#archiveteam-bs 2020-01-28,Tue

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08:44 🔗 Aoede Nintendo has sued romuniverse.com for 1 billion dollars
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08:48 🔗 HP_Archiv Aoede, source?
08:50 🔗 Aoede HP_Archiv: https://www.pcmag.com/news/nintendo-sues-romuniversecom-for-game-piracy
08:50 🔗 Aoede and related video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOqfn6vrlJU
08:51 🔗 HP_Archiv Well, not quite as up to the moment as I hoped, nor are they 'suing for a billion dollars'
08:51 🔗 HP_Archiv Millions, not billion
08:52 🔗 HP_Archiv I'm not seeing billions in any legal literature or reference, even though the video says billions...
08:53 🔗 Aoede oh yeah, still a ton of money
08:56 🔗 HP_Archiv Yup. Nintendo has inadvertantly put itself in a position of promoting piracy - if they won't spend the money necessary to build out an entire arm of their corporate business dedicated to the preservation of their cannon of what are now considered culturally significant objects, the public will.
08:59 🔗 HP_Archiv Going on 35+ years now, nobody then though these things would be culturally significant. Then again, I challenge anyone to seek out a creative process - be it film making, painting, writing, other, etc - where the creator incorporates archival thought into said process. eg; it's like asking a famous painter to only paint on acid-free paper, incorporating archival standards in their work from the get-go. It just doesn't happen
08:59 🔗 HP_Archiv like that
09:00 🔗 HP_Archiv Thanks for sharing, Aoede
09:38 🔗 atphoenix This is why we need sane public domain laws. Renew copyrights every x years, with exponentially increasing renewal fees each time renewed, esp item reverts to public domain. Low value items won't get renewed. High value items will get renewed until the fees are not worth it.
09:38 🔗 atphoenix else item, not esp item
09:54 🔗 HP_Archiv This ^^ agreed
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18:51 🔗 Frogging I wish Nintendo would stop being the way they are with regard to copyright enforcement
18:52 🔗 Frogging so hardnosed and hostile
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18:53 🔗 Frogging unlike with trademarks, they do not have to do this to keep their copyrights. it's entirely up to them if, how, and when they target infringement. correct me if I'm wrong.
18:53 🔗 astrid i believe that copyright and trademark both need to be defended to be kept
19:00 🔗 Frogging I do not think that is the case for copyright, but I can't find anything to back this up
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19:07 🔗 Frogging in fact from what I can tell, there's no explicit requirement to enforce trademarks either. It's just that if they become "generic" terms, then the trademark may no longer stand up in court. Lack of enforcement alone does not cause this, but enforcement can prevent it
19:09 🔗 Frogging my throwaway opinion: As I understand copyright, it provides legal rights to creators, which they can do with as they please (sell them, use them, give them away, or ignore them)
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19:14 🔗 SootBectr romuniverse.com homepage offers me current Switch games, not at all surprising Nintendo would go after them.
19:15 🔗 Frogging ah
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19:18 🔗 Frogging that makes a bit more sense
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22:24 🔗 SketchCow I LOVE WHEN PEOPLE DISCUSS LAW
22:25 🔗 SketchCow It's so breathtaking, so innovating. Finally, this understudied field of "can ROMs?" gets the light and attention it deserves
22:30 🔗 Frogging it's one of those things that's fun to speculate about, though useless :p
22:37 🔗 marked1 https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3047933/china-coronavirus-youtube-and-twitter-show-realities-life
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22:39 🔗 marked1 https://www.scmp.com/tech/policy/article/3047900/chinese-netizens-take-advantage-rare-opportunity-vent-anger-social
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22:47 🔗 SketchCow I find it 100% unfun to speculate about
22:52 🔗 astrid i find it tiresome
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