#archiveteam-bs 2020-03-02,Mon

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05:42 🔗 OrIdow6 (Going off of wp494 in #archiveteam, my initial impressions of the Leaue of Legends forums & boards) - The forums, which have been in read-only mode since October 6, 2014 (http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4909234), are here http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/
05:43 🔗 OrIdow6 The boards are here https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/ - some boards are not listed in the sidebar (requires JS to see), e.g. https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-feedback?sort_type=recent
05:46 🔗 OrIdow6 There are several of what I look like continent/region names in the domains - among these are na, euw, oce, and pbe - looks like these are separate sites with separate sets of posts
06:00 🔗 wp494 League has different login regions that accounts are bound to
06:00 🔗 wp494 accounts can be transferred between regions, but for an RP fee
06:10 🔗 wp494 SHOULD BE MENTIONED: PBE is a beta environment where things are tested prior to being released to the live game; it functions similar to Dota 2 test/Blizzard PTRs/etc
06:17 🔗 OrIdow6 wp494: Do you know if this list (https://support-leagueoflegends.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201751684-League-of-Legends-Servers) + pbe is comprehensive?
06:18 🔗 OrIdow6 To quote my script, "Total is 8748215" threads on the forums, as long as I haven't made any mistakes there
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06:23 🔗 wp494 Some regions, namely southeast Asia, are outsourced to Garena, but for all Riot-controlled regions yes
06:25 🔗 wp494 There is a Riot-controlled Korea region but I'm not too sure what the deal is with that one and why it's otherwise excluded from that list
06:25 🔗 wp494 Garena regions are as follows: Singapore, Indonesia, Philippines, Taiwan, Vietnam, Thailand
06:25 🔗 wp494 (but given that it's Garena infrastructure I'm reasonably sure they wouldn't have their own boards regions, doesn't hurt to check but I doubt it)
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06:45 🔗 OrIdow6 https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Servers looks like it includes the other ones, then
06:57 🔗 OrIdow6 Doesn't look like any of those new ones have forums
06:58 🔗 OrIdow6 There is a hole of ~10000 thread IDs at the beginning of "lan"'s space
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07:21 🔗 OrIdow6 In addition to the division by region, and obviously the division into subforums and threads, there is a level directly under region consisting of language
07:21 🔗 OrIdow6 In some regions (e.g. jp), there is only one
07:22 🔗 OrIdow6 What languages are listed is determined through JS - I don't want to look into it right now
07:27 🔗 OrIdow6 I'm talking about boards there - forums have 1 language per region, as far as I can tell, & I use "subforum" in the context of boards to refer to the groups of threads that I think may be properly called "categories"
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13:54 🔗 atphoenix if AB is used on a big forum, I suggest feeding AB !ao lists of thread URLs that are spread across multiple AB jobs so they can run in parallel. (This assumes that each AB job is the rate-limiting factor, and not the forum site. Disregard this if a dedicated project effort is in the works that uses qwarc or other means that don't have AB's limits.)
14:18 🔗 hook54321 atphoenix: wouldn't that mean stuff past the first page of a thread wouldn't be grabbed?
14:24 🔗 atphoenix hook54321, that depends on how the thread URLs are provided to !ao
14:26 🔗 atphoenix I'm suggesting that every page of every thread be fed as a separate line item to AB via a list. That still will require figuring out how long each thread is, but that presumably can be determined by looking at the first page of each thread.
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15:15 🔗 hook54321 it might make more sense to qwarc it or run it outside of archivebot with over 6 concurrency
15:18 🔗 JAA ^
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16:07 🔗 atphoenix I did mention qwarc. That parallel AB idea may be more 'accessible' for cases where people don't know how to setup qwarc for a custom project.
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20:29 🔗 OrIdow6 Threads are indexed by sequential numbers, should be easy enough
20:32 🔗 OrIdow6 Pitfalls are 1. the "hole" in numbers I describe enough, which I think has a good chance of being replicated in other regions &/or other places 2. some non-OK HTTP status code (rate limiting?) that my script encountered at one point, even though it was a valid thread
20:32 🔗 OrIdow6 *describe above
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