#archiveteam-ot 2019-10-11,Fri

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02:34 🔗 systwi ivan: Are 403s retried in grab-site?
02:35 🔗 ivan READ the README my man
02:35 🔗 systwi Ah, sorry :/
02:35 🔗 ivan --permanent-error-status-codes
02:39 🔗 systwi Is there a way to have it retry _all_ error codes?
02:39 🔗 systwi Should I use a weird number like 9999?
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03:04 🔗 ivan try it and see
03:05 🔗 ivan seems like that would work
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12:06 🔗 JAA Huh, Instagram now requires logging in when trying to access a location page. Too bad.
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19:54 🔗 Raccoon Does anyone know offhand what the current U.S. cutoff year for public domain is for most b&w / silent films
19:58 🔗 betamax according to https://creativecommons.org/public-domain-reopening/ it is 1923
19:59 🔗 betamax although that assumes that the copyright was renewed (in many cases - particularly more obscure works - it wasn't deemed worthwhile to renew, so those works actually entered the public domain a while ago)
20:05 🔗 Raccoon How does that work the (in theory even) when somebody re-releases it onto VHS, DVD or Bluray
20:06 🔗 Raccoon maybe with some paltry upscaling
20:06 🔗 Raccoon Do they earn a copyright themselves for the act of putting the film onto reel and re-recorde it onto another format?
20:21 🔗 betamax not particularly sure (and IANAL disclaimer)
20:25 🔗 markedL https://archive.org/post/39599/help-needed-with-copyright-issues
20:26 🔗 betamax it seems also to be the case with remastered songs:
20:26 🔗 betamax https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160602/07371934600/this-is-bad-court-says-remastered-old-songs-get-brand-new-copyright.shtml
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21:04 🔗 markedL the linked case to that covers a lot of the issues. it basically said format or automated conversions are not sufficient human creativity for new copyright to apply, but a remastering involving creative choices could possibly
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21:25 🔗 Raccoon Thanks
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21:49 🔗 SketchCow Classic -ot
22:06 🔗 Raccoon I think the Wiki ought to have an OT section on copyright, case law, precedence and scholarly articles on reform
22:07 🔗 Raccoon Surely IA has seen its fair share of copyright legalities
22:12 🔗 JAA Surely IA doesn't really want to share those stories for legal or other reasons.
22:32 🔗 Raccoon even their victories?
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22:41 🔗 Raccoon anyway, my thought on the matter was to educate people who believe in the mission of IA about the pitfalls of Copyright, to educate people who currently don't hold an opinion on reform.
22:41 🔗 Raccoon er, pretend i wrote that without distraction
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23:44 🔗 markedL people happily give money to Disney, Disney happily gives money to congress; that's where our current reform comes from
23:48 🔗 JAA And your congress members happily accept that money. That's the real problem.

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