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01:21 πŸ”— godane so looks like i have 475k items this year
01:22 πŸ”— godane this is a bigger upload year then 2016 which was my biggest upload year by item count
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01:58 πŸ”— godane SketchCow: i'm going to see about updating the SBS 8 NEWS collection
01:58 πŸ”— godane i'm just going to be grabbing the mp4 files cause i just want to get it done
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08:03 πŸ”— Flashfire https://m.dw.com/en/armenias-parliament-dissolved-forcing-december-election/a-46126035
08:03 πŸ”— Flashfire Should we do something about this?
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11:10 πŸ”— PurpleSym SketchCow: https://archive.org/details/chromebot-2018-11-02-b514ee Item preview of new uploads now contains five randomly selected screenshots.
12:02 πŸ”— betamax So, back on the topic of the US midterms, my first scrape has found:
12:02 πŸ”— betamax ~2800 twitter accounts (currently running snscrape to get list of URLs to stick in archivebot)
12:03 πŸ”— betamax ~5000 facebook accounts (will do the same as with the twitter accounts)
12:03 πŸ”— betamax ~6500 campaign websites
12:03 πŸ”— kiska I would recommend splitting them into batches
12:04 πŸ”— betamax these were scraped from Vote411.org, which indicates ~26,000 candidates
12:04 πŸ”— JAA betamax mentioned 220k tweets from 250 accounts in -ot, so yeah, definitely do batches.
12:04 πŸ”— betamax 220k tweets is 10% of the accounts so far... :)
12:05 πŸ”— JAA Yeah, ~2.5M tweets total if the number of tweets per account is representative.
12:05 πŸ”— PurpleSym betamax: I’m offering to run a private chromebot grab for Twitter and Facebook on all of these accounts.
12:06 πŸ”— betamax PurpleSym: that is probably a good idea
12:06 πŸ”— betamax I shall stick the lists of URLs somewhere once the grab completes
12:06 πŸ”— betamax the real issue though is the campaign sites
12:07 πŸ”— PurpleSym Yeah, just ping me when you’re ready.
12:07 πŸ”— PurpleSym Are private grab-site/wpull grabs an option for these?
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12:07 πŸ”— betamax ideally they'd end up in the wayback, would a private grab allow this?
12:08 πŸ”— kiska I don't think so
12:08 πŸ”— kiska Unless it gets uploaded by an approved account
12:08 πŸ”— kiska Which the AB one is, or PurppleSym's one
12:08 πŸ”— kiska PurpleSym's*
12:09 πŸ”— kiska kiskaAus AB pipeline IBM stats http://prntscr.com/ldixvt
12:09 πŸ”— PurpleSym Yep, I guess I could upload them. But we’ll have to split up the 6500 sites to get some parallelism.
12:09 πŸ”— betamax yes
12:09 πŸ”— kiska So I would recommend just putting them on to AB and see what happens
12:10 πŸ”— betamax It's also a pain that out of the ~26,000 candidates listed on Vote411, only a few thousand have external web links
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12:11 πŸ”— betamax I fail to believe that 90% of the candidates don't have a twitter account
12:11 πŸ”— betamax anyone think of other websites to scrape to get a more representitive list of social media / websites of candidates?
12:11 πŸ”— JAA betamax: Could it be worth trying to match names or IDs against Wikidata?
12:12 πŸ”— kiska You could try and see if they use hash tags to represent the election. ie Australia uses #auspol
12:12 πŸ”— JAA I don't know how complete Wikidata is, but VoynichCr's bot seems to be doing pretty well.
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12:14 πŸ”— betamax hmm, just tried searching wikidata for a random candidate that *has* a twitter/facebook/website listed on Vote411, (Dana Nessel) and nothing came up
12:15 πŸ”— jut Isn't VoynichCr a wizzard in wikidata?
12:17 πŸ”— betamax I welcome any and all wizards!
12:18 πŸ”— betamax unfortunately the way vote411 was scraped means that I only have lists of URLs, and don't know the names of candidates that I got, or the names of candidates where I'm missing data on
12:21 πŸ”— VoynichCr wikidata is a good source, but it isnt complete
12:23 πŸ”— VoynichCr if the person isnt notable for wikipedia, or he has an article but it is not famous, wikidata entries can suck
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13:44 πŸ”— ColdIce Hello, so my grab-site stopped due low disk space. I was stupid enough not run the scrip which check for low disk space... anyhow, can I resume it?
13:45 πŸ”— JAA ColdIce: I don't think grab-site supports resuming grabs. https://github.com/ludios/grab-site/issues/58 But maybe ivan can tell you more.
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15:39 πŸ”— ivan sometimes I resume a crawl poorly by feeding the $(gs-dump-urls wpull.db todo) list into a new --1 crawl
16:16 πŸ”— ColdIce ivan, tell me more. Total noob here
16:17 πŸ”— ivan cd DIR (with the crawl)
16:17 πŸ”— ivan gs-dump-urls wpull.db todo > ../.website-continued
16:17 πŸ”— ivan grab-site --1 -i .website-continued
16:17 πŸ”— ivan a non-recursive crawl of the URLs already discovered
16:17 πŸ”— ivan if that's not good enough just crawl it again, sorry :(
16:17 πŸ”— ColdIce how about ignores and offsite links? Pass args to grab-site again?
16:18 πŸ”— ivan you can copy some of the control files from the old dir
16:18 πŸ”— ivan offsite links are not followed with --1 anyway
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17:00 πŸ”— anarcat so
17:01 πŸ”— anarcat ivan / JAA : i've at least created https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/wpull/pull/402 so we can get tests back on track
17:01 πŸ”— anarcat err wtf
17:01 πŸ”— anarcat that was deleted??
17:02 πŸ”— JAA anarcat: So yeah, the plan is to get my PR merged, then sort out the remaining failures caused by FalconK's changes between 2.0.1 and 2.0.3.
17:02 πŸ”— anarcat what the f
17:02 πŸ”— anarcat i created PR #402, but now it's gone
17:02 πŸ”— anarcat and i can't recreate it
17:02 πŸ”— JAA And then we need to take a hard look at how wpull uses asyncio and why it's broken.
17:02 πŸ”— anarcat wtf is wrong with github
17:02 πŸ”— JAA Just GitHub being GitHub: https://status.github.com/messages
17:03 πŸ”— JAA I've said before that I'd prefer a self-hosted GitLab/Gitea/whatever instance, but oh well.
17:03 πŸ”— anarcat wow, and now it's back https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/wpull/pull/402
17:03 πŸ”— anarcat and it's gone
17:03 πŸ”— anarcat sigh
17:03 πŸ”— anarcat anyways
17:04 πŸ”— anarcat that should normally kick into https://travis-ci.org/ArchiveTeam/wpull/pull_requests eventually
17:04 πŸ”— anarcat JAA: i'd love to see your PR merged, but there's already a bunch of work to get it up to pep8 and all that stuff
17:04 πŸ”— anarcat ivan made a bunch of comments on it
17:05 πŸ”— JAA Yeah, I know. Hope to get to that soon.
17:05 πŸ”— anarcat okay
17:05 πŸ”— anarcat well for sure it would be nice to fix tests first, so maybe we can concentrate on that
17:07 πŸ”— anarcat i'll do that in my branch, worst case you just need to remerge with master - but because i cherry-picked your commits, that should be a noop
17:07 πŸ”— anarcat i mean assuming my stuff gets merged in the first place :p
17:07 πŸ”— JAA Assuming we ever get to see your PR. :-P
17:08 πŸ”— anarcat hehe
17:08 πŸ”— JAA Oh, there it is. I fixed the html5lib thing on my branch/PR already.
17:08 πŸ”— anarcat well it's there now
17:08 πŸ”— anarcat yeah i know, i just cherry-picked that *one* commit
17:08 πŸ”— JAA Ah right
17:08 πŸ”— anarcat then we could add that *one* magic commit that fixes the asyncio stuff
17:08 πŸ”— anarcat (or just mark the youtubedl tests as xfail so we can get the test suite green again)
17:09 πŸ”— anarcat because it's better to have a test suite fake green than red
17:09 πŸ”— JAA [citation needed]
17:09 πŸ”— * anarcat shrugs
17:09 πŸ”— anarcat there are other PRs in there, which fix other unrelated things
17:10 πŸ”— anarcat if they are marked as red, how do we know they don't introduce new regressions?
17:10 πŸ”— anarcat if the test suite would be green with known failures, then we still know about those failures but at least don't introduce *other* regressions
17:10 πŸ”— anarcat anyways
17:10 πŸ”— anarcat i need to step out, we'll see how travis works that out
17:12 πŸ”— JAA Well, we'd need to look at the test results for the failures until we fix it properly. Anyway, I intend to revert the removal of CONNECT support (which is what broke youtube-dl), which is one of the test failures. And the other failures are related to the removal of FrozenDict (a performance hog), so they should also be easy enough to fix.
17:13 πŸ”— JAA But yeah, I'll try to get my PR ready for merging this weekend hopefully, and that should bring us a good step forward.
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19:24 πŸ”— anarcat JAA: if you can point to those commits, i can add that to the branch and we can start by making travis green
19:24 πŸ”— anarcat or i can dig for those myself as well
19:29 πŸ”— JAA anarcat: git log v2.0.1..master should be useful.
19:29 πŸ”— JAA I don't have the commit IDs handy right now.
19:30 πŸ”— * anarcat nods
19:30 πŸ”— anarcat i think it's simply 5613807
19:31 πŸ”— anarcat https://travis-ci.org/ArchiveTeam/wpull/jobs/449990630
19:33 πŸ”— anarcat one failure already :/
19:34 πŸ”— anarcat sigh
19:34 πŸ”— anarcat FAILED (SKIP=11, errors=1, failures=4)
19:43 πŸ”— anarcat i tried to revert two more commits, no go either
19:44 πŸ”— anarcat i need to move on, unfortunately
19:45 πŸ”— anarcat assert host == 'localhost'
19:49 πŸ”— JAA anarcat: The CONNECT removal is part of a commit also having some other changes, so that needs to be reverted manually/partially.
19:54 πŸ”— anarcat figures
19:54 πŸ”— anarcat i just blindly reverted it
19:56 πŸ”— anarcat i dunno, actually... 5613807 is pretty much self-contained: it's just CONNECT and FrozenDict removal, AFAICT
20:12 πŸ”— anarcat sigh.. tests fail even on 2.0.1 here
20:16 πŸ”— anarcat i'm trying to bisect when the test suite was ever working, and i'm down to 1.2.3 now
20:18 πŸ”— JAA anarcat: Well yes, but I don't think we want to revert the FrozenDict removal since it did provide a sizeable speedup.
20:18 πŸ”— anarcat ah, i misunderstood you there
20:19 πŸ”— anarcat well even if we keep that, the tests fail
20:19 πŸ”— anarcat the test suite seems a little brittle
20:19 πŸ”— anarcat i wonder if it's because i'm on python 3.6
20:20 πŸ”— JAA anarcat: 2.0.1 passed: https://travis-ci.org/ArchiveTeam/wpull/builds/139339474
20:20 πŸ”— anarcat not here
20:21 πŸ”— anarcat i'll try again in 3.5
20:48 πŸ”— anarcat nope
20:48 πŸ”— anarcat kinda hard to make this thing work at all... crashing on phantomjs because it can't open DISPLAY
20:51 πŸ”— anarcat i can reproduce the same test failures as the ones i get in the current travis pipeline on debian stretch with python 3.5
20:51 πŸ”— anarcat in 2.0.1
20:52 πŸ”— anarcat https://ptpb.pw/E-OP
20:53 πŸ”— anarcat so i would guess this is not a regression introduced by falconkirtaran - we might have something else here, maybe regarding some dependenceis
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23:28 πŸ”— JAA anarcat: That does seem like something related to your PhantomJS installation. I remember that we've had issues with the package from the Debian and Ubuntu repos before. That's why the installation instructions for ArchiveBot pipelines say to download the binary from Bitbucket instead.
23:29 πŸ”— JAA See here: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=817277
23:30 πŸ”— JAA It has something to do with how Qt and WebKit are built.
23:31 πŸ”— JAA In the long term, we should get rid of PhantomJS entirely since it's no longer maintained. I don't know if we should simply drop it entirely or somehow find an alternative though.
23:50 πŸ”— anarcat ggarh
23:51 πŸ”— JAA Yeah. Avoid PhantomJS like the plague.
23:51 πŸ”— anarcat dropping it seems like a good first step if (a) it doesn't work and (b) it breaks the test suite
23:52 πŸ”— JAA The PhantomJS binary from the maintainer's Bitbucket repository works fine. That's what's used on Travis as well, I believe.
23:53 πŸ”— JAA Ah no, Travis has PhantomJS installed otherwise, and I guess that's a version which works headlessly then.
23:56 πŸ”— anarcat how? i don't see where it's installed in travis-ci.yml
23:57 πŸ”— anarcat i guess it's part of the base image...
23:57 πŸ”— JAA Yeah, it's installed on the system level at Travis: https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/gui-and-headless-browsers/#using-phantomjs
23:58 πŸ”— JAA And they explicitly mention that it's actually headless and that xvfb is not needed.
23:59 πŸ”— anarcat https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=817277

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