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00:19 🔗 Ryz In regards to the amount of text in the descriptions in https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Disestablishments_in_2015 - is there a way to make the font size smaller?
00:20 🔗 Ryz Also, the list seems to be busted, referring to the Joystiq entry that somehow has 8 entries within it?
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01:31 🔗 icedice Sanqui: I think even smaller Discords are ok if they're engaged in illegal acts that are legal to archive
01:31 🔗 icedice Say extremist Discord servers
01:32 🔗 icedice I assume those exist, at least
01:33 🔗 icedice * ok to archive
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02:35 🔗 SketchCow Archive
02:35 🔗 SketchCow Every
02:35 🔗 SketchCow Discord
02:35 🔗 SketchCow You
02:35 🔗 SketchCow Are
02:35 🔗 SketchCow Allowed
02:35 🔗 SketchCow On
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02:38 🔗 Martle_ SketchCow: What tool do you recommend for archiving Discord servers?
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02:43 🔗 anarcat Martle: https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Discord
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02:43 🔗 Martle anarcat: Should have known, thanks!
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03:16 🔗 ivan` is Discord about to end its incredible adventure?
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03:16 🔗 hdch nah
03:51 🔗 SketchCow I actually don't know
03:51 🔗 SketchCow Discord is NOT
03:51 🔗 SketchCow But it is definitely culture and things worth saving
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07:44 🔗 Ryz Here's a noteworthy link that has to do with Flicker, there's Flicker Hive Mind, it's "a data mining tool for the Flickr database of photography" - https://hiveminer.com/Tags/mosaic%2Cnuggets
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10:51 🔗 VoynichCr what is the best way to upload image albums to IA?
10:51 🔗 VoynichCr if you upload a zip or directory into an item, it generates a slideshow?
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11:14 🔗 VoynichCr is there any documentation on how items in image collection are rendered?
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11:16 🔗 eientei95 VoynichCr: Image albums? Probably as a zip
11:16 🔗 eientei95 I know if you name a zip <something>_images.zip it makes them into a book
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11:17 🔗 VoynichCr eientei95: thanks for the info
11:18 🔗 Sanqui ADD is getting distracted by archiving discord servers when everything else (irl) is on fire
11:18 🔗 Sanqui https://etc.sanqui.net/discord_stats/
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12:23 🔗 eientei95 Sanqui: Why is pret listed twice
12:23 🔗 Sanqui eientei95: because it moved
12:23 🔗 eientei95 ... huh
12:24 🔗 Sanqui the original was abandoned
12:39 🔗 Sanqui everybody is moving to discord
12:39 🔗 Sanqui if you visit band forums, they're dead, and somebody stops by and makes a thread "btw we've all been on discord for the past year, join us"
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14:37 🔗 Sanqui https://screen.sanqui.net/2018-11-12T15:36:55-Selection.png
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15:48 🔗 uzerus thanks JAA for adding info :) im now calculating for blogspot.com . However there is no way to get complete list, it's always better than enumeration.
15:50 🔗 uzerus just waiting for rapid7 response about account validation, that i can download more archives and compare results. Archives are one per month, and every A DNS record archive is size of 15GB. So it will take some time.
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15:52 🔗 uzerus in the result we have more reasons to start blog warrior project.
15:52 🔗 uzerus just my 5 pens
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16:34 🔗 Sanqui moufu_: is it just me, or does pullcord essentially not log message timestamps?
16:34 🔗 Sanqui the timestamps are of fetch time, not contemporary. I can see edit times however only a fraction of messages get edited
16:38 🔗 moufu_ Sanqui: message timestamps are in the IDs afaik
16:38 🔗 moufu_ https://discordapp.com/developers/docs/reference#snowflakes
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16:39 🔗 Sanqui oh, I see... dumb owl. thanks
16:40 🔗 Sanqui moufu_: in any case, i opened some issues, you probably saw them. they all abort the scrape
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16:42 🔗 moufu_ yeah, fixed one already
16:42 🔗 moufu_ right now I'm handling errors by just restarting pullcord when something bad happens, but I agree it's not ideal because you can't even set up retrying externally since there's no difference between fatal and retry-able errors
16:43 🔗 moufu_ the #⃣ one looks like an issue with the discord lib I'm using
16:43 🔗 Sanqui however some of these issues block further scrape of the guild
16:44 🔗 moufu_ well the idea was to assume all errors are either something temporary (== can retry later) or a bug in pullcord
16:44 🔗 Sanqui one is literally a discord problem, where they point to a file that's 404
16:45 🔗 Sanqui on their cdn
16:45 🔗 moufu_ yeah fixed that one
16:45 🔗 Sanqui not much you can do about that
16:45 🔗 Sanqui missing access are IMO channels you don't have permission to read
16:45 🔗 Sanqui but if there are newer channels which you do, pullcord won't reach them, I'm assuming
16:46 🔗 moufu_ it should, I was just lazy and added them all to -C instead of ignoring missing access errors
16:47 🔗 Sanqui oh, yeah, I guess that'd do it
16:47 🔗 Sanqui but it's too manual :p
16:47 🔗 moufu_ yeah it's kinda annoying to do
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17:34 🔗 moufu_ Sanqui: what do the bars on your stats page mean?
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17:35 🔗 Sanqui moufu_: first bar is channels+members, second bar is total size of text data
17:35 🔗 Sanqui just a quick visualization of size/volume
17:41 🔗 Sanqui but yeah most of my scrapes terminate on 50001 now and I can't be bothered to workaround that haha
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17:41 🔗 Sanqui (no pressure! :D)
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18:28 🔗 uzerus https://transfer.sh/JOpU1/blogspot.com-2018-10-26-fdns.tar.gz
18:28 🔗 kiska Here is mine: https://transfer.sh/xPKBt/blogspot-any-data
18:28 🔗 uzerus can some1 add it to AT wiki? it's a list of subdomains, 1,1mln
18:29 🔗 uzerus kiska: how much subdomains? :S
18:29 🔗 uzerus :D*
18:29 🔗 kiska wc -l says "1106014"
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18:29 🔗 uzerus 1,104 mln :/
18:30 🔗 uzerus im waiting for response from rapid7, account confirmation
18:30 🔗 kiska thats cause my data set is "2018-11-02-1541117143-fdns_any.json.gz"
18:30 🔗 uzerus so i can get historical data
18:30 🔗 uzerus i use the A record, not any
18:31 🔗 uzerus it avoids me to get 2 domains in one line from CNAME record
18:31 🔗 uzerus google.comfacebook.com looks like :/
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18:33 🔗 kiska I could get my data from another source namely the dns root servers
18:33 🔗 kiska But I can't share that, cause there is a thing called NDA"s
18:33 🔗 kiska NDA's*
18:34 🔗 uzerus yeah
18:34 🔗 uzerus i want to get more archives from rapid7 to get more domains :/
18:35 🔗 uzerus i think there can be 10x more than we have
18:36 🔗 kiska Here is the dataset I have access to https://www.impactcybertrust.org/dataset_view?idDataset=884
18:36 🔗 kiska However I can't share that...
18:36 🔗 uzerus im wondering about archiving copy of old archives, but... i don't have money for bigger VPS, im on 5Mbps connection
18:37 🔗 uzerus wow
18:37 🔗 uzerus kiska: you are god!
18:38 🔗 uzerus for this time i don't even have HDD to download it xD
18:38 🔗 kiska Neither do I
18:39 🔗 kiska I have signed a "Researcher Memorandum of Agreement" so I can't share it :(
18:40 🔗 uzerus i want to buy 3x 2TB HDD for home server, you know, ZFS, gentoo, XEN ... windows gaming in DOMu...
18:41 🔗 uzerus but raidz1 with 3 disks give me read speed x2.5 write speed ~x1.3 and the space :D n disks - 1, so 4TB
18:41 🔗 uzerus what cpu you have kiska?
18:42 🔗 kiska Archivebot at my home runs on Dual Xeon X5570's with 24GB of memory + 2x 146GB drives in RAID 0
18:42 🔗 uzerus WOW
18:42 🔗 kiska Anyway I am going back to sleep since its only 5:42am here in Sydney
18:42 🔗 uzerus ive fx8350
18:42 🔗 uzerus ok, goodn..day?
18:44 🔗 kiska Oh and my desktop runs a Dual Xeon E5-2670 with 64 GB of DDR3-ECC and 8x 4TB drives in RAID 5
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18:47 🔗 Martle kiska: Sweet rig
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19:22 🔗 godane i'm starting to upload 1968 episodes of ABC Evening News : https://archive.org/details/ABC-evening-news-1968-08-05
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19:28 🔗 Ryz I have another ArchiveBot idea, companies that were acquired by other companies; there's almost no way their websites would not change at all
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19:31 🔗 Ryz Saying this since inXile Entertainment is acquired by Microsoft, and that Obsidian Entertainment will be too afterward
19:31 🔗 Ryz Like, there's not much remains of the old PopCap website now that EA (Electronic Arts) owns that company
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19:48 🔗 JAA His website has been hugged to death, it seems: http://therealstanlee.com/ I'll throw it into ArchiveBot once it comes back online.
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19:50 🔗 SketchCow Active Interface: eth0 Interface Speed: unknown
19:50 🔗 SketchCow Current RX Speed: 55343.21 KB/s Current TX Speed: 11975.39 KB/s
19:50 🔗 SketchCow Graph Top RX Speed: 59788.25 KB/s Graph Top TX Speed: 59827.72 KB/s
19:50 🔗 SketchCow Overall Top RX Speed: 114946.09 KB/s Overall Top TX Speed: 98109.55 KB/s
19:50 🔗 SketchCow Received Packets: 30227631106 Transmitted Packets: 20659419156
19:50 🔗 SketchCow GBytes Received: 99990.275 GB GBytes Transmitted: 93133.099 GB
19:50 🔗 SketchCow Errors on Receiving: 0 Errors on Transmission: 0
19:50 🔗 SketchCow Thus concludes me running Slurm for 3 days
19:52 🔗 anarcat i take it that's a gigabit link?
19:52 🔗 anarcat i fixed that "Interface Speed: unknown" bug btw - https://github.com/mattthias/slurm/pull/29
19:55 🔗 Martle Matt Drudge deleted all his tweets, anybody have them?
19:55 🔗 Martle https://www.twitter.com/DRUDGE
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20:06 🔗 Sanqui moufu_: is running `go get github.com/tsudoko/pullcord/...` again supposed to fetch me master?
20:07 🔗 Sanqui because I'm still getting the reaction problem
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20:13 🔗 moufu_ you need to add -u (go get -u (...))
20:16 🔗 anarcat go get you!
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20:21 🔗 moufu_ alternatively you could cd $GOPATH/src/github.com/tsudoko/pullcord/cmd/pullcord && git pull --recurse-submodules && go install
20:24 🔗 Sanqui moufu_: https://pastebin.com/raw/PXsDq97d
20:24 🔗 Sanqui why does this feel so flimsy ?!
20:25 🔗 moufu_ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
20:25 🔗 Sanqui https://pastebin.com/raw/MiegQ2LT
20:26 🔗 moufu_ you need to go to cmd/pullcord
20:26 🔗 moufu_ the repo should've been on master after running the first command btw
20:26 🔗 moufu_ it just failed to pull the submodule
20:27 🔗 Sanqui alright, did the trick, and no more error
20:27 🔗 Sanqui thanks!
20:31 🔗 moufu_ Sanqui: btw is the source code for your stats page up somewhere?
20:31 🔗 Sanqui moufu_: it's a small python script I wrote just for this purpose but I can publish it
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20:38 🔗 Sanqui moufu_: https://github.com/Sanqui/pullcord-discord-stats
20:39 🔗 moufu_ thanks
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21:14 🔗 Ryz Weeks ago, I randomly found http://www.keepstake.com/all-marks?page=92 - which has a database of randomly submitted links going as far back as 2002; those links could be majorly archive-worthy
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21:16 🔗 Ryz It's called Keepstake to note
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22:09 🔗 VoynichCr i am again here to talk about image galleries in IA items
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22:10 🔗 VoynichCr if you upload 100 pics (5 Mb each one, average resolution today), when you browse the item, all images are downloaded at full resolution and shown in the slideshow
22:10 🔗 VoynichCr what the hell man
22:10 🔗 godane SketchCow: so i'm using book pavilion program
22:10 🔗 godane i doesn't have the weird slow scan issues that vuescan has
22:12 🔗 JAA VoynichCr: You might want to ask info@archive.org about that if you don't get an answer here.
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22:16 🔗 VoynichCr JAA: sure, though the usability for image items seems poor. Probably i will have to upload a resized version of images (so the system generates a small size slideshow) and a full resolution files in a separate zip
22:16 🔗 JAA Yeah, probably. At least you can still download individual images from within a zip on IA.
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22:18 🔗 CarlM Hihi
22:18 🔗 CarlM [17:16:59] <CarlM> Noob question: How do I build pullcord? Is there a specific order in which I have to build the subdirectories or anything or?
22:19 🔗 moufu_ cd cmd/pullcord && go install
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22:21 🔗 CarlM Alright
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22:29 🔗 * CarlM goes :| at Chocolatey and Git
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22:35 🔗 CarlM Bluh, I can't remember how to include stuff brought in from other repositories (discordgo in this case) when cloning
22:35 🔗 * CarlM facedesks at his stupidity
22:36 🔗 moufu git submodule update --init
22:37 🔗 CarlM Thanks x_x
22:37 🔗 VoynichCr JAA: email sent
22:39 🔗 CarlM https://paste.ee/p/7y8bu wtf
22:39 🔗 moufu the repo needs to be in your $GOPATH
22:39 🔗 VoynichCr i would like to move my image albums from flickr to IA, and use just IA, but the usability isnt good right now
22:39 🔗 CarlM Ah >_<
22:41 🔗 CarlM https://paste.ee/p/WMft5
22:42 🔗 CarlM (the same error results when trying to run `go build`, if that matters)
22:42 🔗 moufu okay I wasn't specific enough
22:45 🔗 moufu you need to move the repo directory to $GOPATH/src/github.com/tsudoko
22:45 🔗 CarlM WTF
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22:46 🔗 moufu `go get github.com/tsudoko/pullcord/...` would've done that for you automatically, sorry, I assumed you used `go get` to get the repo
22:47 🔗 CarlM No, I used `git clone` :x
22:47 🔗 moufu now I kinda understand a bit why so many people complain about gopath
22:47 🔗 anarcat haven't they fixed that in 1.12? or 1.11?
22:49 🔗 moufu there are modules, yeah, haven't looked into them yet
22:50 🔗 anarcat hmm.. yeah, but even without modules, i think GOPATH is not necessary anymore
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22:50 🔗 CarlM `2018/11/12 17:50:04 opening the websocket connection failed:websocket: close 4004: Authentication failed.` How do I authenticate?
22:51 🔗 anarcat moufu: no, you're right, modules are the alternative to gopath
22:51 🔗 anarcat https://blog.golang.org/go1.11
22:51 🔗 moufu CarlM: you need to pass a token or username and password
22:51 🔗 moufu CarlM: see `pullcord -h`
22:52 🔗 CarlM Sorry I'm so stupid >_<;
22:52 🔗 CarlM And it fails because I have two-factor authentication enabled :(
22:55 🔗 moufu well 2fa isn't implemented in any discord lib afaik because automating 2fa login is a ban trigger
22:55 🔗 CarlM Huh
22:55 🔗 moufu according to https://github.com/discordapp/discord-api-docs/issues/69#issuecomment-223886862 you can use the token you get after logging in, but I haven't tried it
22:56 🔗 CarlM It seems to work for me... right up until it tries to change an avatar's extension from .png.part to .png and gets told off because something else is also using that file, so it dies
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22:59 🔗 CarlM If I do the renaming for it, it proceeds to choke on the next avatar in the same way :x
23:02 🔗 moufu you're on windows, right?
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23:03 🔗 CarlM I am
23:04 🔗 moufu I don't have any windows machines atm, but I'll look into it if I get access to one
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23:06 🔗 CarlM OK :x
23:06 🔗 moufu okay I think I know why it happens
23:06 🔗 * CarlM 's desktop can also boot Mac OS X, but given that it has an NVIDIA graphics card and runs Mojave, he's content to let that OS sit in mothballs for the time being
23:06 🔗 CarlM Oh?
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23:08 🔗 moufu try pulling from the repo and rebuilding, might be fixed now
23:14 🔗 CarlM It appears to be working now
23:15 🔗 moufu good
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23:19 🔗 Flashfire Stan lee is dead did we save his stuff??
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23:21 🔗 CarlM And I ran into issue #4, yaaaaaaaaaaaaaay :(
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23:25 🔗 moufu you can exclude channels with -C for now
23:26 🔗 Lord_Nigh "<anonymous> so jacob mathias settled for 12 million dollars https://torrentfreak.com/images/romsjudg.pdf, I wonder how much he actually made"
23:30 🔗 CarlM Even after passing that argument, no matter whether or not I include the guild ID, it chokes on the same channel for the same reason
23:35 🔗 CarlM Now it's working again
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