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[00:32] well it was an unused url i have certificates for [00:33] *** Jusque has joined #archiveteam-bs [00:33] i am still very much in panic mode [00:33] because the way i was blocked [00:35] if somebody could talk with me about his experience pissing of some hoster and what happened it might help me sleep [00:35] will i end in prison? [00:35] I scammed nokia out of over $1000 and I sleep fine [00:35] You bruteforced a website [00:35] dont be scared [00:36] the way they blocked me spockedd me out [00:38] almost all servers with an name larger than koumpilaw.com ignored me suddenly the ones smalles were fine [00:38] *** Ravenloft has joined #archiveteam-bs [00:38] Were you using a home IP? [00:38] nope Hetzner [00:38] Then chill [00:38] and a physical machine [00:39] happens all the time [00:39] with an reverse dns wich resolves to my last name [00:39] you'll be okay [00:39] xn--schg-noa.de is my last name hehe [00:39] lol [00:39] You will be fine [00:39] it resolves to schäg(.de) [00:39] Yeah, don't worry about it. [00:39] Great wheew [00:44] i also made a graph of prograss1 1/2 hours in [00:45] http://i.imgur.com/auhQ5GD.png [00:49] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [00:50] nice linear graph of 500 discovered endangered pages per minute then little bump because i ran s second download with 1000 parallel connections, i think that is when they cared. 13 minutes later flatliner. The descreasing in progress is an artefact of my counting + parrallel downloading [00:55] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [00:58] *** Ryz has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92-rdmsoft [XULRunner 35.0.1/20150122214805]) [01:01] *** Pixi has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [01:04] *** fredgido has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [01:04] *** Odd0002_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [01:07] *** Pixi has joined #archiveteam-bs [01:08] *** Dimtree has joined #archiveteam-bs [01:08] *** fredgido has joined #archiveteam-bs [01:10] *** Fusl_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 600 seconds) [01:10] *** Fusl_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [01:11] Flashfire, how did you learn that they did verify cards back then [01:11] *** Odd0002 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 600 seconds) [01:11] *** Odd0002_ is now known as Odd0002 [01:11] Emails saying that my payments were overdue when I occasionally checked the dumped emails [01:15] *** RedType has joined #archiveteam-bs [01:15] i can ifewith this detail i can infer the story [01:16] *** fredgido has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [01:16] *** sknebel has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [01:16] *** sknebel has joined #archiveteam-bs [01:17] Flashfire, that story kinda makes me sad. What will be left to hack for our childreen? 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[01:52] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [01:57] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [02:03] JAA tomorow morning will upload my last contribution to this project and be off for a while .. i did spend way to much time on this this week. [02:05] you are a nice crowd [02:05] twoTBHetz: Nice. Can you write up a summary of what you've done and how far you got so far? There has been discussion about this in different channels, revised URL lists, etc... [02:05] mhh yes when somebody else gets it in to the wiki. [02:07] the zip i posted contains all the logs but i understand why you dono want to parse that. [02:08] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [02:08] JAA is there a fixed form/template or do you just want some rambling summary [02:09] twoTBHetz: Rambling is fine as long as it's more or less coherent. :-) [02:10] is LISP (programming lanugage) seen as coherent here [02:10] ;) [02:12] Coherent and unreadable ;-))))) [02:13] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [02:16] you are gonne have some fun [02:21] *** Martle_ is now known as Martle [02:22] JAA submission via transfer.sh? [02:26] twoTBHetz: Sure, whatever you prefer. [02:32] betamax: I wrote a scraper for https://vote-usa.org/forresearch.aspx to try and get more midterm stuff. The site seems like a goldmine, it's well structured and it has social media and website links for candidates in all US states across multiple elections, sometimes down to the county level. [02:33] Pretty big historical archive too, it seems to go back to 2004. [02:33] Currently I'm snscraping a whole bunch of twitters. I'll update the wiki about all this at some point. 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[05:47] Defy Media has: http://www.break.com/ - http://www.mademan.com/ - http://addictinggames.com/ - http://www.shockwave.com - there's also the website itself http://defymedia.com/ [05:50] I'm going to get started on their YouTube presence. 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[06:16] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [06:16] Yeah, that sounds archive-worthy, I don't run the bot responsible for making the lists though~ [06:17] Speaking of bot stuff, I wanna do something like...products that are discontinued or something [06:18] Well not 'do something', more like a bot suggestion [06:22] !archive http://www.irene-hilda.com/ --explain "https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Deaths_in_2015" [06:22] Whoops [06:28] Yeah, that'd be cool [06:28] WHo runs the bot anyway... [06:28] Voynichcr [06:33] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [06:36] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [06:48] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [06:50] Ryz: To curate a game needs a metadata text file, screenshot of the game in action and a logo for the game, plus the game and any files it needs [06:52] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [06:55] *** c4rc4s has joined #archiveteam-bs [06:55] *** zyphlar has joined #archiveteam-bs [06:56] *** Petri152 has joined #archiveteam-bs [06:56] *** JAA has joined #archiveteam-bs [06:56] *** swebb sets mode: +o JAA [06:56] *** bakJAA sets mode: +o JAA [06:56] Hmm, how often do games get submitted per day through curation? [06:58] 14 just today [06:58] http://bluemaxima.org/flashpoint/datahub/Game_Master_List [06:58] *** svchfoo1 has joined #archiveteam-bs [06:59] *** svchfoo3 sets mode: +o svchfoo1 [07:00] Currently 8,298 games submitted [07:00] Surely there must be a huge backlog of untested games [07:00] *** jspiros has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:04] I have a backlog of seemingly countless links to game portals that have Adobe Flash games, just sitting there for 2-3 years and occasionally cleaned up to remove dud ones [07:09] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [07:10] Pour a bottle for the countlesss Adobe Flash and Shockwave game portals that have disappeared: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Game_portal&oldid=43742233 [07:10] There's more checking on the revision history [07:12] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:15] *** zyphlar has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [07:16] *** zyphlar has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:16] [20:00:12] Surely there must be a huge backlog of untested games [07:16] certainly [07:18] Ryz: It's because of that why we have multiple requested channels and are very much welcome to anyone who could help [07:19] Is it in a Discord server I recall? [07:25] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [07:28] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:31] Oh! eientei95 - if there's one Adobe Flash game that needs to be archived, it's Acno Energizer, not only because it's a Boulder Dash-like game in some aspect, but because of tons and tons of online levels that need to be mined out [07:31] Ryz: Link plz [07:31] http://www.acno.tv/acno/ [07:31] Also yeah, online level mining is something we do as well [07:31] If Happy Wheels can be archived with those countless online usermade levels, this one should too [07:32] There was supposed to be a sequel, checking their forum a long time ago, but it never surfaced to release [07:34] Ryz: https://discord.gg/MXsDGR [07:36] The one thing I hated about Acno's Energizer, which gets aggravating overtime, is how the way selecting usermade levels functions [08:05] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [08:09] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [08:40] *** VADemon has joined #archiveteam-bs [08:40] *** VADemon_ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [08:41] *** dxrt_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [08:41] *** dxrt sets mode: +o dxrt_ [09:15] eientei95: Ryz: i will add that TV disestablished categires in the next run [09:15] Cool, thanks [09:16] VoynichCr: That's one fo a few subcategories of the category linked to from the Archiveteam wiki page [09:19] currently bot checked recursively 2 levels from here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:2018_disestablishments [09:20] i will put 4 levels now [09:21] anyway if articles haven't an official URL, bot won't add anything to table [09:23] *** schbirid has joined #archiveteam-bs [09:26] Nice [09:31] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [09:32] *** Mateon1 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 633 seconds) [09:32] *** Mateon1 has joined #archiveteam-bs [09:33] *** Mateon1 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [09:34] *** Mateon1 has joined #archiveteam-bs [09:36] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [09:44] That mixology.pw link from that site... it only redirects you if the User Agent doesn't contain 'Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/53736 (KHTML' [09:45] If you replace the `(X11; Linux x86_64)` part with `(Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.9)` it gives you redirecting JS code [09:46] *** BlueMax has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [09:50] betamax: Facebook is done and uploaded: https://archive.org/details/chromebot-us-midterms-2018-facebook [09:54] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [09:59] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [10:11] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [10:16] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [11:07] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [11:10] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [11:19] PurpleSym: Were you planning on doing chromebot for all the 2018 midterm social media, or just the ones betamax initially sent? [11:25] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [11:27] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [11:33] *** twoTBHetz has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [11:39] *** Ryz has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92-rdmsoft [XULRunner 35.0.1/20150122214805]) [11:45] jodizzle: I don’t have anything besides betamax’s lists. What is missing from them? [13:42] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [13:46] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [13:51] *** hdch has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:23] *** VerifiedJ has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:55] *** alex__ has joined #archiveteam-bs [15:07] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [15:13] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [15:27] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [15:29] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:03] *** Pixi has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:24] *** Pixi has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:45] so i got some good news [16:46] good news is i don't think virtualbox slowing down the scans [16:46] i think its vuescan over time [16:46] even closing does nothing [16:47] turning scanner on and off does nothing [16:47] removing usb and power plug does nothing [16:48] i have seen book explore from plustek does one scan at full speed [16:49] my problem is book explore is not saving it and i don't see a simple scan button in that app [16:52] *** Mateon1 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [16:52] *** Mateon1 has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:11] *** wp494 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [17:11] *** wp494 has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:19] *** godane has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [17:28] *** godane has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:43] PurpleSym: I sent along some more lists of my own, the result of my own attempts at crawling vote411, that I deduped from betamax's lists. [17:44] I think betamax stuffed my lists in archivebot, but I could give them to you if you want to chromebot them. [17:45] I also have some more lists that I'm gonna drop soon that come from the crawling of a different site (those are probably going to be big, the site was very big and well-structured). [17:50] *** branden has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:54] ivan: Can you please wrap up your grab site instance on kiskaAus please? I want to nuke the entire machine, I think my RAID array is failing [17:55] kiska: can I have 24 hours or do you prefer I finish right now [17:55] You have until AB finishes [17:56] how long is that? :-) [17:56] Which I think will be 2-3 weeks away [17:56] haha ok [17:56] fanfiction.net has 52m items remaining [18:03] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [18:07] jodizzle: I’d like to get SketchCow’s approval first before grabbing more stuff. The current grabs are already quite big (91G for Facebook, 140G+ for Twitter). [18:08] *** icedice has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:08] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:09] ivan: You can wrap it up in 24 hrs or you can wrap it up as soon as the last job finishes on AB [18:10] alright [18:16] PurpleSym: Sounds good. [18:17] ivan: I am just giving advanced notice, I'll alert you when I expect that there'll be 2-3 days remaining on AB, but yeah you can continue using the pipe if you want to [18:18] I would recommend smaller lists in case I don't give such notice ie I forget [18:24] *** Ryz has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:28] thanks. yeah, I use small lists [18:34] *** icedice has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [18:40] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [18:45] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:47] Found on 2018 November 05, from: https://old.reddit.com/r/opendirectories/comments/9tunlr/big_ol_pile_of_music_various_artists/ - search "/wp-content/uploads/" as another way to find open directories [19:02] *** icedice has joined #archiveteam-bs [19:07] DISCORD ARCHIVAL STRATEGIES?? [19:19] You need an account there that is invited to the specific Discord servers you want to archive if you want to do it with ArchiveBot [19:20] archivebot can archive discord servers? [19:21] No [19:22] It might not be impossible though [19:22] But that's for someone else to figure out [19:22] *** schbirid2 has joined #archiveteam-bs [19:23] *** schbirid has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [19:23] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [19:23] Almost certainly impossible with the current version of ArchiveBot at least. [19:23] I thought you guys were trying to figure out how to make discordapp.com compatible with ArchiveBot [19:23] It requires logging in, right? [19:24] Yup [19:24] And they have 2FA [19:24] And IP logging for logins [19:25] So the IP addresses have to be verified by the user [19:27] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [19:39] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [19:39] Someone playing a mobile game called "The Elder Scrolls Travels: Stormhold" on stream - https://youtu.be/VoozfLkGncs?t=575 [19:40] ...Twas on a browsing spree of looking YouTube videos involving J2ME games [19:44] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [19:46] *** uzerus has joined #archiveteam-bs [20:20] I'm looking for a solution that's an independent script [20:23] Sanqui: There is an open source Discord client called BetterDiscord that allows users to write and run their own plugins [20:23] https://github.com/JsSucks/BetterDiscordApp [20:23] Maybe something could be done with that? [20:26] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [20:27] There seems to also be some stuff here: https://github.com/search?q=archive+Discord [20:30] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [20:32] https://github.com/tsudoko/pullcord seems to be the most comprehensive and reasonable [20:32] (ie not a browser plugin or something with a gui) [20:32] PurpleSym: What are these [20:33] moral question: can logs from discords with public invite links be posted publicly on the internet [20:33] (+noindex) [20:38] SketchCow: We’re archiving social media accounts of candidates in the 2018 US midterm election. [20:39] betamax put together a list of 971 Twitter and 2257 Facebook accounts which I am running through a local chromebot instance. [20:40] jodizzle is now offering lists with more accounts. [20:40] Sanqui: I wrote that, if something breaks it's my fault [20:40] you can ping me if you don't understand something etc [20:41] moufu: confidence just grew by 100% [20:42] the code is pretty ugly but it's been working well for me [20:42] I just need to learn to use go ;D [20:42] Yeah, go for it [20:42] so just quick question, no incremental mode I'm guessing [20:43] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [20:43] it's incremental by design if we mean the same thing [20:44] you can run it after the initial fetch to get new history entries [20:44] oh, awesome [20:48] moufu: i'm a go illiterate and `go install` has failed me [20:48] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [20:50] `go get github.com/tsudoko/pullcord/...` works here [20:54] moufu: https://pastebin.com/raw/q4EgZJ9a [20:56] wait [20:56] if I appended the ..., it exits with no output, but I still get no `pullcord` [20:57] it should be in $GOPATH/bin [20:57] you can append that to your $PATH [20:58] okay, got it [20:58] any option to pass password by env variable? [20:59] `2018/11/11 21:59:24 login failed:account has 2FA enabled` [20:59] damn [21:01] no such thing is implemented, you could do -pass $(cat $file_with_password) I guess, but that would still make your password visible in the process list [21:01] not a big worry [21:01] yeah I'm not sure if there's a way around that, you could make a secondary account without 2fa to use for fetching [21:01] you could try logging in with the token directly, but I don't know if it'd change anything [21:02] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [21:04] moufu: no possibility to exclude files/attachments? [21:05] *** C4K3 has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [21:06] nope [21:06] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [21:07] consider it a feature request, then ;) [21:08] in general, it would be cool to have a "light mode", which is only textual data, and be able to download files for it later [21:09] seems like a good idea, I'll think about it [21:10] not sure how easy it would be with the current state of the code, I haven't touched it in a while [21:10] *** schbirid2 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [21:10] *** C4K3 has joined #archiveteam-bs [21:11] thanks. no worries. it's cool to have something that's comprehensive and easy to run. [21:12] moufu: just one last query; have you run this on huge servers without getting banned? [21:14] I haven't tried it on servers larger than a few hundred members [21:15] alright, cheers [21:26] *** uzerus has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [21:36] *** BlueMax has joined #archiveteam-bs [21:37] we're missing an AT forum or mailing list [21:37] for long-form discussions [21:38] on topics such as "morality of publishing discord logs" [21:42] i think if it were a really big server it'd probably be fine, but maybe with smaller public servers it might be iffy [21:43] on irc the implicit agreement is that you don't publish logs, but the privacy story is different on discord [21:43] where everybody who joins gains access to years of logs [21:55] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [21:58] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [22:07] Sanqui: i thought you could set up a discord channel so nobody sees logs before the time they joined? [22:07] or am i wrong about that [22:08] I admin several Discords and have never seen that option [22:08] Ah, the "Read Message History" permission, I suppose [22:09] you can set it so they can't see the channel history at all, and when you have it set to that people can see messages that are sent since the first time they viewed the channel, though it clears out again once you close discord [22:09] yeah that [22:09] Sounds inconvenient enough that nobody will use it [22:10] But it it were, say, the past week of history, I believe people would be more keen to set it [22:10] i think i've seen it used maybe once [22:14] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [22:19] https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Discord [22:19] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [22:24] *** alex__ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [22:31] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [22:36] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [22:52] *** alex__ has joined #archiveteam-bs [22:53] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [22:57] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:00] *** arbin has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [23:01] *** arbin has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:05] Sanqui: you probably know that already, but collecting user data such as messages without their consent is against the discord tos [23:05] might be worth mentioning on the wiki page [23:06] definitely worth it [23:06] but see also: robots.txt [23:06] loltos [23:08] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [23:09] I just don't want people complaining they got banned because they didn't know [23:09] can you find it specifically in the tos? [23:09] https://discordapp.com/terms [23:09] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [23:09] i only found "develop, distribute, or publicly inform other members of "auto" software programs, "macro" software programs or other "cheat utility" software program or applications in violation of the applicable license agreements;" [23:09] which is vague as hell [23:10] (iii) use data mining, robots, spiders, or similar data gathering and extraction tools on the Service [23:10] thanks [23:12] "violate the contractual, personal, ... (including rights of privacy or publicity)" might be relevant too [23:12] I'm not a lawyer though etc [23:12] we're not lawyers, we're renegades [23:14] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:15] *** uzerus has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:16] *** Martle_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:16] there's https://discordapp.com/developers/docs/legal too (2.4 End User Data) [23:17] man, that's scary stuff [23:18] This kind of shit is the reason why I don't use such services. [23:18] *** Martle has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [23:21] then again, websites have "don't archive" in their tos too and we don't give a shit, why should discord get special treatment [23:21] *** Martle_ is now known as Martle [23:23] *** Martle_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:26] *** Martle has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [23:27] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [23:28] *** Martle_ has quit IRC (Client Quit) [23:32] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:45] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [23:50] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:55] *** Stilett0 has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:58] *** Stiletto has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [23:59] *** C4K3 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)