#archiveteam-ot 2018-12-17,Mon

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01:14 🔗 anarcat JAA: ah yes, sorry... unstable of course :) although it might be stable in ~a year if all goes well :)
01:14 🔗 anarcat voltagex_: hi!
01:19 🔗 voltagex_ anarcat: one day I want to learn Debian packaging
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10:47 🔗 Flashfire Hi
10:49 🔗 Greloom How's it going?
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21:16 🔗 JAA Damn: https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/1074695033234907147 <3
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22:57 🔗 SketchCow I see -ot has been living up to it
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23:23 🔗 ivan_ https://advent.morr.cc/2018/17
23:26 🔗 teej_ Chrome browsers.
23:26 🔗 teej_ Does Chromium do the same thing?
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23:29 🔗 Ascrod So teej_, I assume you use Firefox now?
23:29 🔗 teej_ Ascrod: Well sorta.
23:29 🔗 teej_ I don't like the way Mozilla Firefox is heading either.
23:29 🔗 Ascrod Same.
23:30 🔗 teej_ They're integrating useless stuff like the Pocket bookmark and whatnot.
23:30 🔗 teej_ I used to look up to Mozilla, but not anymore.
23:30 🔗 teej_ So I'm temporarily using Firefox, and trying to look for a better browser.
23:31 🔗 ivan_ does Chromium do what?
23:31 🔗 teej_ I've been using Waterfox too.
23:31 🔗 Ascrod I stopped using Firefox... apparently sometime in 2015, I can't remember when exactly.
23:31 🔗 ivan_ voltagex_: if you want to save yourself two years of finding out how bad Debian packaging is just head straight to NixOS
23:31 🔗 teej_ ivan_: Does Chromium still force users to log into Google and track users?
23:32 🔗 ivan_ teej_: that was reverted even in Chrome, there's an option to not share the browser login with the cookie jar
23:32 🔗 ivan_ Chrome 69 was bad, 70 added the option
23:32 🔗 ivan_ we're on 71 now
23:32 🔗 voltagex_ Thanks but no thanks, ivan_
23:33 🔗 teej_ ivan_: I can't use NixOS right now because the package manager uses a lot of memory on my Raspberry Pi. And Nix/NixOS/Nixpkgs naming is confusing.
23:33 🔗 teej_ It's not optimized.
23:33 🔗 ivan_ hmm yes that is a problem, I noticed that when doing -i instead of -iA
23:34 🔗 ivan_ I'm pretty sure you can get away with never evaluating e.g. all-packages, do other things use all the memory too?
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23:36 🔗 teej_ ivan_: Well I tried getting help from the folks at NixOS, and they said they can't do anything about it right now. They are working on fixing other problems before they will start optimizing things.
23:37 🔗 ivan_ ah too bad :(
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23:59 🔗 ranma can you boot (win10/linux) OS installs off USB3 sticks?

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