#archiveteam-ot 2020-04-25,Sat

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16:57 🔗 betamax With the internetarchive python library, is there a way to upload files to an existing folder in an item?
16:57 🔗 betamax (don't mind if the solution needs the python library or the command line)
16:58 🔗 betamax I've tried "ia upload <id> <folder>/<file>" but that just uploads the <file> to the toplevel of the item.
17:05 🔗 atphoenix JAA: on SMR https://www.tomshardware.com/news/wd-lists-all-drives-slower-smr-techNOLOGY and https://blog.westerndigital.com/wd-red-nas-drives/
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18:06 🔗 JAA betamax: https://github.com/jjjake/internetarchive/issues/266
18:08 🔗 JAA atphoenix: Ah, nice, finally a manufacturer mentions SMR in the specs. That's been annoying me with Seagate's drives for years, especially the ST8000DM004 vs ST8000DM0004 bullshit.
18:09 🔗 JAA But also: "The company contends that SMR technology is adequate for the applications the drives are designed for, but that is certainly an open matter of debate with many users claiming the drives cause problems in RAID arrays." No, it isn't, because Blues and Blacks are not intended for RAIDs.
18:10 🔗 JAA And I guess if they use SMR in Reds 2-6 TB, they tweaked the firmware there to not cause issues.
18:22 🔗 JAA Or do they mean the small Reds actually cause problems? That'd be the first time I hear that.
18:32 🔗 atphoenix I have avoided Seagate since their firmware fiascos that bricked drives a few years back. Here's an article showing recovery: http://nixware.net/fix-bricked-seagate-st31000340as-hard-disk-bsy-error
18:35 🔗 JAA The newer drives are fine, but you need to do a decent amount of research to figure out which ones are SMR. For a long time, Seagate was the only company to sell SMR drives to normal consumers. I haven't looked into it in 2+ years since my last drive purchase though.
18:35 🔗 JAA WD only had SMR in some specific drives that were only available to business customers at that time.
18:42 🔗 atphoenix One thing that isn't clear to me is why SMR would be used in *smaller* drives rather than larger drives...unless the idea is by increasing storage density using SMR they can leave out at least 1 platter and thus meet a production cost target. For the larger capacity drives, higher sales prices may leave enough margin to not *need* SMR to hit a cost target.
18:44 🔗 JAA I'm sure the helium sealing plays a role.
18:47 🔗 JAA Or rather, the lack thereof since you can fill them with air due to the lower platter count.
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20:59 🔗 betamax JAA: thanks, that (using --remote-name=) works perfectly
20:59 🔗 betamax not wanting to turn this into an IA support thread, but any idea how to stop it deriving the item upon upload of a new file?
20:59 🔗 betamax I've tried "-H x-archive-queue-derive:0" but that doesn't work
21:03 🔗 betamax ah, there's a "--no-derive" option, I'll try that
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21:40 🔗 betamax ah, seems you need to include "--no-derive" and explicitly not include "-H x-archive-queue-derive:0"
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