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Oddly2 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [14:43] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [14:45] *** Oddly has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:46] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:52] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [14:55] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [15:00] *** Oddly has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [15:05] *** SimpBrain has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [15:05] *** SimpBrain has joined #archiveteam-bs [15:17] *** SimpBrain has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [15:18] *** SimpBrain has joined #archiveteam-bs [15:36] *** anarcat has joined #archiveteam-bs [15:36] JAA: sure [15:36] context: 8000 links in my wallabag instead i want to make sure are in archive.org or something [15:36] anarcat: The easiest solution would be to extract a list of URLs and throw that into ArchiveBot, probably. [15:36] ah yes, that would work too [15:36] that would probably be easier [15:36] thanks for fixing my brain [15:37] then new entries added could be shoved into the "save page now" feature thanks to feed2exec [15:37] and i wouldn't have to worry about this anymore [15:38] Yeah. You'll want to use a browser for that probably though, not just curl. Otherwise images etc. might not get grabbed. [15:39] hmm [15:39] yeah well, i don't have that luxury [15:40] just shoving the URLs in archive.org is already a good start [15:40] Or you dump all new links once per month and throw them into ArchiveBot. [15:43] i guess [15:43] okay, thanks [15:43] i still need to think about this, actually, because i suspect i might have non-public content in there unfortunately [15:43] Yeah, I was going to say, make sure you filter out anything you don't want to be public. [15:44] yeah [15:44] i guess that rules out that idea :p [15:44] i'm definitely not going to go through 8000 articles by hand [15:45] i love how i have tens of https://www.gizmodo.com.au/?nojs=1 links in there [15:45] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [15:50] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [15:56] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [15:59] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:00] too bad wallabag doesn'T have better public/private settings :/ [16:13] What is this cloudfest thing someone mentioned us apparently attending? [16:15] Hello, I have a question. [16:15] Probably aimed at jrwr [16:15] Hello [16:15] I think it's time to set up another wiki. [16:15] I do i DO [16:15] I'd like your help. [16:15] Oh? What kind of wiki [16:16] I think it's time to set up a wiki, run by Archive Team, about Internet Archive. [16:16] renegade documentation :O [16:16] Oh? Very nice [16:16] Transfer over everything we sort of grabbed. But make the book about how to use Internet Archive that Internet Archive just very obviously will not do. [16:17] I spent a couple years indicating we should have a wiki at the archive, outward facing, that was our documentation [16:17] Nope, it's obvious we will never get that [16:17] Ah, the the hitchhiker's guide to the internet archive? [16:17] We had a shitty internal wiki but that thing got blown up [16:17] Well, certainly close to that idea, yes. [16:17] Uh, why "transfer over everything we sort of grabbed"? Or what do you mean by that exactly? [16:17] We have internet archive docs on the archiveteam wiki [16:18] They're.... good [16:18] ^^^^ Thats what I though he ment [16:18] But obviously they're in subservience [16:18] Let's quickly brainstorm the hostname [16:18] internetarchive.archiveteam.org is not off the table [16:18] But I bet there's a better one [16:19] ia-guide [16:19] awesome idea [16:20] Anyway, jrwr, can you shove a second instance of a wiki connected to a hostname on the machine you control? [16:20] arkiver: All my ideas are awesome and don't forget it [16:20] Your hosting package you have now? [16:20] * SketchCow waves his hand around the room, everyone ignores the shaking [16:20] How would this be different from https://archive.org/services/docs/api/index.html ? [16:21] This would be more higher level then that [16:21] more then just the APi, but how things are stored, processed, what to do [16:21] I don't know... how is a travel guide and encyclopedia different than a binder of command-line options [16:21] * jrwr head explodes [16:21] https://archive.org/services/docs/api/index.html is already somewhat a wiki [16:22] The first two pages are rather high-level. [16:22] i was able to contribute there on github, this could simply be expanded to cover more stuff [16:22] Here's the best part [16:22] Wait for it [16:22] THERE MIGHT BE TWO SOURCES OF INFORMATION [16:22] TWO [16:22] T W O [16:22] * jrwr head explodes again [16:23] With slightly different or wildly different approaches to the concepts [16:23] Sounds wonderful. [16:23] Here is what I know. People come to the archive with things and they are not happy [16:23] I already never know where to look something up. This will definitely make it better. :-) [16:23] Or they look at that learning curve which is like a marathon with a wolverine tied to your crotch and they don't do it [16:24] Also, it is in the archive's interest to not mention things [16:24] Or mention things a certain way [16:24] Or not want to be informal because they're trying to run a style [16:24] So I want something that's living, instead of writing a shitty o'reilly book [16:24] Which was my other idea [16:24] (jrwr, while you're here, check my recent PM please.) [16:25] I see [16:25] Anyway, jrwr - is it possible to fit a second wiki on that machine [16:25] Ill look into it again [16:25] Maybe SketchCow, Im working on the issue now [16:25] And if not, let me find another machine or we can discuss where to get a host [16:26] I already pay too much for all my hosting [16:26] One thing we might want to keep in mind is that the wiki occasionally already hits resource limits for some reason. [16:26] I know why it does that [16:27] but we do need to do some science for SketchCow to give it a better home, the main reason is because of trolls like to send angry mail to his hosters [16:27] Oh, that's not so bad. [16:27] So, if we decide on a URL for the wiki, which I'd like to do now [16:28] Can you add a second instance [16:28] JAA: We were super inefficient. [16:28] maybe, it should be in your control panel already [16:28] let me hunt down the username or password (or PM it to me :)) and ill get started [16:29] SketchCow: You mean before jrwr did his magic? Yeah, but it happened again a few times afterwards. Much, much rarer than before though. [16:29] Great [16:29] I am fine with resource blowout [16:29] If we find the new wiki is blowing up the old wiki, then it makes sense to buy a second monthly host and move it there [16:30] Ya [16:30] Yeah [16:30] I don't like buying a rolls royce to get the groceries until we know we need it [16:30] This project could explode [16:30] Already people think it's slightly redundant [16:30] I don't [16:30] Mostly JAA its just a old school CPANEL shared host with some special agreements to help it stay on the internet from the trolls and crazies [16:31] SketchCow: I am around for approximtely 54.3 nanoseconds, but random name suggestion: howtoarchive.org [16:31] SketchCow: Ya, I've still got SSH access, but will need to get the username/password from your again SketchCow, you can PM it to me in the many methods you have [16:32] moar wikis [16:32] joepie91: It'll be archiveteam.org [16:32] I want it from us [16:32] ok [16:33] But good thinking [16:33] Regarding costs: You could spend some of the money from opencollective. [16:33] jrwr: ping me on the discord [16:33] Yeah, keeping it under the AT domain also helps making it clear that this is unofficial. [16:33] Exactly. [16:33] There’s currently $436 in that account. [16:34] But the docs on the archive are aimed towards the API, they don't discuss behavior and they don't discuss approaches and they don't walk you through things and so on [16:37] *** turnkit_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:37] *** turnkit has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:37] *** turnkit_ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:37] *** turnkit has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:38] *** SimpBrain has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:39] So, I'm going to go take my quick walk to get my miles in today (miles every day no matter what), and when I come back we can hopefully have nailed it down and get cracking [16:41] *** SimpBrain has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:54] *** RichardG has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 615 seconds) [16:55] oh man [16:56] im finding all the little hacks I did to get this into a modern web [17:01] *** SimpBrain has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [17:01] *** SimpBrain has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:11] Ok nerds, its up [17:11] https://internetarchive.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Special:CreateAccount&returnto=Main+Page [17:11] same "password" as the main wiki [17:16] so [17:17] FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD [17:17] :) [17:17] got it [17:21] *** turnkit_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:21] *** turnkit has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [17:21] *** turnkit_ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [17:22] *** turnkit has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:22] arkiver: you are a admin now [17:22] you can give rights as you see fit :0 [17:22] *** SimpBrain has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [17:25] *** SimpBrain has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:25] thank you! [17:37] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Ao5QdQlJ/ia-at-logo.png [17:37] made a logo for it [17:39] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/OUQBObOW/ia-at-logo2.png [17:39] litlle better [17:40] that's too dark [17:42] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [17:45] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:47] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/dXWCtewE/ia-at-logo2.png [17:50] looks good [17:50] ^ [17:50] yay for Gimp [17:51] afk 1 hr [17:52] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [17:52] *** RichardG has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:54] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:01] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [18:04] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:11] *** omglolbah has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:18] Bacl [18:18] Back [18:18] Walking, bitches [18:20] That's 4 miles towards health [18:20] Used it to buy vegetables [18:20] more health [18:21] So, GUESS WHAT [18:21] I think it needs a channel [18:21] Either that or we hotbox it on my discord [18:22] SketchCow: can i hop on your discord? [18:23] https://discord.gg/4rYBpn [18:23] It's a ridiculous shitbin of idlers [18:23] And me yelling into the wind [18:23] Like all good discords [18:23] Very little nazis [18:23] Not a single reference to cub play allowed [18:24] now you have one more idler [18:24] congratulations [18:24] I'm going to do a fun little article on 300 Funston on the Wiki [18:28] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [18:31] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:35] Should I make a statement of purpose in there [18:35] Or should we just swim around a bit, adding shit to the thing [18:36] I am fine with us being a little loose for a while, dumping internet archive knowledge and links that aren't anywhere [18:36] Maybe I should make a "warroom" page with ideas for folks [18:36] sounds giid [18:36] good* [18:36] also made jscott a admin on the wiki [18:37] fucking thank god [18:38] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [18:40] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:44] *** zhongfu has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [18:45] *** zhongfu has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:45] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [18:48] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:52] https://internetarchive.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=300_Funston_Avenue [18:52] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [18:57] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:58] "On multiple occasions, the increased amounts of power consumption by the Archive caused power outages in the neighborhood" [18:58] yow [18:59] Oh, I'm sure this will be a learning experience. [18:59] OK, GO ASK FOR YOUR ACCOUNTS [18:59] Time to get this show on the road [19:03] *** Exairnous has joined #archiveteam-bs [19:04] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [19:06] *** omarroth has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [19:06] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [19:10] https://internetarchive.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=War_Room [19:23] SketchCow: https://www.flickr.com/photos/textfiles/8847182980/in/album-72157633722203885/ [19:24] that is the best thing I've seen [19:25] That's David the artist in Residence [19:27] let me know if you need anything done to the wiki tech wise [19:29] Looking good so far, thanks. 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