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t3 |
How much of Twitter have we archived? |
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kbtoo_ |
From the number of deleted tweets that keep coming up from years ago I assumed there was a database somewhere with all of it. Is that not the case? |
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Lord_Nigh |
https://www.reddit.com/r/RevEng_TutsAndTools/comments/afr10k/full_siterip_of_exetools_forum_except_attachments/ee0tqlk/ |
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enowaldo |
kiska: Here I am. |
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kiska |
enowaldo: Are we just watching them for signs of death |
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enowaldo |
kiska: Yes. https://ello.co |
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kiska |
Or are there signs of death occurring? |
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enowaldo |
Founded ~2015, all the original crew are gone, owned by a deathly quiet Los Angeles artworks management group with virtually no contact info. |
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kiska |
Hrm I see... |
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enowaldo |
Site's been up, but strangeness going on since ~August, organisationally. |
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enowaldo |
Very heavily graphics-art oriented, a small bit of discussion. ~1-10 million users, I suspect, actives a very small fraction of that. |
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kiska |
Hrm: "engage our global community of 625K artists in 175 countries." |
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enowaldo |
Just happened to see the Deathwatch section at archiveteam.org |
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enowaldo |
There you go. |
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enowaldo |
It's also reasonably culturally interesting. There are some local talents who are pretty damned good. A poet and an SVG graphics wizard among them, several writers. |
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enowaldo |
And tons and tons of visual art, as I said. |
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kiska |
To "discover" artists, you need an account |
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enowaldo |
This would fit "owners missing in action" off the Dev/Infra page. |
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enowaldo |
Regwalls are stupid. |
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enowaldo |
There's *no* indication of imminent death, but a lot of creaking going on. |
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kiska |
Right adding this to my todo list |
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kiska: Founders leaving, post: https://ello.co/dredmorbius/post/bl2c2s7jdyexthpvybp3rw |
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enowaldo |
One of the bigger flags: the site had been registered as a B-Corp, but there's no sign that it still is, and no announcements or clarity on that point. |
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kiska |
I see... |
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enowaldo |
David Dailey is the SVG wizard (CMU emeritus) I mentioned, long thread on various oddness and disappointments, from 4 months ago: https://ello.co/ddailey/post/h86db_x3malsegwcy6mtwq |
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enowaldo |
File those two among your evidence, along with the corp status vagueness. |
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kiska |
arkiver: Can I also get you to talk to IA about ello as well? |
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arkiver |
kiska: sure, need a project? |
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kiska |
I believe it would be best to have it |
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kiska |
There are apparently 625k artists of varying size |
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kiska |
And fanfiction.net and writing.com as well? Since we had a ArchiveBot job for them and they crashed |
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arkiver |
fanfiction and writing are probably not too large |
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arkiver |
I´d say anything below 50 TB is totally fine |
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arkiver |
as long as it´s in real danger |
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kiska |
Alright, ello is probably the most in danger of the 3 projects on my todo, since owners have gone awol and various oddities have emerged |
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t3 |
kiska: Time to archive it. |
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kiska |
Yep! Also it looks like we have time so testing is a thing I can do unlike tumblr |
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t3 |
Yay! |
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VerfiedJ |
t3: This is probably the website in question: https://adamowicz.pl/ |
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enowaldo |
WTF? YouTube are removing annotations? |
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t3 |
VerfiedJ: http://adamowicz.pl/ |
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kiska |
enowaldo: Yes they are |
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t3 |
VerfiedJ: I'm having it archived through ArchiveBot. It's now in the queue. |
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enowaldo |
Oh, wait, those are the on-screen nags, not the captions, right? |
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t3: ok, thanks |
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t3 |
VerfiedJ: Does he have a Facebook account? |
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VerfiedJ |
t3: https://www.facebook.com/Pawel.Adamowicz |
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VerfiedJ |
and instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adamowiczpawel/ |
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t3 |
VerfiedJ: Thanks! |
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arkiver |
kiska: any estimates on ello? |
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kiska |
625k artists, assuming 30 images per artist and 3MiB/image, I estimate 375TiB, but assume it will be alot more |
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arkiver |
riht |
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arkiver |
right |
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kiska |
I might have put an extra 0 somewhere, but I am going to estimate 400TiB for ello |
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arkiver |
not sure we can get a project for that tbh, it´s a lot of data and afaik it´s not shutting down |
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arkiver |
just instable |
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arkiver |
but I´ll bring it up |
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don´t have too high hopes though |
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t3 |
PurpleSym: I'm currently archiving onsemi.com. |
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t3 |
It seems to be grabbing onsemi.jp and onsemi.cn URLs too. |
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t3: Are you saving to WARC and uploading to IA? |
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PurpleSym: Yes. |
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PurpleSym |
Good, t3. I looked into recovering metadata from PDF’s today, but PDF to text conversion is a nightmare. So we’ll need scrape the corresponding websites. |
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Wizzito |
Yep |
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Wizzito |
Flickr is definitely going to beat MobileMe as the biggest ArchiveTeam project |
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Wizzito |
200+ TB already |
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enowaldo |
:) |
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arkiver |
kiska: regarding ello. since the size it quite big we probably won´t start that project yet |
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arkiver |
but feel free to write the scripts and as soon as we have signals it´s going down we´ll get started on it |
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schbirid |
fyi it is possible to get your gdrive in a state when emptying the trash is not possible anymore... |
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schbirid |
it just says it does but nothing happens for me >.> |
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schbirid: Who deletes things? |
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:P |
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schbirid |
not google, evitably |
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arkiver: Re: Ello: OK. But keep a watch on it. |
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enowaldo: exactly |
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kiska: I think lots of Ello users haven't uploaded anything |
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kiska |
I just had a look at what they serve to users, 1 ~200KiB image. So I assume 100 images per artist, 625k artists, 2MiB/image. Gives me ~125TiB ±10%. And if what hook54321 says is true, that number can be further reduced because they haven't uploaded anything |
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kiska |
Also the initial ~400TB estimate was made using 30MiB/image which was a slight mistake on my part for inserting an extra 0 in my calculation |
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