| Time |
Nickname |
Message |
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00:00
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Coderjoe |
is that part of derive now (with a backlog for existing items), or is it generated on requset from a user? |
|
00:02
🔗
|
underscor |
Both |
|
00:02
🔗
|
underscor |
user requests take priority though |
|
00:02
🔗
|
underscor |
Normally the workers can keep up fine |
|
00:02
🔗
|
underscor |
the problem was that they all choked on a bad item |
|
00:03
🔗
|
underscor |
(so the queue ballooned) |
|
00:11
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I alias rm to rm * |
|
00:11
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I am that fucking hardcore |
|
00:11
🔗
|
chronomex |
don't you mean rm -fr * ? |
|
00:11
🔗
|
SketchCow |
No no |
|
00:11
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Let's not be crazy |
|
00:15
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Man, 26Mb/sec and it will STILL take 4 hours. |
|
00:30
🔗
|
Wyatt |
Wow, I never really thought to look at different rm implementations. |
|
00:30
🔗
|
Wyatt |
Times like these I love unix so, so very much; this is fascinating stuff. |
|
01:42
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Blasting the vk collection into archive.org. |
|
05:05
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
goddamn enforced lack of backups |
|
05:06
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
uverse dvr crashed. upon coming back up (after a 5-10 minute wait), all recorded programs are gone |
|
05:06
🔗
|
db48x |
ouch |
|
05:06
🔗
|
underscor |
Gotta love uverse |
|
05:07
🔗
|
underscor |
Especially those delicious 2wire routers |
|
05:07
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
when it crashed it was just sitting there with a red X and two dots on the screen. really useful error message... |
|
05:45
🔗
|
SketchCow |
The derives are happening again! |
|
05:45
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Wooooooo |
|
05:46
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Not that I won't fix that when I throw another 500 magazines into the hopper |
|
05:46
🔗
|
SketchCow |
But that'll be tomorrow |
|
05:46
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Also, Star Wars Forums, I need to find out if people have copies of that |
|
05:46
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Because I think the disk may have died |
|
05:47
🔗
|
chronomex |
alas, alack |
|
05:47
🔗
|
db48x |
that was timely |
|
05:47
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Yeah, bummer |
|
05:47
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Well, depends who uploaded, and if they still have what they had |
|
06:02
🔗
|
db48x |
whos hard drive died? |
|
06:02
🔗
|
* |
db48x buys a vowel |
|
06:07
🔗
|
db48x |
do we know if he couldn't afford a second hard drive, or if he just thought it couldn't happen to him? |
|
07:05
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
man... this DigiNotar story just keeps getting better... |
|
07:05
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9219727/Hackers_steal_SSL_certificates_for_CIA_MI6_Mossad |
|
07:07
🔗
|
db48x |
yea |
|
07:07
🔗
|
db48x |
although that headline is just silly |
|
07:07
🔗
|
db48x |
they stole ssl certs with the domain name set to the public-facing webpages of the CIA, MI6 and Mossad, plus five or six hundred other groups |
|
07:10
🔗
|
chronomex |
they also got one issued to *.*.com |
|
07:10
🔗
|
chronomex |
if that doesn't scare you, I don't know what would |
|
07:12
🔗
|
db48x |
it doesn't scare me |
|
07:12
🔗
|
db48x |
no client is supposed to honor such a certificate |
|
07:12
🔗
|
chronomex |
hmm, ok |
|
07:15
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
how about the fact that diginotar was hacked as far back as 2009? |
|
07:15
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00002228.html |
|
07:15
🔗
|
chronomex |
that, too, is ridiculous |
|
07:18
🔗
|
ersi |
Haha |
|
07:18
🔗
|
ersi |
bunch of fucktards |
|
07:19
🔗
|
chronomex |
yeah, here's a list: *.*.com and *.*.org are on the list regardless of whether clients care about them http://isc.sans.org/diary/DigiNotar+breach+-+the+story+so+far/11500 |
|
07:47
🔗
|
db48x |
they were apparently rather lax |
|
07:48
🔗
|
db48x |
not sure if all of that "evidence" of various hacks is all legit |
|
07:48
🔗
|
db48x |
it'd be too easy to plant |
|
07:49
🔗
|
db48x |
the real problem with a CA is that there's no way for them to know for sure how many certificates were issued |
|
07:49
🔗
|
db48x |
all someone has to do is steal the private key for their root, and they never have to visit the system again |
|
07:50
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
true |
|
07:50
🔗
|
ersi |
revoke everything! |
|
07:50
🔗
|
db48x |
honestly it looks more like someone wanted them ruined |
|
07:50
🔗
|
chronomex |
godaddy next, please |
|
07:51
🔗
|
db48x |
heh |
|
07:51
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
and makes it harder to revoke, due to the likelihood of duplicate serial numbers |
|
07:51
🔗
|
db48x |
impossible to revoke, since they won't know the serial numbers at all |
|
07:51
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
that is, to silently revoke |
|
07:52
🔗
|
ersi |
revoke Diginotars trust |
|
07:52
🔗
|
ersi |
remove rather |
|
07:52
🔗
|
db48x |
that's already happened |
|
07:52
🔗
|
ersi |
Yeah, I know. |
|
07:52
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
no, they won't, until the fake certs show up and are noticed |
|
07:52
🔗
|
db48x |
but I think that was the attacker's goal all along |
|
07:52
🔗
|
db48x |
to destroy the business rather than to gain fake keys |
|
07:53
🔗
|
db48x |
an alternative is that they only wanted to destroy the business once the hack was discovered |
|
07:54
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
apparently the group of companies was also involved in public keys for electronic signatures |
|
07:54
🔗
|
ersi |
ouch |
|
07:55
🔗
|
db48x |
heh |
|
07:55
🔗
|
chronomex |
yes. another arm of the business owned the intermediate certificates that were eventually connected to the data in all dutch passports. |
|
07:55
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
for the dutch government |
|
07:55
🔗
|
chronomex |
s/past tense/present tense/g |
|
07:55
🔗
|
db48x |
awesome |
|
07:56
🔗
|
chronomex |
the dutch government is currently being very proactive about taking over all these issuing certificates. |
|
07:56
🔗
|
db48x |
another suspect emerges |
|
07:56
🔗
|
Coderjoe |
fake dutch passports for.. DUNDUNDUNNNN terrorists |
|
12:15
🔗
|
db48x |
only about 280 GB of Friendster to upload |
|
12:15
🔗
|
ersi |
Enjoy~ |
|
12:16
🔗
|
db48x |
I really miss having a symetric connection |
|
14:59
🔗
|
Aranje |
Coderjoe: You mean the CIA >_> :D |
|
15:00
🔗
|
Aranje |
God knows they'd love a supply of truly legit foreign passports |
|
16:02
🔗
|
tsp |
damn fanfiction.net to hell |
|
16:04
🔗
|
SketchCow |
The hard drive that died was on flophouse. |
|
16:04
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Flophouse is, after all, 35 drives |
|
16:11
🔗
|
db48x |
tsp: for there robots.txt? |
|
16:12
🔗
|
db48x |
SketchCow: ahh, I thought those machines had raid of one variety or another? |
|
16:13
🔗
|
db48x |
their |
|
16:14
🔗
|
tsp |
I have a problem I'm not quite sure how to solve. I have a lot of fanfiction, ~35gb worth and a bunch more waiting for me to download. I didn't realize this until a few days ago, but some of the stories have been munged with a script that apparently the owners of the website ran and I've been getting this garbage for about a year whenever I update one. If I still have a backup from last |
|
16:14
🔗
|
tsp |
year and work off that, I'll be missing a large portion of content and won't be able to get new updates because of this munging. Should I just continue to archive stuff exactly as it comes down from the website and not worry about it? |
|
16:19
🔗
|
SketchCow |
These machines did not have raid, hence the move to one that does. |
|
16:25
🔗
|
tsp |
Damn, I don't have a backup from that long ago. I don't think I can do anything going forward either, because there's no efficient way to make snapshots of dynamic html |
|
16:29
🔗
|
SketchCow |
But you have a lot, right. |
|
16:29
🔗
|
tsp |
yeah, ~500k stories and another ~3M on S3 that I need to download and import |
|
16:29
🔗
|
tsp |
but I got the millions in December 2010, after the script hit |
|
16:32
🔗
|
SketchCow |
You take what you have, set aside as a archive |
|
16:49
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I have three Atari Connection magazines, are you interested in buying them? The issues are Summer 82, Summer 84 and Summer 81. The issues are complete the summer 84 cover is torn and the summer 81 cover has fallen off but I have it, all three are in used condition. I am asking $25 for all three. I also have a Learning to Use Microsoft QuickBASIC by Microsoft from 1988 that I would sell for $15 and a Epson Equity GW-BASIC Reference Manual from |
|
16:53
🔗
|
db48x |
tsp: how is it munged? |
|
16:53
🔗
|
tsp |
db48x: swearing is replaced with *. Not all of it, and not in all stories. It also gets peoples names |
|
16:54
🔗
|
tsp |
Whatever it is seems to have been turned off now, but it still affects some stories |
|
16:54
🔗
|
db48x |
awesome, bowlderization by a computer program is the worst |
|
16:55
🔗
|
underscor |
:D |
|
16:55
🔗
|
underscor |
clbuttic problem? |
|
16:55
🔗
|
tsp |
I have a feeling they did it irreversably, else later chapters from the same story would have the same thing applied to them. |
|
16:56
🔗
|
db48x |
if you view the story on the page today, do the older chapters have the problem? |
|
16:56
🔗
|
tsp |
I haven't checked, I don't keep history. When an update comes out, I just download it |
|
16:57
🔗
|
underscor |
next step, write an algorithm that reads the sentence, determines context, and chooses an appropriate swearword |
|
16:57
🔗
|
underscor |
Or just replace everything with "fuck" |
|
16:57
🔗
|
db48x |
lol, no |
|
16:57
🔗
|
tsp |
The updates were so long ago I can't really find that out now. In some of them I can obviously replace a** with ass, but I don't want to do anything to the content now |
|
16:57
🔗
|
db48x |
no point in making it worse |
|
16:57
🔗
|
underscor |
I'm gonna kick your *** => I'm gonna kick your FUCK |
|
16:58
🔗
|
underscor |
A girl dog is called a ***** => A girl dog is called a FUCK |
|
16:58
🔗
|
underscor |
:D |
|
16:58
🔗
|
underscor |
A bundle of sticks is a ******* => A bundle of sticks is a FUCK |
|
16:58
🔗
|
underscor |
See |
|
16:58
🔗
|
underscor |
It works for all contexts |
|
17:00
🔗
|
tsp |
there's no pattern to it at all, just randomly munges stories, but I'm looking at it a year on and not when it was happening. I guess I'll just keep archiving though |
|
17:01
🔗
|
underscor |
tsp: How long have you been archiving ff.net?! |
|
17:01
🔗
|
tsp |
I didn't find anything in their TOS either about having the right to modify user data like that, but I don't speak legalese |
|
17:01
🔗
|
db48x |
as annoying as it is, if it represents the state of the site at the time then it's cool |
|
17:01
🔗
|
tsp |
underscor: dunno... 2007 or so |
|
17:01
🔗
|
db48x |
just records for all time that they were idiots |
|
17:02
🔗
|
tsp |
but not the complete thing until december 2010, and I still haven't got that here it's just on s3 |
|
17:03
🔗
|
underscor |
tsp: oh, cool |
|
17:03
🔗
|
underscor |
So you have a complete copy? |
|
17:03
🔗
|
tsp |
more or less, I didn't redownload stuff I already had |
|
17:04
🔗
|
underscor |
oh okay |
|
17:04
🔗
|
underscor |
oh man, I totally love interstitial ads |
|
17:04
🔗
|
tsp |
I'm going to take my dbs folder as it is right now on my backup drive and clone it, along with the ~2800 updates that I just imported. Then continue archiving |
|
17:05
🔗
|
tsp |
I saved them because of this munging |
|
17:05
🔗
|
underscor |
Any company that purchases an interstitial instantly goes on my blacklist of places-I-won't-buy-from |
|
17:05
🔗
|
tsp |
Are they that bad? |
|
17:05
🔗
|
tsp |
my screen reader ignores most ads |
|
17:05
🔗
|
underscor |
Hijacking the page you're on to redirect you to an ad you can't skip? |
|
17:05
🔗
|
underscor |
Oh, I see |
|
17:06
🔗
|
tsp |
if they redirect though, I'd notice |
|
17:06
🔗
|
underscor |
I think it's some shady floating div thing |
|
17:06
🔗
|
underscor |
because the URL doesn't change, but it still blocks content until it's done trying to sell you things |
|
17:07
🔗
|
tsp |
right, if this drive dies, my ff-sep2 backup is going to be toast |
|
17:07
🔗
|
db48x |
:( |
|
17:08
🔗
|
tsp |
I don't have the space to put it on my main one |
|
17:08
🔗
|
db48x |
may I offer you a place to upload? |
|
17:08
🔗
|
tsp |
my bandwidth will go through the roof if I do that, we have crazy caps over here in canada |
|
17:09
🔗
|
db48x |
:( |
|
17:09
🔗
|
underscor |
tsp: Sneakernet! :D |
|
17:09
🔗
|
db48x |
how big is it? |
|
17:09
🔗
|
tsp |
35gb |
|
17:10
🔗
|
tsp |
when I download the 40gb on s3 that'll be even bigger, but that won't go into my sep2 backup of course |
|
17:10
🔗
|
underscor |
Hmm, I wonder if I can find my 64GB flash drive |
|
17:10
🔗
|
db48x |
right, you said that |
|
17:10
🔗
|
underscor |
That wouldn't be too expensive to mail back and forth |
|
17:10
🔗
|
underscor |
heh |
|
17:10
🔗
|
db48x |
underscor: your thoughts mirror my own to a strange degree |
|
17:11
🔗
|
underscor |
db48x: :D |
|
17:11
🔗
|
underscor |
Great minds think alike! ;) |
|
17:11
🔗
|
tsp |
my backup doesn't have all the recent updates, that's why I'm backing it up. I'll run the updates again, probably another gb or so by now |
|
17:11
🔗
|
tsp |
but that's just the stuff I have, this is complicated |
|
17:11
🔗
|
underscor |
You have scripts that do the work for you, or what? |
|
17:12
🔗
|
tsp |
yep |
|
17:12
🔗
|
tsp |
bunch of python script |
|
17:12
🔗
|
tsp |
python scripts and edbrowse macros |
|
17:14
🔗
|
db48x |
WD sells a nice portable usb hard drive that ships well |
|
17:14
🔗
|
db48x |
1TB for $110 |
|
17:15
🔗
|
underscor |
I usually just ship naked |
|
17:16
🔗
|
db48x |
yea, you can save $20-30 that way, if you want to crack open a computer and plug in a drive |
|
17:17
🔗
|
db48x |
for something that you're going to have for a few days and then ship, the usb interface is a plus |
|
17:18
🔗
|
tsp |
rsyncing hundreds of thousands of files really takes a while |
|
17:19
🔗
|
ersi |
Yeah. |
|
17:19
🔗
|
underscor |
I just have like 30 of these laying around http://www.amazon.com/Drive-Adapter-Converter-Optical-External/dp/B001OORMVQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1315243134&sr=8-2 |
|
17:20
🔗
|
db48x |
underscor: :) |
|
17:22
🔗
|
tsp |
I've also got tarballs of random fanfiction sites I've come across, if I can get them easily |
|
17:22
🔗
|
db48x |
tsp: so, when will you have a raid setup of some kind? preferably zfs... |
|
17:23
🔗
|
tsp |
What oses can do zfs these days? |
|
17:26
🔗
|
db48x |
linux (to one degree or another), bsd, solaris |
|
17:27
🔗
|
ersi |
I wouldn't count linux. |
|
17:28
🔗
|
ersi |
I'd say FreeBSD and Solaris. |
|
17:28
🔗
|
db48x |
yea, it's a bit early unless you want to debug the occasional crash |
|
17:28
🔗
|
db48x |
or slow to glacial pace when you hit 90% full |
|
17:30
🔗
|
db48x |
I think OpenIndiana is currently the way to go on the solaris side of things |
|
17:37
🔗
|
tsp |
I want to try to get adultfanfiction.net as well, but that's going to be a bitch |
|
17:43
🔗
|
db48x |
haven't seen that one. why will it be difficult? |
|
17:44
🔗
|
SketchCow |
800 items in the derive queue, 178 are me |
|
17:44
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Nowhere near out of magazines to ingest. |
|
17:44
🔗
|
underscor |
:D |
|
17:44
🔗
|
underscor |
SketchCow: I <3 Filling Derive Queues |
|
17:47
🔗
|
underscor |
http://passphra.se/ :D |
|
18:00
🔗
|
SketchCow |
http://www.vintagecomputing.com/wp-content/images/retroscan/flight_simulator_sept11_large.jpg |
|
18:00
🔗
|
db48x |
SketchCow: awesome |
|
18:01
🔗
|
Aranje |
oh damn |
|
18:01
🔗
|
db48x |
well, there's that footer at the bottom, but still cool |
|
18:04
🔗
|
underscor |
Wow |
|
18:06
🔗
|
chronomex |
haha |
|
18:06
🔗
|
chronomex |
oh yeah, we're sneaking up on National Freedom Day or whatever, aren't we? |
|
18:12
🔗
|
tsp |
ntfs is going to hate me for creating another 600000 files on it |
|
18:25
🔗
|
SketchCow |
We had a HUGE debate about the footer |
|
18:26
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Oh man that takes me back |
|
18:26
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Cleaning girlfriend's apartment, no time, but ask later. |
|
18:29
🔗
|
underscor |
SketchCow: I remember that story |
|
18:30
🔗
|
chronomex |
I don't. |
|
18:44
🔗
|
db48x |
SketchCow: at least it's not a watermark :) |
|
18:48
🔗
|
db48x |
hrm |
|
18:48
🔗
|
db48x |
my rsync has slowed to only 500 kB/s |
|
18:57
🔗
|
db48x |
LOL |
|
18:58
🔗
|
db48x |
http://blog.gerv.net/2011/09/build-tool-name-shortage/ |
|
19:04
🔗
|
chronomex |
hahahah |
|
19:13
🔗
|
ersi |
20:37 < ZrX-oMs> http://www.happyplace.com/3701/guy-photoshops-justin-bieber-face-into-coworkers-entire-stock-photo-library |
|
19:13
🔗
|
ersi |
20:46 < jelly-hme> dude didn't have backups? eh |
|
19:14
🔗
|
db48x |
lol |
|
19:15
🔗
|
chronomex |
hahahahaha |
|
19:15
🔗
|
ersi |
I thought, since you linked something funny.. so should I |
|
19:29
🔗
|
* |
db48x yawns |
|
19:29
🔗
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db48x |
bedtime |
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db48x |
after a fashion |
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19:35
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SketchCow |
Hey. |
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19:35
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SketchCow |
Short form |
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19:35
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SketchCow |
Ben would watermark |
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19:35
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SketchCow |
I criticized him |
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SketchCow |
He got angry |
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SketchCow |
I turned it up |
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SketchCow |
He got MORE angry |
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19:35
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SketchCow |
I turned it far up enough to temper steel |
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19:36
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SketchCow |
Ben relented, realized his flaws |
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19:36
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SketchCow |
Changed it up |
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19:36
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SketchCow |
Big fan of me now |
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19:36
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SketchCow |
I'm a big fan of him |
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19:36
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SketchCow |
hugz |
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19:36
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SketchCow |
There's some great weblog entries |
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19:36
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SketchCow |
So he doesn't watermark. |
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19:36
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SketchCow |
he adds that border to random sides, image is untouched. |
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SketchCow |
If you want it, cut out the border |
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19:36
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SketchCow |
Otherwise, it stays |
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SketchCow |
see |
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SketchCow |
I can deal |
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19:38
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chronomex |
that's the right way |
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22:13
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SketchCow |
http://batcave.textfiles.com/defcon/ |
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22:13
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SketchCow |
Will be on youtube and vimeo in an hour. |