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00:12 🔗 Lord_Nigh endrift: what atphoenix said: if all the videos including the two 'missing' xna ones are on IA then i don't think there's any need
00:12 🔗 endrift how do I check?
00:13 🔗 * endrift never used 3dbuzz before it went down
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00:39 🔗 Lord_Nigh endrift: well, there's two videos which someone uploaded to a google drive which were incomplete/bad in the torrent, i think, but you may be able to 'fix' the torrent using those? i think?
00:41 🔗 Lord_Nigh endrift: https://old.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/ekhzsd/3dbuzz_closing_doors_all_content_released_for_free/fddm16u/ has links in the top post for two xna videos on google drive
00:41 🔗 Lord_Nigh those are the missing ones, which are bad in both(?) torrents
00:41 🔗 Lord_Nigh "This really isn't that bad since I think XNA is now defunct anyway. I don't plan to correct the issue or seek the correct files." ... wtf OP in that reddit thread
00:43 🔗 Lord_Nigh XNA is still VERY MUCH a thing, especially with flibitijibibo's work on FNA and tomspilman's work on monogame
00:43 🔗 endrift in one of my torrents the files are just missing
00:43 🔗 endrift so I might delete that torrent
00:43 🔗 endrift in the other one they're present and unzip -t says no errors
00:44 🔗 Lord_Nigh ok
00:44 🔗 Lord_Nigh that's a good sign
00:44 🔗 Lord_Nigh the other torrent (if it hasn't already been) needs to be turned into an IA item
00:45 🔗 endrift I just deleted the torrent that was missing those items since it sounds like all of the zips in it were already accounted for
00:45 🔗 Lord_Nigh I'm not sure how that's done, last i checked there was an issue with IA items and exposing the emails of the people who created them, so i've been waiting for that to be confirmed fixed before I do anything personally, unless people have figured out a way around it
00:46 🔗 Lord_Nigh someone waaaaay back at IA decided that your email is your username and it gets exposed in the xml of the items you upload. I think that's not only idiotic, but also a violation of the GDPR and well as that new california law, so it needs fixing yesterday. it might already be fixed to use a username instead
00:47 🔗 endrift I'll hold onto this torrent for now
00:47 🔗 Lord_Nigh i suppose another option is to find someone else who either doesn't mind or has a burner email to make the item
00:48 🔗 endrift I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be doing tbh
00:48 🔗 Lord_Nigh neither am i.
00:48 🔗 Lord_Nigh just hold onto the one torrent for now, until we can figure it out
00:49 🔗 marked1 were the .zips never grabbed into .warc format?
00:49 🔗 PovAddict check the xml of another item?
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01:16 🔗 SootBectr Yes: https://ia601400.us.archive.org/5/items/alleyesonwetsuwetensolidarityactionroundup/alleyesonwetsuwetensolidarityactionroundup_meta.xml I'm glad you made me aware of that!
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01:54 🔗 PovAddict is there any info on what's appropriate to upload to archive.org?
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02:40 🔗 PovAddict ranma: I mean like, where does it explicitly say "archive.org is not your personal free storage"
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02:42 🔗 PovAddict which of course it isn't, but I want to know what is the line of "appropriate for a library"
02:44 🔗 ranma well, this is what i've uploaded https://archive.org/details/@plonk420
02:44 🔗 ranma probably one of those doesn't belong there
02:45 🔗 PovAddict "Shrek in Discord-friendly 8MB (AV1)" neat, I saw Bee Movie in low-bitrate h264 circulating around Discord (40MB I think?)
02:46 🔗 ranma yeah, that probably doesn't belong
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02:49 🔗 ranma it may only be in the archives of OCD public radio station managers and some randos that recorded it OTA
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18:11 🔗 JAA For visibility: We recently (in the last week or two) passed 1.2 PB of ArchiveBot data and 12 billion URLs archived!
18:11 🔗 astrid woot!
18:12 🔗 PovAddict that's a lot of bytes
18:13 🔗 PovAddict I have 4TB, wonder if I count as a data hoarder already
18:17 🔗 anarcat it's all relative :)
18:18 🔗 PovAddict at least 2TB of which is friends' Twitch streams
18:20 🔗 anarcat definitely hoarding then ;)
18:22 🔗 PovAddict it's an almost complete collection, it would be a shame to stop now!
18:28 🔗 PovAddict I think that's 2300 hours of video?
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19:27 🔗 Dallas Are you using something to automatically capture them when they go live??
19:36 🔗 PovAddict Dallas: I save the VODs that Twitch already records
19:37 🔗 PovAddict but there's someone else doing his own archiving of other streams and he does record from live automatically
19:41 🔗 Dallas Ahh fair
19:41 🔗 Dallas Ngl the username povaddict makes me assume you archive a particular subgenre of porn.... That may say more about my mind than anything though 👀
19:42 🔗 PovAddict what it really says is that efnet kicked me out yet again and my client went to my 'secondary nickname' that I haven't used in years and I didn't notice
19:42 🔗 PovAddict is now known as nicolas17
19:42 🔗 nicolas17 also the actual meaning is povray.org
19:48 🔗 Stiletto POVRay, now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time... a long time...
19:56 🔗 Dallas Join these rooms on hackint, my client has dc'd from efnet like 5 times this week and 0 on there
20:03 🔗 nicolas17 I'm on both, there's still more activity and users on efnet
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21:57 🔗 Dallas Ah yeah fair point
23:22 🔗 SootBectr FWIW I've not been disconnected from efnet.port80.se since I joined here in mid december
23:23 🔗 Frogging I wonder what their standards are for linked servers
23:24 🔗 Frogging aside from not being eris.berkeley.edu :P
23:24 🔗 endrift SootBectr: that's not how netsplits work though
23:25 🔗 endrift it's not users getting disconnected by their server, it's the servers failing to communicate with each other, making it look like people drop
23:27 🔗 SootBectr Sure, but if everyone joins the same server a split doesn't matter
23:28 🔗 JAA Yay, single point of failure.
23:28 🔗 JAA By the way, both things happen, but some EFnet servers are more stable than others.
23:29 🔗 JAA Also, this is far from the only downside of EFnet.
23:29 🔗 JAA https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=User:JustAnotherArchivist/hackint_vs_EFnet
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