[00:11] *** BlueMax has joined #archiveteam-ot [00:39] *** wp494 has quit IRC (Quit: LOUD UNNECESSARY QUIT MESSAGES) [02:52] https://regexcrossword.com/ [03:31] *** qw3rty has joined #archiveteam-ot [03:39] *** jognsmith has joined #archiveteam-ot [03:40] *** qw3rty2 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 745 seconds) [03:45] *** odemg has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [04:00] *** odemg has joined #archiveteam-ot [04:20] *** dhyan_nat has joined #archiveteam-ot [04:39] *** Quirk8 has quit IRC (END OF LINE) [04:41] *** Quirk8 has joined #archiveteam-ot [04:53] *** tuluu has quit IRC (Quit: tuluu) [04:56] *** tuluu has joined #archiveteam-ot [06:04] *** killsushi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [06:13] *** killsushi has joined #archiveteam-ot [08:05] Letme guess: python-2.7.11-x86_64-2.txz != python3 [08:07] python-2.7.11 == python 2.7.11 [08:07] :p [08:08] https://www.python.org/download/releases/3.0/ Not compatible, released over 10 years ago. [08:19] comming from Debian, they generally advise against compiling random packages due to the high chance of breaking your system. (I think I will use the ``make altinstall`` option.) [08:30] *** dhyan_nat has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [08:30] make seems to be only using one CPU :/ [08:33] * phillipsj tries make -j 4 [08:33] seems to have more than doubled the compile speed. [08:34] * phillipsj goes to summon the dish cleaning fairy. [08:41] *** killsushi has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [08:44] phillipsj: What do you mean regarding Python 2/3? You can have both installed in parallel, even minor versions. [08:54] Slackware does not appear to have a pre-compiled pyhthon3 package. [08:56] Ah [08:56] By the way, if you need many different Python versions: pyenv [08:56] I am worried one may clobber the other if I am not carefull. [08:57] *** deevious has quit IRC (Quit: deevious) [09:01] Not even suire I need the alternate install option for major versions. [09:02] *sure [09:04] No idea about that. I don't think I've ever manually compiled Python from source, only through pyenv. [09:06] *** godane has quit IRC (Leaving.) [09:09] *** Raccoon has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [09:12] The readme file says it will be installed a python3, then immeditely contradicts itself. [09:15] "This will install Python as ``python3``. ... the executable is called ... just ``python``." [09:18] OK, the way I did it I have to invoke pip3.7 instead of pip-3 [09:21] and python is python3.7 [09:21] *** Specular has joined #archiveteam-ot [09:22] has anyone read up on this and whether this may have a positive effect on scraping sites? http://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2019/09/09/17-16783.pdf [09:22] saw it posted on Hacker News, regarding scraping LinkedIn and the decision that came from it [09:29] from -bs: https://twitter.com/OrinKerr/status/1171116153948626944 [09:36] ty [10:05] *** godane has joined #archiveteam-ot [10:35] *** deevious has joined #archiveteam-ot [11:18] *** VerifiedJ has joined #archiveteam-ot [11:28] *** BlueMax has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [12:17] *** DogsRNice has joined #archiveteam-ot [12:26] *** Dallas has quit IRC (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat) [12:26] *** Dallas has joined #archiveteam-ot [12:28] *** qw3rty has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 745 seconds) [12:50] *** qw3rty has joined #archiveteam-ot [13:09] *** Raccoon has joined #archiveteam-ot [14:21] *** kiska1 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [14:22] *** kiska1 has joined #archiveteam-ot [14:22] *** Fusl__ sets mode: +o kiska1 [14:22] *** svchfoo1 sets mode: +o kiska1 [14:22] *** Fusl sets mode: +o kiska1 [14:22] *** Fusl_ sets mode: +o kiska1 [14:55] *** Raccoon` has joined #archiveteam-ot [14:58] *** Raccoon has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 360 seconds) [14:59] *** Raccoon` is now known as Raccoon [15:19] *** Specular has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:19] *** Specular has joined #archiveteam-ot [15:31] *** Specular has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:53] *** VADemon has joined #archiveteam-ot [16:47] *** systwiALT has joined #archiveteam-ot [16:51] *** systwiAL_ has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [16:54] *** systwiALT has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [17:18] *** VerifiedJ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [18:41] *** jognsmith has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [18:46] SoYouStart has two servers at 25 % recurring discount and no setup fee again if you get it for 6 or 12 months. I believe the renewal can be monthly afterwards, just has to be in time before it expires. [18:47] damn out of stock [18:55] Aw [19:14] *** Jens has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [19:14] *** Jens has joined #archiveteam-ot [20:17] Yeah all out of stock :-( [20:27] *** Stiletto has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [20:30] *** Stiletto has joined #archiveteam-ot [20:58] *** katocala has quit IRC () [21:06] *** Raccoon has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:07] When I look, it says the E3-SAT-1-16 is still in stock. [21:09] *** katocala has joined #archiveteam-ot [21:28] Meh. SATA [21:29] Yeah, spinning rust is fine, but there's not enough spinning rust in that machine to make it worthwhile for AT needs. [21:30] But the SSD one is awesome. [21:30] Indeed :) [21:32] *** kiskabak has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [21:32] *** kiskabak has joined #archiveteam-ot [21:32] *** Fusl sets mode: +o kiskabak [21:32] *** Fusl__ sets mode: +o kiskabak [21:32] *** Fusl_ sets mode: +o kiskabak [22:06] *** killsushi has joined #archiveteam-ot [22:37] *** jognsmith has joined #archiveteam-ot [22:37] * phillipsj kind of still likes spinning rust. [22:39] For the right application, absolutely! [22:41] I got my disk array with 15k SAS drives because it was cheaper than an equivavlent SSD. Was a little worried about noise, but they are quieter than some of the 7200RPM drives I have. [22:42] I figure ram can compensate for low IOPS to a certain extent. [22:46] But yeah, if your work-load never lets up, there is no substitue for an SSD. [23:02] * phillipsj moves a 2GB iso over to burn a Linux DVD. (cdrecord was locking up the machine and required a restart when I tried it on this machine) [23:03] What is that, a "DVD"? ;-) [23:03] I don't even remember when I last installed an OS from a disc. [23:04] A write-only medium ;) [23:05] ..wait, that came out wrong [23:07] But I have been using live DVDs instead of functional computers for over a year now. Hope to make a functional computer. [23:08] HDDs are just very thick DVDs [23:09] Why not USB thumb drives though? [23:09] Reusable, faster, etc. [23:12] USB drives are faster for reads, but not writes. [23:15] Oh, you mean isntead of DVDs? No chance of accidentally overwriting imnportant files or filesystem data. [23:16] Yeah, I meant instead of DVDs. [23:16] And well, that's what backups are for. :-) [23:17] I messed up a FreeBSD upgrade by clobbering the filesystem when mounting my backup (not sure the filesystem was actually damaged ). [23:18] I tried to do an upgrade and drive replacement at the sametime. [23:18] That's what the offsite and offline backup is for. :-P [23:19] JAA I have plans for one. Even have a suitable machine (my "white elephant" computer that I can't afford to run) [23:19] Hey, same. :-) [23:20] I've had plans for one for years. [23:20] Unfortunately, they're still only plans. [23:20] I have plans to encrypt the data in transit with the back-up server's public key. [23:22] Then store the decryption passphrase away from that server in more than one location (so I am up to 3 locations). [23:23] Worried I am over-thinkig it a bit. If I can track the keys, it should work even if one of 3 locations are destroyed. [23:31] *** coderobe has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [23:32] you can write to the Samsung MUF flash drives at 60MB/s [23:34] When I was doing back-of the envelope calculations for data by carrier pigeon about 10 years ago, most were limited to 5 or 10MB/s [23:36] I was thinking I could get closer to 50MB/s (USB 2.0 supports ~ 400Mbps), but no. Most cheap drives would have been a major bottleneck. [23:36] SanDisk makes some that reach around 400 MB/s I believe. [23:37] With USB 3, obviously. [23:37] Probably bulkier than your average USB stick as well. [23:37] They're called Extreme Pro. And no, fairly standard size. [23:38] I mean, not sure what the average size is. [23:38] Although the NVME drive I installed in my dad's coputer was about that size. [23:39] I also concluded I did not want to tend pigeons: the postal service is more practical. [23:41] That's exactly why I use flash drives. :-) [23:41] But with bandwdith prices in my juridiction, it was aking a stupid ammount of sense. [23:41] *making [23:42] :-/ [23:42] My condolences. [23:43] Was thinking of doing a data-by mail service. I think my price-limit to avoid customs troubles on the costs of the media was about $50. [23:43] It has improved some. [23:45] * phillipsj now has 'unlimited' bandwsidth. I think at the time I had a monthly 60GB data cap. [23:46] or maybe 30GB [23:47] Unlimited bandwidth would be great, but unlimited traffic at a high bandwidth is good enough. :-) [23:48] How long ago did you have those caps? [23:56] I dunno, but I remeber being frustrated that both remastering gnusense and downloading openstreammap would use up my monthly alloment. My have contributed to my interest in the Pirate Party (even though I don't really "pirate" much). [23:57] *openstreetmap [23:58] For a while I hosted a Bitcoin node on comercial Internet access with a 300GB cap. I think overages were like $1/GB if I went over. [23:59] Limiting the number of connections, I was able to keep it to about 150GB/mo