we speak
19:39 🔗 vxbinaca These are ephemoral, vanishing things that if no one grabs them they're gone.
19:39 🔗 vxbinaca it's not just Youtube
19:39 🔗 SketchCow Yes
19:39 🔗 SketchCow But I was speaking
19:39 🔗 SketchCow Specifically
19:39 🔗 SketchCow About
19:39 🔗 SketchCow Youtube
19:39 🔗 SketchCow Shows
19:39 🔗 SketchCow Shows.
19:39 🔗 SketchCow Shows.
19:39 🔗 vxbinaca I don't do Youtube shows. I limit myself to a few subcultures that are demonstrably in danger.
19:39 🔗 SketchCow Shows. Things where they are these commercial entities, with a podcast feel but very obviously and specifically money-enterprises
19:40 🔗 SketchCow Yeah
19:40 🔗 SketchCow So knock yourself out
19:40 🔗 SketchCow Have an awesome time
19:40 🔗 vxbinaca I mean it when I say you inspired me.
19:40 🔗 SketchCow If for some reason it triggers off something on the Front office of Internet Archive, they'll go (they literally do this) "one of yours?" and I go "yeah, one of mine" and I either say "let them go" or "let them not go"
19:41 🔗 SketchCow "Ah, someone's uploading funerals"
19:41 🔗 SketchCow UPLOADING FUNERALS TOTALLY MAKES SENSE
19:42 🔗 SketchCow UPLOADING PILES OF ACTIVIST HORSESHIT MAKES SENSE
19:42 🔗 SketchCow UPLOADING BOOTLEG CONCERT FOOTAGE MAKES SENSE
19:42 🔗 SketchCow I feel like you're arguing with a cop, randomly, about whether you've been speeding recently
19:42 🔗 SketchCow And the cop's just sitting on a corner directing kids across a crosswalk
19:43 🔗 SketchCow But I mean
19:43 🔗 SketchCow < vxbinaca> If you ask again to hold onto the videos, I will cease all ripping, abandon my collections, give what's left of my etherium I pay rent on servers with to the head of my group, and walk until my local projects are done. Than that's it. I'll find another hobby
19:43 🔗 vxbinaca I'm not arguing with you, I'm pointing out that as time goes on I eneded up doing what you wanted anyway. Both at the reauest of staff and because I can't take on large projects.
19:44 🔗 SketchCow That needs to be shouted with a megaphone while you're standing on a ledge
19:44 🔗 SketchCow Very... hostage-situation
19:44 🔗 SketchCow Why are we having this discussion
19:44 🔗 SketchCow You're coming in to tell me you're doing things
19:44 🔗 SketchCow The derive queue is going to be fine or not fine
19:44 🔗 SketchCow We run cheap
19:44 🔗 SketchCow We lose 5-10 drives a week
19:45 🔗 SketchCow We don't lose the data
19:45 🔗 SketchCow But we lose the drives
19:45 🔗 vxbinaca Oh no not at all. I don't want to argue with you or be in conflict. I spend money out of my own pocket to run things on my end. If it's not wanted or causing trouble, bye . I don't want to cause you trouble.
19:45 🔗 SketchCow Ahem
19:46 🔗 SketchCow ===============================================================================================
19:46 🔗 SketchCow YOU ARE DOING FINE, CONTINUE YOUR WORK CITIZEN, ENJOY YOUR DAY
19:46 🔗 SketchCow ===============================================================================================
19:46 🔗 vxbinaca Alright. Fine. Thank you.
19:48 🔗 vxbinaca @sketchcow In closing, he thanked you all and not me: https://youtu.be/WdCES55f9To?t=460
19:49 🔗 SketchCow Almost as if people on the internet use incomplete information to make delcarations and thanks
19:52 🔗 vxbinaca I actually prefer he tanked you all instead of me
19:52 🔗 vxbinaca I don't do what I do for personal recognition.
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23:27 🔗 godane SketchCow: the only alex jones stuff i upload is the audio of his radio show
23:27 🔗 godane we are talking shows from 2003 though
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