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Why did feiticeir talk about "racist republicans" in #archiveteam? I don't see anything resembling such a thing in the channel. Am I out of the loop? |
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Flashfire |
No clue might have something to do with the code is free speech web page that has gun blueprints |
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edishere |
WHY is efnet so fucking anal about everything |
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edishere |
Try to connect to the main server but i can't because my one machine in my college's IP range had been compromised at some point in time |
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edishere |
Alright fine, I'll use my cellular data. No wait, can't. Apparently i can't use that IP range either. |
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ivan_ |
tried irc.choopa.net? |
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edishere |
Yeah that fixed most of ny problems |
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edishere |
Except both efnet and choopa are now getting mad at my trying to connect through IRC cloud |
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edishere |
So I'm back to using AndroIRC until that presumably gets mad again |
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ivan_ |
gosh we should just get ourselves a channel in the internet archive slack |
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ivan_ |
start burning those cores |
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ivan_ |
anyway there are some free znc bouncer services |
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edishere |
The network has anal concurrency limits |
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edishere |
I was already using IRCloud so that i don't miss messages |
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MR9K |
I use irc.underworld.no (I also use TheLounge on a Hetzner box in Germany so that's also something) |
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Jens |
We should move to a proper IRC network, like Freenode. |
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hook54321 |
what's wrong with EFNet? :P |
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psi |
hook54321 https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/O8PrWdkP/ |
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hook54321 |
oh hmm |
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JAA |
Everything is wrong with EFNet. |
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psi |
I like Rizon, but maybe that's just because of the idle RPG channel |
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JAA |
We should host our own IRC network on the warrior instances. :-) |
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psi |
blockchain-based messages |
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Jens |
Freenode has IdleRPG: <IdleBot> JensRex: Level 79 Sofa; Status: Online; TTL: 93 days, 01:49:39; Idled: 891 days, 15:01:43; Item sum: 1225 |
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psi |
Oh |
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jrwr |
Its been brought up before |
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jrwr |
If I remember right, it was a hard no last time I brought it up |
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jrwr |
SketchCow does have a discord server |
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Raccoon |
efnet servers to try until one works. irc.servercentral.net irc.inet.tele.dk efnet.port80.se irc.underworld.no irc.homelien.no irc.mzima.net irc.efnet.nl irc.Prison.NET efnet.portlane.se irc.colosolutions.net irc.choopa.net irc.nordunet.se irc2.choopa.net |
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Raccoon |
try both ports +6697 and +9999 (+ means SSL) |
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jrwr |
irc.servercentral.net |
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jrwr |
thats the one I'm on |
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JAA |
I'm on irc.colosolutions.net because it's the only one that lets you join 100 channels from one connection. All other servers have lower limits (which is why my backup is split over two servers). |
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Kaz |
that explains why half the time irccloud reconnects and knocks out half my channels.. |
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jrwr |
I vote for a move to discord |
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jrwr |
:) |
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jrwr |
Better ACLs and more channels |
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JAA |
Now with 100 % more proprietary software. |
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JAA |
No thanks. |
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psi |
IRC is fine, just a move away from EFnet is a step to be considered |
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Jens |
Discord is the absolute worst. |
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jrwr |
Well, The Frontend is "Open" source JAA |
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jrwr |
its just a big fat blob of Javascript |
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jrwr |
We can run our own IRCd, with blackjack and hookers |
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schbirid |
zulip rules |
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astrid |
i've suggested archiveteam actually running our own efnet server and gotten laughed at |
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astrid |
but |
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astrid |
think about it |
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astrid |
wouldn't it be funny if we archived irc |
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astrid |
not saved all the messages, but, like, as a medium of communication |
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jrwr |
Go back to Usegroups |
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jrwr |
Usenet FTW |
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MR9K |
irc.archiveteam.org - "WE WILL ARCHIVE YOUR IRC" |
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JAA |
Newsgroups are cool, but that's email-like, not chat. |
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MR9K |
:P |
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jrwr |
Just got to send the emails faster |
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jrwr |
We do have the issue of us being in 100+ channels |
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jrwr |
I know Im at my limit right now |
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astrid |
yea if we ran our own irc we could make the limit really big |
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astrid |
bc that's set by the server |
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jrwr |
I know Freenode has a 100 channel limit as well |
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astrid |
but it'd be nicer to interconnect with efnet |
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astrid |
imo |
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jrwr |
and a 50 channel founder limit |
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JAA |
Running our own EFNet server would be nice, but it wouldn't really solve the problems we're having. We'd still have to deal with the network instability (unless everyone connects to our server, but then that's a single point of failure), and we'd still not have NickServ & Co. to manage +o in a more sane way. |
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jrwr |
Yep |
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astrid |
if you run a server then the server opers can /samode to fix channel modes |
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astrid |
not sure if efnet rules allow that but i think they do |
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jrwr |
no EFNET |
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jrwr |
not* |
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astrid |
if we go the efnet route then nobody would have to move |
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astrid |
do you know how hard it is to get 100 people to move irc networks |
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JAA |
That's definitely true. |
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astrid |
sorry, 300 |
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jrwr |
Having bridges would help (sameroom) |
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astrid |
ugh i hate irc bridges |
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JAA |
Hell, it's hard enough to get a dozen people to move their arse out of an op-less channel. |
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astrid |
lol yes |
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* |
jrwr is over here with 40 discord servers |
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jrwr |
One of them that I manage has 100k people in it |
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astrid |
the most effective way is to /ban *!*@*, kick everyone out with the new location as the kick message, and occupy the channel for a few months (!) with the ban set |
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jrwr |
just have it ban, kick with message and unban after a hour, then K/B again if they rejoin |
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astrid |
oh i was talking about doing it without a tool |
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astrid |
<-- lazy |
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astrid |
but, i am strongly in favor of getting in touch with the efnet opers |
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astrid |
and adding a server that we can control |
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jrwr |
So, we would need to partner with a IRCop really |
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astrid |
yea |
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jrwr |
since running a ircd on efnet is pretty hard |
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jrwr |
and costly |
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astrid |
costly how? |
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astrid |
i have a friend with an AS#, a /24, and physical machines sitting on an IX ... i think he'd be up for providing the physical setting of it |
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jrwr |
Public IRC servers are prone to DDoS attacks, and the uplinks depending on users can be upwards of 100M(BigB)/s |
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astrid |
hmmm |
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astrid |
ok |
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jrwr |
and overall is a PITA to run |
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astrid |
aye |
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jrwr |
now a somewhat private IRC network just for AT is doable |
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jrwr |
but I will say internally, the IA uses slack |
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astrid |
i know that much |
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jrwr |
and JS uses Discord for strange science |
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astrid |
for my part, i won't actively participate in any chat network that i can't use from weechat |
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jrwr |
there is libpurple support for discord (thats pidgin) |
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astrid |
yeah that sounds like a ton of work |
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astrid |
i've tried to get libpurple to coexist in weechat and it's not fun |
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jrwr |
lol |
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jrwr |
https://github.com/reactiflux/discord-irc |
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astrid |
ugh |
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jrwr |
personally, I use IRCCloud for all my IRC needs |
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JAA |
Ew, bridges. |
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jrwr |
Ya, not a fan |
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jrwr |
Hang on there is a XKCD for this |
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jrwr |
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/team_chat.png |
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JAA |
:-) |
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jrwr |
2078: He announces that he's finally making the jump from screen+irssi to tmux+weechat. |
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astrid |
that was me a few years ago ... but i still use screen |
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jrwr |
I still like screen over tmux |
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JAA |
tmux/irssi here. |
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astrid |
wow, bucking the trend JAA |
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jrwr |
I did something very evil at a redteam contest |
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astrid |
i use tmux at work because screen kept segfaulting on me (!??) |
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JAA |
lol |
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astrid |
oh and one other reason |
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jrwr |
I was attacking student ran networks, replaced all instances of tmux with screen |
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astrid |
tmux has synchronize-panes !!! |
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jrwr |
flat out pissed off the guys handling the linux boxes |
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jrwr |
it was too funny |
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astrid |
which is fantastic for dual-debugging: two gdbs, one on working code, one on broken code; step them at the same time and look for differences |
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jrwr |
also didn't help I was pipeing /dev/urandom into /dev/dsp |
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astrid |
jrwr: lol but i have a tmux config that makes it act like screen |
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jrwr |
and if they tried to run screen it ran reboot |
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astrid |
why listen to /dev/urandom when you can listen to /dev/sda and get some extremely distracting sound patterns |
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jrwr |
lol |
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jrwr |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8nVTRyRRg8 |
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JAA |
astrid: Oh, that sounds great re: GDB/tmux synchronize-panes. I'll have to keep that in mind. |
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astrid |
JAA: works for me because $work has a very complex thingy and unittests to exercise it in detail, but it's not clear _why_ something is different |
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JAA |
Could probably go even further and automatically compare the pane contents and step until they become different or something. |
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astrid |
eh, i crash gdb often enough already anyway |
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astrid |
and the stacks are deep enough that i can overstep, restart, and step-into instead of step-over |
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astrid |
i can usually find the first point of difference in under an hour, which is entirely sufficient |
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jrwr |
oh and pipeing /dev/uranom to TTYs is fun to fuck with at console users |
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astrid |
very |
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astrid |
or: yes ctrl-G > /dev/tty |
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astrid |
ding ding ding ding ding |
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jrwr |
lol |
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jrwr |
I was already piping /dev/urandom into the dsp already, and it was a all in one |
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jrwr |
so... THEY COULDNT TURN IT OFF |
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astrid |
lol |
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JAA |
So I'm trying to find the EFNet server rules, but it appears that they're only accessible to server ops. Meh... |
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jrwr |
http://www.efnet.org/?module=docs&doc=6 |
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JAA |
The FAQs mention though that server ops can't op anyone in channels unless they're already ops. They can invoke CHANFIX, but that's... only partially useful. |
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jrwr |
Yep |
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jrwr |
Ive never ever seen them fix ops by hand |
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jrwr |
they may have ACLs in place that prevent that from happening too |
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psi |
riot.im is also a possibility, or have the AT set up its own instance |
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psi |
And you can bridge it with IRC for those sad few that want to stay behind |
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jrwr |
rocketchat is a good open source self hosted slack as well |
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JAA |
There are plenty of self-hosted chat solutions nowadays, but which of them support a distributed setup where there is no single point of failure? |
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psi |
(and while you're at it with setting up federation servers, let's get an AT mastodon instance ;) ) |
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jrwr |
federated irc |
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jrwr |
hrm |
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jrwr |
lulz, Jabber does this already |
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jrwr |
wow, EFNet only has 19k users connected |
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astrid |
relevantly ... https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DIJPimgHfQeL0Z0RRZR8T7fkcC37Iq0ZRqqiiXrsUeY/edit?usp=sharing |
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astrid |
source: whenever my client reconnects it gets the current user count |
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jrwr |
you can really see the hayday of IRC |
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jrwr |
I think freenode is seeing shrinkage as well |
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astrid |
i think that the "heyday" is before 2013, jrwr |
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astrid |
freenode is on the second tab of that spreadsheet |
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jrwr |
Pretty steady |
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jrwr |
I don't think freenode would work as well, their services while great, we need to spread out to IRC channels per project, and we have lots and lots of projects |
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astrid |
yeah. |
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jrwr |
to get a move going, the main OPs would need to start it, mostly SC or Arkive r, H Cross, JA A, Ka z, and me together |
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jrwr |
My official vote from a community and usability standpoint is Discord |
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schbirid |
jrwr: zulip is so much nicer than rocketchat imo. it has threads! |
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psi |
While I do think it's a halfway decent idea, Discord has opt-out channels rather than IRC's opt-in channels, which I don't think is the greatest idea for our particular goal |
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schbirid |
i hate discord |
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astrid |
i just updated that spreadsheet to the current day, btw |
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jrwr |
@psi it has access levels you can use for a replacement for opt-in -- but I do agree |
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astrid |
it's been pretty stable |
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psi |
jrwr: If you have to implement that, you're using the wrong tool for the job |
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psi |
It has shown that IRC is the correct tool, but EFnet might not be the right network |
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jrwr |
Ya, I somewhat agree in that aspect |
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jrwr |
but, finding a good stabel network is hard nowadays |
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jrwr |
stable* |
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jrwr |
We are a very large and spread out project, we have some pain points that IRC causes that is forsure |
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psi |
I do agree with that |
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jrwr |
Slack is a Ok choice, but I don't like the requirement of registering it |
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jrwr |
*to use it |
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jrwr |
Discord offers anon users, I do like that part -- Other offshoots are self hosted and we might run into issues |
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jrwr |
A good talk on issues that come up are SC's video on how he got sued for 2 billion dollars |
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jrwr |
I would like something like Mastodon for IRC |
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jrwr |
But apparently they're either terrible or they don't exist |
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jrwr |
Why don't we make a version of irc with machine learning backed by blockchain technology |
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* |
Kaz twitches |
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jrwr |
And we can host it using function as a service |
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Kaz |
./kb jrwr |
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jrwr |
That way we can synergize our synergies |
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jrwr |
And then pivot are workflows to become agile |
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jrwr |
Our* |
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hook54321 |
Neither Discord or Slack allow people to use unofficial clients, so I dislike using them. |
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jrwr |
Slack does amusing one right now |
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jrwr |
I'm using |
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hook54321 |
oh. I thought it's a against their ToS |
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psi |
IRCCloud can also connect to Slack, for one |
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hook54321 |
I'm gonna be moving away from IRCCloud soon |
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20:29
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hook54321 |
Once I get Quassel IRC setup |
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psi |
IRCCloud is the only way I can connect to IRC at work so yea |
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jrwr |
Slack does support third-party clients it said so on the API documentation |
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jrwr |
In all reality I would just like an IRC that has services |
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psi |
Sure, but we do need one that allows a TON of concurrent channels per user |
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jrwr: I don't think Mastodon's structure would work well for a chat. It's a great design for content distribution, but chat is all about real-time messaging. And the main downside is that there's a single point of failure for each user - the instance that you're registering with. |
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jrwr |
Well I mean you can argue the same with IRC one hub goes down there goes the neighborhood |
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JAA |
Oh sure, I never said IRC's solution is perfect. :-) |
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hook54321 |
Not anyone can make an official hub for a network though, right? |
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* |
Kaz still likes the warriors-run-an-ircd idea |
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Kaz |
reliability be damned |
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20:46
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JAA |
lol yeah, that would work extremely well. :-P |
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psi |
Only the best ideas here at ArchiveTeam HQ |
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astrid |
archiveteam has evolved in irc, it would not be able to thrive in another chat medium |
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astrid |
archiveteam has grown in efnet, it would be very different in a different chatnet |
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astrid |
er, swap the first clause of both of those sentences with each other |
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astrid |
or something |
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HCross |
IRC Blockchain ™️ |
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astrid |
hard no |
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hook54321 |
I feel like if we were on freenode way too many people would be involved. Like, it's good that people want to be involved, but I can see it going negatively. |
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astrid |
aw, dang, my irssi logs didn't capture the server hello stuff so i don't have numbers prior to when i was using weechat |
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jrwr still votes for Discord |
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astrid |
you move to discorb, you lose me |
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JAA |
^ |
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astrid |
:( |
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blockchain relay chat sounds like a cool idea but not for any productive reason |
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