#archiveteam-ot 2019-04-25,Thu

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01:36 🔗 ivan JAA: hah yeah I've seen that
01:37 🔗 ivan the regexp input box design necessitates that bug
01:37 🔗 ivan ;)
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02:02 🔗 Ravenloft https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ngc/gwzj/index.html
02:03 🔗 GuysFree context?
02:05 🔗 Flashfire The fact that nintendo removed a bunch of that stuff recently
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17:56 🔗 martinlig cool, weird interface, a little bit different than telegram, but ok
17:57 🔗 t3 Telegram messenger?
17:58 🔗 Fusl yeah
17:58 🔗 martinlig t3, yes
17:58 🔗 t3 Well that wouldn't be a fair comparison.
17:58 🔗 Fusl martinlig: your irc experience depends on the irc client you use :P
17:59 🔗 martinlig yeah, i installed the first I found, I think it's the most commonly used for the ones that don't know irc
17:59 🔗 Fusl i for one love irc in a terminal, as well as telegram in a terminal so i have both there
17:59 🔗 t3 martinlig: What client are you currently using?
17:59 🔗 martinlig t3, hexchat
17:59 🔗 martinlig Fusl, cool
18:00 🔗 t3 I'll eventually want to switch to a terminal UI as well. However, I currently use the IRCCloud service.
18:00 🔗 Fusl yeah, hexchat has a fairly old looking wannabe terminal design
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18:00 🔗 martinlig ok, I can't close the window, it seems
18:01 🔗 t3 Fusl: Do you use WeeChat?
18:01 🔗 Fusl yeah
18:01 🔗 t3 Oh I see.
18:02 🔗 martinlig should I try it?
18:02 🔗 Fusl try irccloud or the lounge
18:02 🔗 t3 martinlig: WeeChat is probably more confusing than HexChat.
18:02 🔗 Fusl https://thelounge.chat/
18:03 🔗 t3 WeeChat is more for advanced users. But you can try it, of course.
18:03 🔗 martinlig oh, it's for linux
18:03 🔗 martinlig im on windows, but I can use linux subsitem and see if it works
18:04 🔗 Fusl dont
18:04 🔗 Fusl dont go weechat
18:04 🔗 t3 Right. Windows is very limited in terms of customizability.
18:04 🔗 Fusl you'll grow a beard
18:04 🔗 t3 Fusl: That's not true.
18:05 🔗 Fusl then you havent been using weechat enough yet
18:05 🔗 t3 It's faster than most other clients.
18:05 🔗 Fusl yeah but there is _SO_ much to configure
18:05 🔗 Fusl and SO many possibilities
18:05 🔗 martinlig an irc client can be slow?
18:05 🔗 t3 Fusl: You're right.
18:06 🔗 t3 martinlig: Sure, but it's all relative.
18:06 🔗 Fusl yeah, there are slow irc clients and there are really bad irc clients
18:06 🔗 Fusl "irc" clieents - pidgin (libpurple) for example
18:06 🔗 martinlig uh, lol
18:06 🔗 martinlig oh,yeah, pigdin is really bad
18:06 🔗 Fusl and as for slow
18:06 🔗 martinlig i mean, cool idea, but it's not really user friendly or customizable
18:06 🔗 Fusl Konversation is a slow one
18:07 🔗 t3 For example, if you use a good IRC client, you will start to think that most other messaging apps are slow.
18:07 🔗 t3 I think Telegram is pretty slow compared to IRC, right?
18:08 🔗 martinlig telegram is faster than messenger and whatsapp surely, not sure compared to ir
18:08 🔗 martinlig i'll try using irccloud, ill disconnect for a while
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18:08 🔗 t3 Of course. Facebook is a disgrace to privacy.
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18:08 🔗 t3 And it's slow.
18:08 🔗 martinlig yo?
18:08 🔗 martinlig seems right
18:09 🔗 GuysFree irccloud is great. for some reason it still sometimes says "offline" and I have to manually refresh.
18:09 🔗 GuysFree (not the timeout, just randomly)
18:09 🔗 t3 GuysFree: I've never had that issue. Maybe it is the browser?
18:09 🔗 GuysFree I never used to have issues either
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18:11 🔗 t3 martinlig: IRCCloud is pretty slow, but it is extremely convenient.
18:11 🔗 t3 That's why I use it.
18:12 🔗 martinlig yeah, I just found the desktop app, it's cool
18:12 🔗 t3 Nice.
18:12 🔗 martinlig now I'm both on desktop and web
18:13 🔗 t3 I customized my theme to be midnight with small monospaced text.
18:14 🔗 martinlig just put with dark mode, also the web theme changed
18:14 🔗 t3 martinlig: The free version of IRCCloud will disconnect after 2 hours of inactivity.
18:14 🔗 martinlig I think ill join also wikipedia irc
18:15 🔗 martinlig t3: is it a bad thing?
18:15 🔗 martinlig i mean, it's ok if it's just this, if I can rejoin it's fine
18:15 🔗 t3 martinlig: No. It's just what it is. Your first 7 days are do not have the limit. https://www.irccloud.com/pricing
18:16 🔗 t3 It's running on IRCCloud servers, that's why.
18:17 🔗 martinlig oh, well, makes sense
18:17 🔗 martinlig 100MB drag and drop file sharing
18:17 🔗 martinlig is this an IRC thing or just irccloud=
18:17 🔗 martinlig (the equals was supposed to be a question mark)
18:17 🔗 t3 On the free version, you can only do 2 concurrent IRC connections.
18:17 🔗 t3 martinlig: Just IRCCloud.
18:18 🔗 martinlig enough for now, I think ill remain with free
18:18 🔗 martinlig uh, i need to go, see you later
18:19 🔗 t3 You can upload files through IRCCloud so that you can paste the hosted download links in the cha.
18:19 🔗 JAA There is file sharing in IRC (DCC), but... don't.
18:19 🔗 t3 Take care.
18:19 🔗 t3 JAA: Really? I think that would be very inefficient.
18:20 🔗 JAA t3: It's a protocol to establish a direct connection between the clients. I've had a lot of issues with it though, mainly due to improper client implementations.
18:20 🔗 t3 Sounds about right.
18:48 🔗 Kaz irccloud sucks and I hate that I still pay for it
18:48 🔗 Kaz but it's easier than znc + whatever combo of things I would need to sync state/everything across devices
18:55 🔗 Stiletto is there a mobile client that isn't crap or dangerous? :D
18:56 🔗 GuysFree helps to know your operating system
18:57 🔗 GuysFree IRCCloud does have apps.
18:58 🔗 ivan I use my forked thelounge in mobile Safari
19:00 🔗 Kaz ivan: your fork does look nice - my issue with thelounge was always finding somewhere 'permanent' enough to run it
19:01 🔗 ivan I have it on the smallest OVH VPS
19:04 🔗 Kaz lack of ios app / push notifications does bug me a little bit though
19:04 🔗 Kaz which I think is another reason I've never forced myself off of irccloud
19:05 🔗 ivan I try not to care too much about inbound IRC messages
19:06 🔗 ivan but yes that's a reason to keep irccloud
19:40 🔗 JAA Speaking of push notifications, does anyone have experience with self-hosting? E.g. PushFish (fork of the now-dead Pushjet) or Gotify.
19:46 🔗 kiska JAA: I do run thelounge on ipxcore for myself and Flashfire
19:47 🔗 kiska And I had messed with pushfish and I think it didn't need that many resources, 5-10 mins and it'll be ready
19:48 🔗 kiska I do... like how sparse the documentation is xD
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20:03 🔗 ivan I've used signal-cli to notify myself
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20:35 🔗 JAA kiska: Nice, I'll have to try it out as well then. Yeah, I've noticed the documentation's not exactly extensive.
20:35 🔗 JAA ivan: That's not entirely self-hosted, is it?
20:37 🔗 JAA Ah no, right, the Signal server's available as well.
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21:22 🔗 JAA Uh oh, looks like I managed to mess up irssi.
21:23 🔗 JAA oh, or maybe it's ATrescue's fault.
21:26 🔗 Igloo I got a screen of random emoji's
21:28 🔗 JAA Nevermind, it's actually the terminal. It's fine from another machine.
21:29 🔗 JAA mv /usr/bin/gnome-terminal /dev/null
21:33 🔗 ivan konsole is alright
21:33 🔗 ivan I have per-host profiles and make ctrl-t do Clone Tab to ssh into the same server
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23:27 🔗 JAA Feels good being able to delete over a TB of data after a successful upload to IA. :-)
23:28 🔗 JAA Took long enough anyway, almost 4 months.
23:29 🔗 JAA (To get it into IA)

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