#archiveteam-ot 2018-11-14,Wed

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03:17 🔗 icedice Is it safe to stop an external HDD that is being reformated? I don't think it will be done in time for when I have to catch the train.
03:19 🔗 ivan yes
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03:19 🔗 icedice Good, that's what I figured
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03:20 🔗 ivan "formatting" a drive by writing to every sector is kind of pointless unless you're doing a write-then-read test to check for bitflips or something
03:20 🔗 ivan you can write an empty filesystem to a drive in a few seconds
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03:40 🔗 icedice It's good if using the drive for the first time I heard
03:40 🔗 icedice In case there's damage or something like that
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06:26 🔗 Kaz unless you're actually checking for errors it makes no difference
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08:21 🔗 eientei95 "This hooker says you need a hooker." - Jason Scott (2009)
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12:27 🔗 kiska From pm:
12:28 🔗 kiska [2018-11-14 12:25:16] <kiska> Horribly
12:28 🔗 kiska [2018-11-14 12:25:41] <kiska> This is the textbook: http://www4.comp.polyu.edu.hk/~comp2421/ComputerOrganizationAndDesign5thEdition2014.pdf
12:28 🔗 kiska [2018-11-14 12:25:46] <kiska> If you wanna read though it
12:28 🔗 kiska [2018-11-14 12:25:53] <kiska> Programming on paper = cancer
12:28 🔗 kiska [2018-11-14 12:25:58] <twoTBHetz> Oh well i hope it does not crush some dreams
12:28 🔗 kiska [2018-11-14 12:26:19] <twoTBHetz> oh i am hearing something similar
12:28 🔗 kiska [2018-11-14 12:26:34] <kiska> I like my IDE
12:28 🔗 kiska [2018-11-14 12:27:04] <kiska> I like having autocomplete, I like syntax highlighting, I like syntax checking
12:28 🔗 kiska [2018-11-14 12:27:20] <kiska> Those things don't exist on paper, also -ot
12:28 🔗 kiska Oh... twoTBHetz isn't here
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12:29 🔗 twoTBHetz kiska i hear "computer architecture and computer design" but it is only like 3 hours aweek so likely worth less than your exam
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12:29 🔗 kiska My exam was worth 50% of my mark xD
12:30 🔗 twoTBHetz oh funny thing i will also have an pre-exam in a few days where i can get bonus points for the exam
12:31 🔗 twoTBHetz (of the "same" class
12:32 🔗 kiska Now I go back to marking the HSC
12:32 🔗 twoTBHetz HSC?
12:33 🔗 kiska Higher School Certificate
12:33 🔗 kiska NSW's completion of high school thing
12:36 🔗 kiska Anyway its 11pm, and I have to be up at 8am to mark ~80k exams in 3 weeks
12:38 🔗 twoTBHetz ahh ... i find the thought that students tests are marked by anything but the teacher horrible
12:38 🔗 kiska Don't worry I am cross checked with 4 other markers
12:39 🔗 twoTBHetz this is not my problem ...
12:39 🔗 kiska Eg A question worth 5 marks, and I give 3.4, the mark I give has to be ±3% of the other markers
12:40 🔗 kiska So in that example it would be 3.298 and 3.502 out 5 marks
12:41 🔗 twoTBHetz i suspect that you won't give me feedback on my doc then. When could i check back for that? (I tried to use it as an oppertunity to learn more about documenation).
12:41 🔗 kiska So what is this meant to say "How did better come on to being?" I am assuming you rushed though the process?
12:42 🔗 kiska Give me a few minutes so I can try and improve upon your doc
12:44 🔗 twoTBHetz kiska no it is my first time helping out
12:44 🔗 twoTBHetz feed back is appretiated
12:47 🔗 kiska I would suggest as an examiner looking at your document is to spend more time writing it. A lot of the issues I see are grammar and broken sentences. Like that example I posted earlier, what is that meant to say?
12:48 🔗 twoTBHetz oh ok ... the documentation was rushed ...
12:48 🔗 jodizzle ivan: I took a quick look at terastash. It does indeed seem like a lot of custom software.
12:49 🔗 jodizzle Kinda surprised by the use of Javascript also.
12:49 🔗 twoTBHetz I am talking about the file "better" which was published as the final list
12:49 🔗 kiska It reads very rushed, and the goal of documentation is to make sure other people understand what you have done. And whilst I know you have used sublist3r, what if I didn't?
12:50 🔗 kiska Then this sentence "sublist/sense/* is sublist/raw/* expect that i filtered out dead links via header reqests." makes no sense to me whatsoever
12:50 🔗 jodizzle ivan: I noticed the readme talks about rclone. I'm not super familiar with rclone, but is there a clear advantage to terastash over rclone?
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13:02 🔗 twoTBHetz kiska back
13:02 🔗 kiska ok
13:03 🔗 twoTBHetz i read what i missed
13:04 🔗 kiska twoTBHetz So with the limited time I have with your doc, I have sort of summarised it. Here it is: https://pad.riseup.net/p/oDrnpz31VOOa-keep
13:05 🔗 kiska Your more than welcome to edit the file.
13:05 🔗 twoTBHetz i wanted to say that the files in raw/* are the same as the files in * except that i threw a header request against each domain and removed the once which did not respond
13:05 🔗 twoTBHetz ok
13:06 🔗 kiska Also order is important as well. I believe you went in reverse order?
13:06 🔗 twoTBHetz Yep i did
13:07 🔗 kiska With documentation, you want to order what you did, in chronological order from first thing you did to last
13:08 🔗 kiska Its no good to the person reading it, if you make up some order that the reader doesn't know
13:10 🔗 kiska twoTBHetz here are some documentation principles: https://www.writethedocs.org/guide/writing/docs-principles/
13:15 🔗 kiska twoTBHetz: Anyway if you continue to write, I can possibly correct some grammar mistakes when I wake up in the morning
13:16 🔗 twoTBHetz thanks for taking the time
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16:57 🔗 ivan jodizzle: maybe just local metadata. rclone didn't exist when I wrote this, and I still haven't looked at it
16:57 🔗 ivan I have to maintain this until Google kicks me out just because I have so much data in it already, heh
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19:58 🔗 ivan does anyone have a list of influential twitter users, I'm preparing a second batch of users to archive
19:58 🔗 ivan there are too many twitter accounts :(
19:58 🔗 ivan I might as well add everyone that wikileaks is following
20:15 🔗 ivan that's https://gist.github.com/ivan/6cee6834f5c3a6cb7402836dbb860617 if anyone wants it
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21:53 🔗 eientei95 ivan: Add dril as well
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22:09 🔗 ivan I've got dril
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22:39 🔗 VoynichCr ivan: here is a list of 130k twitter accounts of notable people (people with Wikipedia article) https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Wikidata_lists
22:42 🔗 VoynichCr lol not found, transfer.sh link expired
22:43 🔗 JAA Should be somewhere in the ArchiveBot collection though.
22:43 🔗 JAA The file, not a snapshot of the transfer.sh URL.
22:44 🔗 JAA https://archive.org/download/archiveteam_archivebot_go_20180924220001/urls-transfer.sh-wikidata-twitter-133k.txt-shallow-20180922-142608-b6ug6-urls.txt
22:45 🔗 VoynichCr i have just found that the list isn't deduplicated
22:45 🔗 betamax ivan: another at-risk, but nonessential youtube account:
22:45 🔗 betamax https://www.youtube.com/slycoopermovie
22:46 🔗 betamax it's a film, so it's probably backed up to the hills, but it's onlt two videos (two versions of the trailer) and the 3D version is less-spread than the regular version
22:46 🔗 JAA VoynichCr: FYI, ArchiveBot/wpull does deduplicate.
22:48 🔗 VoynichCr JAA: good
22:51 🔗 ivan betamax: added
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