#archiveteam-ot 2019-03-26,Tue

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00:01 πŸ”— marked it would have be to be a solar flare directed at earth then to be discussing worst case scenario
00:07 πŸ”— marked there used to be a lab in coloardo that measured bit flips from cosmic radiation, but my google-fu fails me
00:37 πŸ”— marked this looks like a fun read but completely out of date, tape vs disk: https://libraries.ucsd.edu/chronopolis/_files/publications/dt_cost.pdf
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01:03 πŸ”— Flashfire So I tried to swear off piracy of movies but this movie is proving impossible to find a legal digital copy
01:09 πŸ”— marked there should be a database of where you can send money for those who want to repent
01:10 πŸ”— Flashfire I agree. I am sorry I pirated a movie a few years ago. This $1 donation says I am sorry. Especially when I cant find the movie anywhere
01:10 πŸ”— Flashfire I just want to watch some classic horror damn it
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02:16 πŸ”— Kaz is this a problem? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/JwvRPxTi/image.png
02:17 πŸ”— Flashfire She'll be right mate
02:23 πŸ”— Flashfire http://www.sz-beh.com/content/type/61/id/7020442/ does this work for no one or?
02:24 πŸ”— Kaz DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN
02:25 πŸ”— Flashfire Alright just checking if it was just me
02:25 πŸ”— marked has anyone played with filecoin ?
02:26 πŸ”— marked if i read stats right, the test net is puny, but maybe premature to judge
02:26 πŸ”— Flashfire No but it looks interesting
02:27 πŸ”— Flashfire I can also see it going badly very quickly
02:31 πŸ”— marked good point, I didn't think of malicious actors until now
02:32 πŸ”— Flashfire You store some nudes there for whatever reason and someone breaks into the encryption and suddenly has your photos. You put photos of your family up there and someone does a system wipe on there computer and wipes that data as well
02:33 πŸ”— marked the second one was suppos to have been handled by automatic replication
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09:17 πŸ”— eientei95 https://killedbygoogle.com/
09:17 πŸ”— eientei95 Flashfire: What movie
09:18 πŸ”— Flashfire Zombie Flesh Eaters eientei95
09:18 πŸ”— Flashfire AKA zombi 2
09:18 πŸ”— Flashfire just trying to avoid piracy
09:20 πŸ”— eientei95 Flashfire: Digital or physical
09:20 πŸ”— Flashfire Digital
09:21 πŸ”— Flashfire Shipping is shit to australia
09:21 πŸ”— eientei95 > This title is currently unavailable
09:21 πŸ”— eientei95 > Our agreements with the content provider don’t allow purchases of this title at this time.
09:22 πŸ”— Flashfire I know I checked everywhere for australia
09:22 πŸ”— Flashfire Its available on Kanopy but not through the library i go to
09:23 πŸ”— eientei95 https://www.amazon.com/Zombie-2-Disc-Ultimate-Tisa-Farrow/dp/B005CU5O72/ " This item ships to Australia. Want it Monday, April 1? Order within 9 hrs 6 mins and choose AmazonGlobal Priority Shipping at checkout."
09:26 πŸ”— eientei95 https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1057/9781137276506_4 Semi-related
09:27 πŸ”— Flashfire The film has an interesting history
09:28 πŸ”— eientei95 Flashfire: https://www.amazon.com/Zombie-Tisa-Farrow/dp/B0060GV0CA/ Amazon Prime Video that actually works
09:32 πŸ”— jodizzle !status
09:32 πŸ”— jodizzle oops
09:33 πŸ”— eientei95 lol gg
09:34 πŸ”— jodizzle My first time making that mistake too
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12:10 πŸ”— JAA Flashfire: Relevant: https://www.theoatmeal.com/comics/game_of_thrones
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14:18 πŸ”— JAA https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/03/music-labels-sue-charter-complain-that-high-internet-speeds-fuel-piracy/
14:18 πŸ”— JAA "The lawsuit also complains that Charter helps its subscribers pirate music by selling packages with higher Internet speeds."
14:18 πŸ”— JAA *facepalm*
14:25 πŸ”— kiska higher internet speeds =/= piracy
14:25 πŸ”— MrRadar2 LOL, that's an argumetn I'd expect from the music industry in 1999, not 2019
14:27 πŸ”— JAA To be fair, it does seem like the music industry's stuck in the 90s.
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14:44 πŸ”— ATrescue Something I hate about YouTube's removal of AutoShare is that it os much harder to trace back deleted videos.
14:44 πŸ”— ATrescue I despise it if videos just vanish.
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14:48 πŸ”— Kaz Well aren't you in the right place
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16:18 πŸ”— marked Can't Flashfire VPN to a country that has it?
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16:33 πŸ”— Frogging pirates gonna pirate
16:34 πŸ”— Frogging people who want to pay will pay
16:34 πŸ”— Frogging there is no way around these facts
16:37 πŸ”— JAA Except when there are no reasonable legal offers available. There have been situations where I wanted to pay but was unable to.
16:37 πŸ”— Frogging ah, yeah, that's true
16:37 πŸ”— JAA Geoblocked content, "will be available soon (maybe, perhaps, wink wink)" etc.
16:38 πŸ”— Frogging so amend that to "people who want to pay will pay, if you let them"
16:38 πŸ”— JAA Yep, pretty much.
16:39 πŸ”— JAA There are some other factors also (e.g. quality or being independent of a constant network connection), but that's the main one really.
16:39 πŸ”— Kaz apple music/spotify have killed a huge chunk of music piracy (I have no data to back this up, other than people around me), purely based on convenience
16:40 πŸ”— Frogging Or the presence of DRM in legal copies which restricts how it can be played. I can play a pirated movie anywhere, but the legit one needs special hardware/software
16:40 πŸ”— Frogging The music industry largely solved this by dropping DRM
16:41 πŸ”— JAA Yep, which is also why I refuse to buy Blu-rays. Fuck that "copy protection" which doesn't really work and might just randomly render my player unable to play any new releases at some point.
16:41 πŸ”— JAA (Ok, admittedly, the protection did work for a while in the beginning.)
16:42 πŸ”— MrRadar2 Ironically, I probably would have bought a lot more BluRays if the copy protection were as easy to break as DVD
16:42 πŸ”— MrRadar2 (Or if it just didn't exist at all)
16:42 πŸ”— Frogging the fundamental problem with DRM is that you can't allow someone to read something but not allow them to copy it
16:42 πŸ”— Frogging at the very least it will be copied into their brain
16:43 πŸ”— Frogging reading IS copying
17:06 πŸ”— marked A few countries have no regard for US copyright
17:08 πŸ”— marked DRM was misguided. But I could imagine a few things that could work technically if Congress somehow approved it
17:08 πŸ”— marked Yay democracy
17:10 πŸ”— JAA You have to read the data to be able to play it back. So there will always be a way to get ahold of that data.
17:12 πŸ”— marked So the "fix" could be Shazam running continuously on everyone's phone and you get a tax bill for things you watched and listened to
17:12 πŸ”— JAA lol
17:12 πŸ”— JAA Yeah, that'll work...
17:13 πŸ”— marked NSA is the technology provider
17:14 πŸ”— JAA The US is not the world.
17:15 πŸ”— JAA Nor the world police.
17:18 πŸ”— marked It's funny now I agree. Biit I bet yo
17:18 πŸ”— marked But I bet you Google has already thought of this
17:19 πŸ”— marked They were working on continuous sonic fingerprinting on Android
17:19 πŸ”— JAA I mean, Amazon Echo and whatever Google's equivalent is called is basically that, just for advertisement purposes.
17:21 πŸ”— JAA Also, there are the ultrasonic trackers, which is the same thing.
17:21 πŸ”— JAA https://ubeacsec.org/downloads/report.pdf
17:28 πŸ”— marked I feel Germans are more atuned to the risk because they had the Stasi
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20:08 πŸ”— ranma Frogging: playback anywhere unless file and playback device has Cinavea
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