#archiveteam-bs 2018-10-31,Wed

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00:55 🔗 Flashfire http://www.astronomy.com/news/2018/10/trove-of-newly-released-nasa-audio-puts-you-backstage-during-apollo-11
00:55 🔗 Flashfire Does IA now have this machine
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13:03 🔗 godane SketchCow: i'm now finally capturing the america's got talent finale tape
13:04 🔗 godane it was one of the tapes i pushed off cause its not a very old broadcast tape
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16:13 🔗 SketchCow Oh lovely
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17:10 🔗 mundus20- Can someone queue forums.cracked.com on archive bot?
17:10 🔗 mundus20- some of the sub forums close today
17:11 🔗 JAA mundus20-: We already have a job for it, e9bwrlokmce28vq832rb5cgr.
17:11 🔗 mundus20- awesome thanks
17:11 🔗 JAA I'm wondering though whether I should send another few million requests their way to ensure that the entire thing is covered.
17:13 🔗 JAA Only a few 100k actually.
17:13 🔗 mundus20- Some of the sub forums get closed at 6PM CST
17:13 🔗 mundus20- *EST
17:13 🔗 JAA EDT?
17:15 🔗 JAA DST ends on Sunday in the US, I think, so it should still be EDT.
17:15 🔗 JAA In other words, 22:00 UTC, or a bit less than 5 hours.
17:15 🔗 mundus20- yep
17:15 🔗 mundus20- that
17:15 🔗 mundus20- lol
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17:58 🔗 SmoothWil Hello!
17:58 🔗 JAA (Continuing from #archivebot regarding the Cracked forums)
18:00 🔗 JAA SmoothWil: I don't really have time right now to set anything complicated up which targets the subforums specifically. I will simply bruteforce all ~194k thread IDs.
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18:02 🔗 SmoothWil Gotcha. I thought it could count the subforums as domains, like site.com/viewforum=1 and so on. Thank you.
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18:03 🔗 SmoothWil A friend posted almost as much there as I did before dying suddenly, so it's a personal quest for me to make sure as much of him is saved as possible.
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18:06 🔗 SmoothWil I asked the forum admin for more time and got no response, so I've been stressing about this for about 48 hours
18:06 🔗 SmoothWil Thank you.
18:08 🔗 JAA SmoothWil: Do you know if the thread pagination is always 20 posts per page by default?
18:08 🔗 JAA (I'm asking because I've seen forums where that setting varies per subforum.)
18:14 🔗 SmoothWil yes, it is
18:20 🔗 JAA Looks like someone is trashing sessions on there. I wonder if it's ArchiveBot.
18:20 🔗 JAA (Sessions expire extremely fast, within a few minutes.)
18:21 🔗 SmoothWil is that a bad thing?
18:23 🔗 JAA It's a bit annoying because it means that session IDs are appearing everywhere, so links will be broken on playback in the Wayback Machine.
18:28 🔗 SmoothWil oh no! Is there anyway to sync them manually afterwards? or would running them through a forum profile help? (no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to archiving)?
18:28 🔗 SmoothWil the data is still just as saved, right?
18:40 🔗 JAA Aaand I'm getting 503 "Server overloaded" already.
18:42 🔗 SmoothWil damn it
18:42 🔗 JAA And as suspected, they're returning wrong status codes. Specifically, threads that require a login still return status 200 instead of 401.
18:44 🔗 SmoothWil uh-oh
18:44 🔗 SmoothWil does this mean it's hopeless?
18:45 🔗 JAA It seems that 503 is their way of saying "you're banned, fuck off".
18:45 🔗 JAA I.e. not an actual server overload.
18:46 🔗 JAA Yeah, seems pretty hopeless unless that ban expires quickly.
18:50 🔗 SmoothWil I don't think it is? Are you using a proxy? The forum's been around so long that most of them are banned.
18:54 🔗 JAA No proxy. The ban has expired now. 15 minutes probably.
18:55 🔗 SmoothWil so there's no way to tell archivebot to archive this (http://forums.cracked.com/viewforum.php?f=17) and everything "under" it separately? 'cause it looks as if right now archivebot is caught up in the image-heavy and less-endangered-for-now parts of the forums
18:56 🔗 SmoothWil ah, got word back: 503 error is "Load balance. Too many attempts likely another ddos"
18:57 🔗 JAA With some magic (i.e. complex ignore patterns), it's possible to get close. But there's another problem there, which is that ArchiveBot has a bit of a queue right now, so new jobs won't start anytime soon. Certainly not before the 3-hour deadline.
18:58 🔗 SmoothWil damn.
19:16 🔗 JAA 10 requests per second is already too fast apparently, and that's already too low a rate to grab everything in time. Welp
19:17 🔗 JAA mundus20-, SmoothWil: Will those subforums that get "closed" today become inaccessible or just locked?
19:21 🔗 mundus20- i do not know
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19:23 🔗 SmoothWil closed/deleted, I'm pretty sure
19:23 🔗 SmoothWil let me check
19:24 🔗 SmoothWil oooooh, intriguing! they are NOT
19:24 🔗 SmoothWil or... wait
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19:27 🔗 SmoothWil okay, actual deletion is in Dec./Jan., but they are being hidden today/Nov.
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19:29 🔗 SmoothWil so yeah, invisible without an admin account
19:31 🔗 jut Write and ask for special access?
19:33 🔗 SmoothWil I did; the forum owner's a tool
19:33 🔗 SmoothWil like one of his mods died and he doesn't even care about saving even just those posts
19:50 🔗 JAA Hmm, crap.
19:52 🔗 JAA SmoothWil: Alright then. Do you have a full list of the forums that get closed tonight?
19:52 🔗 SmoothWil Yes!
19:53 🔗 JAA I need the forum IDs, i.e. the "f" parameter on viewforum.php.
19:53 🔗 SmoothWil From most important to least important:
19:54 🔗 SmoothWil http://forums.cracked.com/viewforum.php?f=17
19:54 🔗 SmoothWil http://forums.cracked.com/viewforum.php?f=16
19:55 🔗 SmoothWil http://forums.cracked.com/viewforum.php?f=27
19:55 🔗 SmoothWil http://forums.cracked.com/viewforum.php?f=29
19:56 🔗 SmoothWil http://forums.cracked.com/viewforum.php?f=31
19:56 🔗 SmoothWil http://forums.cracked.com/viewforum.php?f=15
19:56 🔗 SmoothWil http://forums.cracked.com/viewforum.php?f=32
19:57 🔗 SmoothWil http://forums.cracked.com/viewforum.php?f=28
19:57 🔗 SmoothWil http://forums.cracked.com/viewforum.php?f=32
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19:58 🔗 SmoothWil and there's a couple more but they're really small
19:58 🔗 SmoothWil and unimportant
19:58 🔗 SmoothWil the first two are the most important (and largest)
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20:18 🔗 SmoothWil does that help, JAA?
20:18 🔗 JAA SmoothWil: Yeah, thanks. I started an ArchiveBot job for 16 and 17.
20:18 🔗 JAA Not sure how much it'll grab, but it's better than nothing.
20:19 🔗 SmoothWil Thank you SO MUCH
20:19 🔗 JAA I'll start another one for the others now.
20:19 🔗 SmoothWil You have no idea how less-guilty that makes me feel.
20:20 🔗 SmoothWil that I wasn't in-the-know enough to save it all.
20:20 🔗 JAA SmoothWil: Hmm, you listed f=32 twice.
20:22 🔗 SmoothWil let me make sure one isn't supposed to be something else
20:24 🔗 JAA Welp, the ArchiveBot job got banned as well, dammit.
20:24 🔗 SmoothWil 503?
20:24 🔗 JAA Yeah
20:25 🔗 jrwr can you access the site over ipv6 at all?
20:25 🔗 SmoothWil Me?
20:25 🔗 JAA jrwr: There's no AAAA record.
20:25 🔗 jrwr damn
20:29 🔗 SmoothWil oh shit, I still have HTTracker scanning one of the subforums at 1 connection per second. fuck ME
20:30 🔗 SmoothWil If I stopped that I assume that might help?
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20:32 🔗 JAA SmoothWil: Their servers can certainly handle one request per second. Also, as mentioned, the 503s aren't actually server-side issues most likely.
20:32 🔗 JAA Basically, they ban IPs that exceed their rate limits and return a 503 page instead for those while the ban is active.
20:32 🔗 SmoothWil fuuuuuuuuck
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21:31 🔗 godane SketchCow: i'm uploading the Americas Got Talent finale episode
21:32 🔗 godane its incomplete but is woc
21:32 🔗 godane it was the only thing on the tape
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22:22 🔗 godane SketchCow: i may have fixed the rewind problem with one of the tapes
22:33 🔗 godane nevermind
22:33 🔗 godane i can't get a good image of tape anyways
22:34 🔗 godane this is what i mean by no good image: https://imgur.com/a/TqHvU20
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