#archiveteam-bs 2019-07-07,Sun

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00:16 🔗 hook54321 huh, wiki editsaren't showing up here anymore.
00:18 🔗 CoolCanuk https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=INTERNETARCHIVE.BAK/ipfs_implementation IPFS would be perfect
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00:22 🔗 JAA hook54321: Yes they do, but it looks like the bot filters out pages in the "Archiveteam" namespace.
00:22 🔗 JAA PurpleSym: ^
00:22 🔗 hook54321 oh, weird.
00:23 🔗 hook54321 When I edited that archive.today article awhile ago it didn't show up either
00:23 🔗 JAA Not really, it just has a whitelist of which namespaces to include. I think "Archiveteam" wasn't added until fairly recently (Archiveteam:IRC page?).
00:24 🔗 hook54321 ah
00:24 🔗 CoolCanuk has there been any talk about adding semantic to our mediawiki?
00:25 🔗 CoolCanuk it would let us use database calls, as can be seen here: https://www.sigidwiki.com/wiki/Category:Analogue we could use it for pages like https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=List_of_websites_excluded_from_the_Wayback_Machine (auto sort by alpha)
00:28 🔗 JAA We can't even keep our wiki updated in the current form. I don't think adding more things will improve that in any way.
00:28 🔗 CoolCanuk fair
00:28 🔗 JAA But yes, I've thought about it before, in particular regarding the stuff that's currently in the infobox.
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01:06 🔗 JAA Wat, ATWarriorBot has made a return?!
01:07 🔗 JAA It hasn't been active since late 2017, which is why I wrote JAABot...
01:07 🔗 JAA jrwr: ^ What's going on?
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11:18 🔗 jrwr I don't know why it returned
11:18 🔗 jrwr It's a cronjob on sdf.org
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11:51 🔗 betamax OK, time for a "Argh! I've lost some important data!" question:
11:52 🔗 JAA PurpleSym: Thanks!
11:53 🔗 betamax I was recording a talk on a Tascam portable recorder. THe memory card (microSD) I was given to use wasn't formatted right for the recorder, I didn't want to erase it because I didn't know what else was on it
11:53 🔗 betamax Instead I used the microSD card out my android phone, which I formatted oin the recorder as I knew there was nothing important on it
11:53 🔗 betamax all went well, recording worked
11:53 🔗 JAA jrwr: Huh. Well, you can probably get rid of it then since my bot will take care of it reliably.
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11:54 🔗 betamax afterwords, I put the SD card back in my phone because (being microSD) I would lose it otherwise
11:54 🔗 betamax Android presented the "Setup or Eject" message, which I ignored
11:55 🔗 betamax I have now put the card in my computer, and it has a some Android-created folders on it, no recording
11:55 🔗 betamax I'm rather surprised that Android just wiped everything without asking me
11:55 🔗 betamax Photorec doesn't help. Nor does Scalpel.
11:56 🔗 betamax Has anyone ever experienced this or know what I could try?
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11:59 🔗 JAA betamax: No real advice for the specific situation, but before trying anything further, I'd make a complete copy of the card with dd or something and then only work with (copies of) that copy.
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12:01 🔗 betamax JAA: thanks - that was the first thing I did
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12:03 🔗 JAA :-)
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12:38 🔗 betamax Now my 2GB microSD card is generating 4GB disk images with dd..... I may have found the culprit.
12:38 🔗 betamax time to write the awkward email of "I've lost the recording of the talk..."
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13:04 🔗 kiska Every SD Card I buy I put it through h2testw regardless of where it came from. And if I know that a SD Card has been in another device I won't even try to use not a PC to read it. And that is why I always carry around either my macbook pro, or SD Card holder
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19:17 🔗 arkiver I´m so much looking forward to := https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0572/
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19:34 🔗 abstract arkiver, wasnt this very controversial?
19:34 🔗 arkiver it was yeah
19:34 🔗 arkiver but it´ll be in 3.8
19:34 🔗 abstract why would you say it was so controversial a pep?
19:35 🔗 arkiver because it ws
19:35 🔗 arkiver because it was?
19:35 🔗 abstract i guess i mean, what about it made it so - the pep, the idea, factionalisation, etc?
19:35 🔗 arkiver https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/8yfp51/what_is_the_drama_behind_pep_572_and_guido_can/
19:38 🔗 arkiver I´m on Guido´s side
19:38 🔗 abstract im not really looking for sides or anything, im just curious how a relatively innocuous change dethroned the bdfl
19:39 🔗 arkiver well he stepped down
19:39 🔗 arkiver wans´t exactly dethroned
19:39 🔗 arkiver other discussions between the community and him happened before
19:40 🔗 arkiver I guess he was a bad dictator :P
19:44 🔗 PurpleSym The LWN article linked has a lot of good examples why this operator is not necessary to produce short and readable code.
19:54 🔗 schbirid i hate that operator :(
19:55 🔗 schbirid python being low on special magic characters makes it so nice
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