[00:11] *** s4t has joined #archiveteam-ot [00:23] hook54321: I believe chfoo [00:23] love the image [00:27] *** terorie has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [00:27] *** terorie has joined #archiveteam-ot [00:28] arkiver: Me too. I would like to see more of those. It reminds me of Portal. [00:28] feel free to release your creative self :) [00:29] yeah, it's a great image. I don't see it used anywhere on the wiki anymore though :/ [00:30] https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Dev/Infrastructure [00:30] ah [00:33] *** ubahn has quit IRC (Quit: ubahn) [00:59] Look at this: https://motus-labs.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Oct-03-2018-13-38-46-1.gif [00:59] That's interesting. [01:32] *** ubahn has joined #archiveteam-ot [01:35] *** s4t has quit IRC (Quit: s4t) [01:36] *** Dj-Wawa has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [01:38] *** boutique has joined #archiveteam-ot [01:41] *** Ahzzmandi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [01:57] *** anarcat has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [01:59] *** Stilett0 has joined #archiveteam-ot [01:59] *** anarcat has joined #archiveteam-ot [02:00] *** Stiletto has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [02:05] *** Stiletto has joined #archiveteam-ot [02:05] *** Stilett0 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [02:23] *** terorie_ has joined #archiveteam-ot [02:27] *** terorie has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [02:34] *** ubahn has quit IRC (Quit: ubahn) [02:39] *** boutique has quit IRC (Quit: hhhhhhh) [03:16] *** terorie_ has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [03:16] *** terorie has joined #archiveteam-ot [03:22] *** terorie has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [03:30] *** DEGAUSS has joined #archiveteam-ot [03:36] *** Stilett0 has joined #archiveteam-ot [03:38] *** Stiletto has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [04:11] *** odemg has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [04:19] *** terorie has joined #archiveteam-ot [04:23] *** odemg has joined #archiveteam-ot [04:23] *** terorie has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [04:29] *** wp494 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [04:30] *** wp494 has joined #archiveteam-ot [04:30] *** svchfoo3 sets mode: +o wp494 [04:33] *** marked has joined #archiveteam-ot [04:34] *** terorie has joined #archiveteam-ot [04:38] *** terorie has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [04:56] *** DEGAUSS has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [05:08] *** kbtoo__ has joined #archiveteam-ot [05:08] I wonder if it'l be like that time IA did a 24hour webathon and there doesn't appear to be a clip of the whole thing. [05:09] kbtoo__: Did you see the gif I messaged earlier? [05:10] no? [05:11] 19:59:24 Look at this: https://motus-labs.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Oct-03-2018-13-38-46-1.gif [05:11] kbtoo__: ^ [05:11] Isn't that interesting? [05:12] Yes but I don't know what it is. [05:13] *** edsphone has joined #archiveteam-ot [05:13] kbtoo__: It's a gear drive, I think. [05:15] I was so mesmerized by Jason's stream i tried to resume a save-stated VM on a different architecture laptop with insufficient RAM [05:15] It instantly sent me to swap-hell [05:15] looks like it's more clockwork than gears [05:16] Actually it's a non-gear drive. [05:16] *** yano has joined #archiveteam-ot [05:16] It's designed not to use gears. [05:17] edsphone: How much swap do you have? [05:17] Did you have to restart your laptop? [05:17] I shut it down, and moved the disk back to the original machine, like i should have in the first place [05:18] It was essentially halted [05:18] I could move my cursor a few pixels every 30s [05:18] *** marked has left [05:18] Lol. [05:18] I'm home for the holidays, so i had to cludge together a working system [05:19] At least you have a working system. [05:19] Better than nothing. [05:19] It's not a horrible system for server stuff [05:19] I should get more system stuff. [05:19] Still a reasonable amount of power left in a Core 2 Quad with 8GB if DDR2 [05:20] That's good. [05:20] More than enough to run a shit ton of crawl instances [05:20] Just no working IGPU suppot at the moment [05:20] Which is really annoying [05:21] Integrated Intel GPU? [05:21] * kbtoo__ even has P4 machines running crawlers. [05:21] Yeah [05:21] Intel is really far behind with their GPUs. [05:21] It's an old one on a C2Q [05:21] How did it stop working? [05:21] Do you need a dedicated GPU to get a video output? [05:22] It's working, just using mesa drivers without much in the way of acceleration [05:22] It's slloooooooow [05:22] Oh right. [05:22] speaking of which they need a git pull now... [05:22] Those drivers. [05:22] Why does Linux suffer so much with drivers? [05:23] It's fine for most things [05:23] I also mostly do it to myself [05:23] I think it should have the best support, given that it's free. [05:23] I forgot my boot USB back at the college [05:23] edsphone: You finished finals early? [05:24] Standard college ending here is around last week [05:24] Oh. [05:24] I guess every college is different. [05:25] I had my exams two weeks earlier than that because my program spends the final two weeks in the theatre running technical for the musical theatre students [05:26] Oh interesting. Are you interested in musical theatre? [05:27] Just curious. What do you study? [05:27] If you don't mind me asking... [05:28] Entertainment Technology [05:29] We're the techies, they're the talent [05:29] It's a very mutual relationship with the other program [05:29] edsphone: Oh do you handle the lights? Or the effects? [05:32] *** MagicHack has joined #archiveteam-ot [05:35] What does --max-items do? From the description it's supposed to shut down after completing a set number but it doesn't seem to work with --concurrent [05:36] *** Stilett0 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [05:37] *** Stiletto has joined #archiveteam-ot [05:39] Personally I'm more of a lighting technician, yes. [05:40] Sorry for the delay, trying to update my machines at the sane time Google's package mirror goes down [05:44] *** edsphone has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [05:45] I don't like Google. [05:46] *** edsphone has joined #archiveteam-ot [05:51] *** horkermon has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [05:59] *** edsphone has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [06:00] *** Stilett0 has joined #archiveteam-ot [06:03] *** Stiletto has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 360 seconds) [06:04] *** edgivesup has joined #archiveteam-ot [06:04] I think my phone is done flipping out [06:05] Sorry if anyone's sent anything recently [06:06] edgivesup: Oh. Do you use your phone for IRC? [06:07] At the moment [06:07] Ehh, lemme launch a CLI client [06:10] *** edisded has joined #archiveteam-ot [06:10] *** edisded has left [06:10] Greatttt [06:10] That only does one channel per instance [06:10] what phone? [06:10] Why are all the default irc clients on ubuntu shitty [06:10] use IRCCloud? [06:12] Dling [06:15] edgivesup: Wait, did I understand you corectly, you are going college to become a lighting technician? [06:20] *** edgivesup has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [06:23] *** edgivesup has joined #archiveteam-ot [06:23] jut: yes [06:24] Is the program any good ? Because one of our universities has a program like this, but in a year of working I haven't met anyone who finished it [06:27] I like my program, but mine is currently shutting down for a bit [06:27] No new admissions [06:28] Which is going to be really fun next year when there's 8 of use building, painting, rigging, lighting, wiring, operating flys, operating LX, operating audio, followspots, etc [06:29] One program encompases all of that?? [06:34] Yeah [06:34] Three year program [06:34] College wants to cut it down to two [06:37] Which will probably sacrifice set building and painting [06:40] WOW, ok, but two years seems, little, how much practical experience do you get? I mean, I spent a year actualy working weekends and days that aren't busy, and there is still a whole lot that I learn every day [06:41] In the context of a college, you have courses to teach you these things, as well as the actual events we have to run [06:43] It also helped that i did a lot of this through my old highschool's theatre [06:44] *** jesso has quit IRC (Quit: jesso) [06:45] *** jesso has joined #archiveteam-ot [06:45] *** jesso has quit IRC (Client Quit) [06:46] Yeah I'm still at highschool I can't Image having my job if I ended up in a different highschool, we don't have a teacher responsible, [06:47] So students do everything [06:50] *** s4t has joined #archiveteam-ot [06:55] *** Mateon1 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [06:56] *** Mateon1 has joined #archiveteam-ot [07:01] *** schbirid has joined #archiveteam-ot [07:13] *** edgivesup has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [07:14] *** edgivesup has joined #archiveteam-ot [07:15] *** s4t has quit IRC (Quit: s4t) [07:28] *** horkermon has joined #archiveteam-ot [07:34] *** Specular has joined #archiveteam-ot [07:35] this tumblr thing has to be the most buzz online I've seen around an archiving effort in some time [07:36] suddenly everyone is super concerned over their porn disappearing, to a fervor unlike most things :p [07:53] *** edgivesup has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [08:02] *** surewhyno has joined #archiveteam-ot [08:03] TIL there are protected/private WordPress blogs: http://building21377529309.wordpress.com/ [08:08] *** horkermon has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [08:10] *** horkermon has joined #archiveteam-ot [08:17] *** horkermon has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [08:23] *** horkermon has joined #archiveteam-ot [08:31] *** schbirid has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [08:35] *** terorie has joined #archiveteam-ot [08:40] *** terorie has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [09:09] *** m007a83_ has joined #archiveteam-ot [09:10] *** m007a83 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [09:11] *** m007a83 has joined #archiveteam-ot [09:14] *** m007a83_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [09:14] *** BlueMax has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [09:15] *** adinbied has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:17] *** adinbied has joined #archiveteam-ot [10:35] *** terorie has joined #archiveteam-ot [11:04] *** terorie has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [11:34] *** surewhyno has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [11:56] *** Mateon1 has quit IRC (Quit: Mateon1) [12:00] *** Mateon1 has joined #archiveteam-ot [12:06] *** terorie has joined #archiveteam-ot [12:22] *** Ascrod has joined #archiveteam-ot [12:28] *** terorie has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [13:03] *** Ascrod has quit IRC (Quit: Ambassador 1.1.0 [UXP 4.1.7/20181218224734]) [13:26] *** wp494 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [13:28] *** wp494 has joined #archiveteam-ot [13:28] *** svchfoo1 sets mode: +o wp494 [13:47] *** terorie has joined #archiveteam-ot [13:50] *** degauss has joined #archiveteam-ot [13:53] Hi, I wonder if I could get some advice on online archiving, please? [13:53] I have a particular task, which is proving difficult. [13:59] Use more words please degauss [13:59] Don't ask to ask; just ask! :-) [14:00] Ok. I'm trying to archive a site that consists of user-made web pages. For example, MakeYourSite.com/User/YourWebSite. The MakeYourSite.com [14:01] ONLY allows access to specific user pages, and gives me a 403 error on recursive wget attempts. I'm trying to find a way to get the whole site [14:01] before it goes down, it's been up since 1999. [14:02] The site is users.globalnet.co.uk [14:04] I have no idea what the individual user pages are called (I'm not that good...) but I'd like to save them, just in case. [14:09] Can you find this site on the wayback machine? [14:09] I can't get that URL to load. [14:10] The URL will only load specific user pages, so unless you know every page you want, it won't show anything. [14:10] Userpages do work: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~loxias/ [14:11] I haven't tried Wayback. I have saved the pages I know, but I can't get the ones I don't know about yet. [14:14] *** VerifiedJ has joined #archiveteam-ot [14:28] *** ubahn has joined #archiveteam-ot [14:40] degauss: try changing your user agent to not be wget [14:40] if you want WARCs, grab-site does them and pretends to be Firefox [14:41] I've tried using firefox, mozilla, chrome etc.. No luck. I'll try grab-site. I'm still a bit of a noob. [14:41] * as user agents. [14:43] degauss: Have they announced a shutdown, or are you just (rightly) worried it might disappear? [14:46] I'm just a bit concerned. It's hard to destroy a book, but an entire 90s online culture can disappear in the time it takes to plug a dodgy vacuum cleaner in. [14:48] The company (globalnet) has been bought out many times, it's just a matter of time before someone notices the old customer sites are still up. GDPR and all, they might pull the plug. [14:48] Sorry, did someone say something is going down and we don't have a backup? [14:54] I'm not sure it is going down, but it might. I'll have a bash with grab-site and see how I get on. [14:54] Yeah, and several such services were shut down recently, e.g. TalkTalk in the UK and the ones hosted by Vodafone in New Zeland. [14:55] It's only a matter of time until they disappear entirely. [14:55] (GeoCities Japan is also shutting down in a few months.) [15:01] Speaking of panic... is there someway to get notified when a new project is initiated? I don't always follow all the AT channels that closely. [15:03] Jens: #archiveteam is the best place probably. I'm sure you could script something using the projects.json file, but that won't necessarily tell you when a project is actually starting. Or you could use the wiki RSS feed and filter it aggressively, but then you'd only get it with a delay because the wiki isn't usually updated immediately. [15:04] Have to pay closer attention to IRC then. [15:13] Jens if you use IRC cloud you can get a ping setup and a push on your mobile [15:14] Quassel 4 life. [15:17] doesnt purple bot annouce when a mainproject changes, you could do a ping for that maybe? [15:20] On that topic, I find it really sad that there's apparently *still* no way to set up push notifications on a self-hosted setup. I found Pushjet which is dead/unmaintained/broken/unmaintained, and even that uses Google Cloud Messaging. That's it (last time I checked a few months ago). :-| [15:21] purplebot announces wiki page changes through notices to -bs. [15:22] When it comes to phones, I'm an old fart. I only use mine for calls/messaging 95% of the time. [15:23] Oh, looks like there were some developments in the past two months: https://github.com/Pushjet/Pushjet-Server-Api/issues/35#issuecomment-431718775 [15:24] Namely, Pushjet was forked to PushFish, and that Android client uses MQTT rather than GCM for message delivery. Sweet, looks like I need to take a look at that again. [15:25] Link for the lazy: https://gitlab.com/PushFish [15:25] Anyway, to get back to the topic, what sort of notification are you looking for then, Jens? [15:26] I dunno... just something that might trigger me on IRC or something. [15:27] [alert!] Yahoo is torching another site. Fire up your VMs!!! [15:28] So when everything's ready for running, you mean? [15:29] [alert!] the internet is burning, as usual [15:30] Or before. Shit an alert that shit's going down with AT. [15:31] *hums* We didn't start the fire... It was already burning Since the world's been turning..." [15:31] * anarcat cues midnight oil [15:31] Yeah, that's #archiveteam. [15:31] Unless clueless people walk in and ask random questions before being sent to -bs or here. :-) [15:32] And we could do a better job actually announcing it. But yeah, set up some fancy highlights on that channel probably. [15:32] Yeah I would like some kind of system like Jens is describing, "Hey fire lasers" "Hey update your vps or you're burning dollars for no benefits" [15:33] Anyway, I have to go take care of christmas related things irl. Later. [15:33] That's exactly what #archiveteam is supposed to be. Well, and "Shit, X is going down. We need to organise!" [15:34] JAA: I didn't know until I was yelled at. [15:35] Maybe the topic can be more specific? [15:35] Unfortunately, topics are extremely limited in length on EFNet, so we can't really add anything. [15:48] Noob question: what's -bs [15:49] #archiveteam-bs [15:49] Similarly, we're in -ot. [15:49] We're just too lazy to write the full channel names. [16:01] *** degauss has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [16:14] *** schbirid has joined #archiveteam-ot [16:17] *** degauss has joined #archiveteam-ot [16:30] *** edgivesup has joined #archiveteam-ot [16:37] *** edgivesup has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [16:47] *** ubahn has quit IRC (Quit: ubahn) [17:03] *** edisded_ has joined #archiveteam-ot [17:06] *** Specular has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [17:06] *** ubahn has joined #archiveteam-ot [17:10] Now I have the "We didn't start the fire" song stuck in my head. [17:16] Oh fuck you [17:17] Now I've got it in my head [17:34] *** ubahn has quit IRC (Quit: ubahn) [17:58] Hi all, does anyone have experience / knowledge with Java/Smali and reverse engineering Android apps? I've made some headway but have hit a wall [18:02] adinbied: Well, there is a reverse engineering channel on Freenode. And there's an android channel as well. [18:08] So many Sears links are 404s. [18:09] Thanks, I'll check that out [18:20] *** s4t has joined #archiveteam-ot [18:29] *** jrwr has quit IRC () [18:50] Bah, I'm giving up on Portainer [18:50] What a mess to set up [18:52] *** terorie has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [18:52] *** terorie has joined #archiveteam-ot [18:57] *** terorie has quit IRC (Client Quit) [19:00] Sears pulled an eatons, 20 years after Eatons [19:07] I got most of sears a few weeks ago. Not sure if I managed to get all the requisites etc though. [19:16] *** horkermon has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [19:17] *** horkermon has joined #archiveteam-ot [19:22] Is there something like #archivebot that everyone can use? Sometimes I find small sites that aren't the in the archive (or pages are missing) and it's annoying to save page by page [20:09] *** edisded_ is now known as edisded [20:18] *** degauss has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [20:43] *** s4t has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:46] *** BlueMax has joined #archiveteam-ot [21:03] yes [21:03] archivebot [21:03] If you don't have access to do it yourself, usually asking someone in the channel will get it queued [21:07] *** trvz has joined #archiveteam-ot [21:08] wtf are these clothes: https://ia801507.us.archive.org/19/items/archiveteam_tumblr_20181210134409/david-karp.jpg [21:18] *** jrwr has joined #archiveteam-ot [21:18] *** svchfoo1 sets mode: +o jrwr [21:22] *** bithippo has joined #archiveteam-ot [21:29] *** SimpBrain has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [22:04] *** ats has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [22:27] *** degauss has joined #archiveteam-ot [22:30] *** wp494 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [22:31] *** wp494 has joined #archiveteam-ot [22:31] *** svchfoo3 sets mode: +o wp494 [22:33] *** boutique has joined #archiveteam-ot [22:58] *** VerifiedJ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [23:15] *** boutique has quit IRC (Quit: slep) [23:36] *** ats has joined #archiveteam-ot