#archiveteam-bs 2020-03-04,Wed

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03:18 🔗 godane so i got a 10 pack of NXT 16GB usb sticks today
03:18 🔗 godane this is so i have a pack of usb stick when i need to give someone a usb stick
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05:56 🔗 atphoenix godane, is there something special about NXT usb sticks? I have not had any problems with Micro Center branded usb sticks for casual use. https://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.aspx?Ntt=micro+center+usb
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06:51 🔗 godane atphoenix: no there is nothing special
06:51 🔗 godane its just Staples is the only place i get them locally
06:52 🔗 godane there was also a deal to make $40 which expires on the 23rd
06:52 🔗 godane there all 3.0 usb stick though
06:53 🔗 godane vs the 2.0 version you shown
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13:37 🔗 JAA Ryz: Uhm, most of the links on https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Elections/2020_United_States_primary_election are not actually related to the primaries at all but are other elections?
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14:24 🔗 atphoenix godane, my link had both USB 2 and 3, with USB 3.1 16 GB for $4.49 everyday price. Looks like with the coupon you got similar items for $4.00 each in your 10 pack.
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18:08 🔗 JAA Ryz: So what about that page?
18:09 🔗 Ryz Huh? What's up?
18:09 🔗 JAA See above
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18:13 🔗 Ryz The thing is, I thought so too and was pondering whether to just bail this thing or repurpose it as a general election of the United States - something like this https://ballotpedia.org/Arkansas_State_Senate_elections,_2020#Primary_election - which I'm covering is different from https://ballotpedia.org/Arkansas_State_Senate_elections,_2020#General_
18:13 🔗 Ryz election
18:14 🔗 JAA Hmm, well, "primary" is very unspecific though, and most people will almost certainly think of the primaries for the presidential election.
18:14 🔗 Ryz In that way, I'm covering candidates that have won and lost the 'Primary election', whereas the 'General election' isn't until that faithful 2020 November
18:18 🔗 Ryz Looking more and more of the stuff is increasingly confusing as I worked more this from https://ballotpedia.org/State_legislative_elections,_2020#Elections_by_state - I had to mine all the primary election dates myself since it wasn't in a convenient list and apparently they all have different dates~
18:19 🔗 JAA Yeah, that's another thing, your page now covers a large number of unrelated elections.
18:21 🔗 Ryz If you're talking about the California one, that one is an absolute mess compared to the other sections~
18:24 🔗 JAA No, I mean the entire page. Each state's elections are completely unrelated to everything else on the page.
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18:24 🔗 JAA There's also no such thing as a "2020 US primary election". There are primary elections for a number of different elections in the states of the US.
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18:24 🔗 JAA But I'd argue those should be on their own pages.
18:25 🔗 Ryz Yeah, it's getting too long,
18:25 🔗 JAA That's not my point.
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18:26 🔗 Ryz If you refer '2020 US primary election' as one exact date that all the states share, no, I found out that they have their dates compared to just something concrete in November~
18:27 🔗 JAA I have no idea what you're trying to say.
18:28 🔗 Ryz 'There are primary elections for a number of different elections in the states of the US.' - there's more than one primary election in a state within the year?
18:28 🔗 Ryz The only thing I can think are the 'Primary runoff' ones when checking something like https://ballotpedia.org/Texas_House_of_Representatives_elections,_2020
18:29 🔗 JAA Of course. There are primary elections for the presidential election within both parties, then there are primaries for state senate elections, and so on.
18:30 🔗 Ryz Yeah, and that's why at the time, I was putting all of it under 'Primary election' page, not really knowing how complex it would be~
18:30 🔗 Ryz I didn't focus on the presidential candidates though, I focused on the smaller stuff
18:31 🔗 JAA Yeah, but grouping it like this makes no sense.
18:33 🔗 Ryz Mm, okay, would it be split up, something like https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Elections/2020_United_States_primary_election/Arkansas ?
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18:38 🔗 Ryz Is there a Move option on the wiki for individual sections, and not pages? I know moving pages is possible, but sections?
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18:38 🔗 JAA No, there would be a page "Elections/2020 United States Senate elections", which would then contain the races for seats in the US senate within each state. And that'd be completely separate from e.g. "Elections/2020 California State Senate elections", which has nothing to do with the US at all.
18:39 🔗 JAA If the former page would get too large, then yes, it could be split up into subpages for each state.
18:39 🔗 JAA (Cf. how I did it for the EU parliament elections last year)
18:39 🔗 JAA Moving sections must be done manually as far as I know.
18:56 🔗 Ryz Hmm...
19:02 🔗 Ryz Would something like this work JAA? https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Elections/2020_United_States_primary_election#Arkansas
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19:05 🔗 JAA Ryz: As I explained before, I think that page should not exist at all. Maybe an overview page for all the elections taking place on 3 Nov would make sense. Everything else should simply be a separate page and listed in the calendar on "Elections".
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19:05 🔗 JAA It just doesn't make sense to separate things into "primary elections" and "general elections".
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19:07 🔗 Ryz Well, it'll be converted to just '2020 United States elections' then, since those two pages I made are not under the old one JAA~
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19:08 🔗 Ryz I still think it was important to grab people or propositions that appeared in the primaries only since when the general election comes, the ones that aren't voted to move on to the general election are gone-zo
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19:09 🔗 JAA Oh sure, but that's no different than any other election happening in two rounds.
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19:09 🔗 Ryz I don't remember, have we covered elections that are in two or more rounds?
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19:10 🔗 Ryz I remember that we tend to just archive the ones that occurred on their main Election Day and nothing else?
19:10 🔗 JAA Of course, everything that's listed with two dates on https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Elections
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19:11 🔗 JAA But elections are complicated and work differently everywhere. Sometimes it's the same candidates (e.g. mayor of Istanbul). Other times, only the top candidates go on to the second round. Sometimes, the two elections are very close to each other, within a few weeks. Other times they're months apart. It's a bit of a mess.
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22:48 🔗 betamax SketchCow: that 'Does IA want a book' idea looks really nifty. I'm curious as to how the logistics will work once someone identified that they have a number of books that IA wants.
22:49 🔗 betamax ie: who pays for postage, where do they send them, are there minimum quantities, etc...
22:49 🔗 betamax and I recognise that this is a very new thing and as such the answers to the above may not yet be known :)
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