#archiveteam 2012-01-22,Sun

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Time	Nickname	Message
01:24 ^🔗	yipdw_	SketchCow: lots of SOPA news stories uploading to batcave under yipdw::/sopa-news-{1,2}
01:25 ^🔗	yipdw_	there are quite a few duplicates, but I figure I'll just give you the whole thing and curation can occur later
01:51 ^🔗	chronomex	if it's ingested into wbm, I'd expect wbm will take care of that.
01:51 ^🔗	chronomex	it'll just count as a "deep and focused crawl" :]
01:55 ^🔗	chronomex	s/will/should/
01:56 ^🔗	arrith	is there any location for groupings of stuff like that? say a 'deep and focused crawl' gets imported into WBM, would there be a page that links to them all saying like "SOPA stories"?
01:57 ^🔗	chronomex	I don't think so, I think you'd have to look for a specific site in the WBM interface
01:57 ^🔗	chronomex	you could make a webpage that links into WBM though
02:03 ^🔗	NovaKing	http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/01/renewing-old-resolutions-for-new-year.html
02:28 ^🔗	bsmith093	anyone working on grabbing ffnet, cause sopa could kill them too
02:29 ^🔗	bsmith093	i realize its kind of a side target, but once disney's lawyers wake up, theyre not going back into storage until they shut down something
02:31 ^🔗	DFJustin	archive-it.org does focused collections like that http://www.archive-it.org/collections/1029
02:50 ^🔗	Ymgve	that cray dude should get this http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/sys/2811561130.html
02:59 ^🔗	bsmith093	even moores law wouldnt drop the price that fast
03:00 ^🔗	bsmith093	hes taking a huge hit
03:00 ^🔗	chronomex	he wants it gone, to a good home, not parted out.
03:00 ^🔗	chronomex	that's worth taking a hit
03:01 ^🔗	chronomex	I've done the same
03:01 ^🔗	bsmith093	ah, well, that make sense h=then, ive done that too
03:11 ^🔗	closure	http://kvartirakrasivo.ru/404/index.php damn, it's like geocities didn't go away, just moved to russia
03:36 ^🔗	Paradoks	Sketchcow: Is there room for Mobile Me uploads, yet? My linux box is underpowered, hard-drive-wise.
03:39 ^🔗	arrith	DFJustin: archive-it looks pretty neat, thanks
04:39 ^🔗	SketchCow	We do need to move on it, though.
04:39 ^🔗	SketchCow	yipdw: Thanks for the stuff.
04:52 ^🔗	bsmith093	what is mobile me, anyway, like apples branded myspace?
04:54 ^🔗	bsmith093	SketchCow: did you poke through the nickel weekly stuff yet?
20:59 ^🔗	Nemo_bis	I'm quickly running out of space and batcave is so slooow
21:00 ^🔗	Nemo_bis	and suddenly, ashamed, it received at 700 KB/s for some seconds
22:02 ^🔗	balrog	is wayback acting up atm?
22:02 ^🔗	balrog	getting a lot of 502 errors :<
22:06 ^🔗	balrog	http://web.archive.org/web/20110622183843/http://www.ulogic.org/~jb/debit/downloads/tarballs/debit-latest.tar.bz2
22:06 ^🔗	balrog	that fails :<
22:15 ^🔗	nitro2k01	Wayback is always acting up
22:18 ^🔗	balrog	I need that file :[
22:18 ^🔗	soultcer	Did you try the ia mirror?
22:19 ^🔗	soultcer	nvm, it doesn't have that page either
22:19 ^🔗	DFJustin	I'm amazed wayback works at all frankly
22:19 ^🔗	soultcer	Why shouldn't it work?
22:20 ^🔗	DFJustin	it's ridiculously huge
22:21 ^🔗	DFJustin	uh oh http://www.pickmore.com/websites/filesonic-disabled-fbi-threatened-them-like-megaupload-3802
22:21 ^🔗	soultcer	Smart move
22:22 ^🔗	soultcer	When Google changed the Youtube text from "This video is not available in your country" to "This video is not available due to a GEMA restriction" suddenly a lot of people complained about GEMA
22:23 ^🔗	soultcer	Maybe when more US citizens see an error message for once, it will help too with the fight against the copyright lobby.
22:23 ^🔗	nitro2k01	balrog: What's supposed to be in thet file?
22:23 ^🔗	balrog	nitro2k01: FPGA bitstream to netlist decompiler
22:24 ^🔗	nitro2k01	Ah!
22:24 ^🔗	nitro2k01	How long ago did it go down?
22:24 ^🔗	nitro2k01	Theory, maybe they switched to a new IP address and the content is still on an old server
22:25 ^🔗	nitro2k01	Although there were no records for the domain in dnshistory.org
22:25 ^🔗	balrog	nitro2k01: months ago :/
22:25 ^🔗	balrog	I'd like the whole git but that would be messy
22:29 ^🔗	balrog	gah, now filesonic is gone too :<
22:50 ^🔗	SketchCow	Wait for Scribd and Dropbox, that'll be exciting.
22:51 ^🔗	nitro2k01	I think Dropbox will remain mostly untouched because of their image
22:51 ^🔗	DFJustin	nice thing about dropbox is that wayback can grab their download urls
22:52 ^🔗	nitro2k01	Just waiting to see how long Rapidshit will make it though
22:52 ^🔗	DFJustin	so if there's some stuff you wanna keep up, grab it from liveweb.archive.org/
22:53 ^🔗	nitro2k01	Rapidshit, with the ironic slogan "the no-wait company"
22:55 ^🔗	SketchCow	I think going "THIS file-sharing site is safe" is not wise.
22:56 ^🔗	nitro2k01	Maybe not, but the end of the dy some ar at greater risk than others
22:56 ^🔗	SketchCow	No, I think they're all at risk.
22:56 ^🔗	SketchCow	It's quite obvious they're going to step through them all.
22:57 ^🔗	SketchCow	http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/14-free-megaupload-alternatives/
22:57 ^🔗	SketchCow	Exciting.
22:57 ^🔗	nitro2k01	What I mean by smaller risk is that dropbox will have a much easier job to prove that there are non-infringing uses for them
22:58 ^🔗	nitro2k01	Thus, the risk for legal action is lower
22:58 ^🔗	nitro2k01	Just saying "it's all the same" is bullshit
22:58 ^🔗	SketchCow	Yeah, I remember that part where the US government has been letting places prove they can be used other ways before grabbing all their servers.
22:58 ^🔗	SketchCow	They do that all the time.
22:58 ^🔗	SketchCow	ALLL the time.
22:58 ^🔗	SketchCow	"Hey, drug dealer, is this just a legitimate business?"
22:59 ^🔗	SketchCow	"Hey, guy with flashy car, are you a drug dealer?"
22:59 ^🔗	SketchCow	Watch them Ragnarok the whole thing.
22:59 ^🔗	SketchCow	Ragnarok: A Verb
22:59 ^🔗	balrog	SketchCow: is there any way to get that file from IA?
23:00 ^🔗	balrog	ahh yeah it's 100MB :<
23:00 ^🔗	balrog	because it contains tests
23:00 ^🔗	nitro2k01	Risk is a continuum, not an on/off switch. Just saying.
23:00 ^🔗	SketchCow	Tests?
23:00 ^🔗	balrog	I can't find this freaking thing anywhere else
23:00 ^🔗	balrog	yeah
23:00 ^🔗	balrog	it's an FPGA bitstream decompiler
23:00 ^🔗	balrog	it includes testcases
23:00 ^🔗	nitro2k01	Is it 100 MB even after bzip2?
23:00 ^🔗	balrog	yes
23:00 ^🔗	balrog	I found an old version
23:01 ^🔗	SketchCow	Chances are excellent that they don't have it.
23:01 ^🔗	SketchCow	Wayback isn't perfect by a longshot.
23:01 ^🔗	NovaKing	oh jeepers, only up to 0F
23:01 ^🔗	balrog	IA that is?
23:01 ^🔗	balrog	:/
23:01 ^🔗	balrog	I'm surprised no one backed it up
23:01 ^🔗	balrog	there was a slashdot article on the academic paper related to this
23:01 ^🔗	balrog	:/
23:01 ^🔗	SketchCow	So maybe it's out in the wide world.
23:01 ^🔗	balrog	google did not help
23:03 ^🔗	DFJustin	well http://web.archive.org/http://www.ulogic.org/~jb/debit/downloads/tarballs/debit-latest.tar.bz2 redirects to http://web.archive.org/web/20110624184833/http://www.ulogic.org/~jb/debit/downloads/tarballs/debit-latest.tar.bz2
23:03 ^🔗	DFJustin	which leads me to believe they did crawl it
23:03 ^🔗	balrog	yeah
23:03 ^🔗	balrog	that just 502s, probably due to size
23:03 ^🔗	nitro2k01	Send the guy an e-mail jean-baptiste.note@m4x.org
23:03 ^🔗	nitro2k01	http://jbnote.free.fr/
23:03 ^🔗	balrog	I was gonna do that
23:03 ^🔗	balrog	I guess that's the best solution
23:03 ^🔗	DFJustin	there are bigger files than that in wayback
23:04 ^🔗	DFJustin	but it could be contributing to it farting
23:04 ^🔗	balrog	then why does it 502?
23:04 ^🔗	SketchCow	Yeah, I'd say asking the guy would be best.
23:04 ^🔗	balrog	I've been getting a lot of unusual wayback instability lately :<
23:04 ^🔗	DFJustin	lots of wayback pages go down temporarily and then come back
23:04 ^🔗	balrog	I know
23:04 ^🔗	SketchCow	The wayback machine is a little sick right now.
23:05 ^🔗	NovaKing	did you guys see this i posted a while ago
23:05 ^🔗	NovaKing	http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/01/renewing-old-resolutions-for-new-year.html
23:05 ^🔗	marceloan	Filesonic disabled file sharing. Now it's only a file storage website.
23:05 ^🔗	SketchCow	Nice set, NovaKing
23:08 ^🔗	bsmith093	hows that work?
23:09 ^🔗	bsmith093	i cant grab a fs link and post it else where?
23:10 ^🔗	bsmith093	wow, yeah they're storage only now, whats left, multiupload?
23:11 ^🔗	NovaKing	there are a lot of cyberlockers
23:11 ^🔗	SketchCow	I like that they're open sourcing skymap.
23:11 ^🔗	NovaKing	yeah
23:11 ^🔗	SketchCow	Bravo on that one!
23:11 ^🔗	NovaKing	i was impressed about that
23:16 ^🔗	marceloan	4shared, 2shared, RapidShare and the others from Multiupload.
23:17 ^🔗	marceloan	What are the projects for now?
23:19 ^🔗	SketchCow	http://www.dbit.com/fdadap.html
23:19 ^🔗	SketchCow	Just ordered 2 of them.
23:20 ^🔗	SketchCow	Allows the hooking of 8" drives to a "regular" Floppy drive adapter, i.e. for 3.5 or 5.25.
23:20 ^🔗	SketchCow	Which can then be hooked to a kryoflux.
23:20 ^🔗	SketchCow	So yeah, like that.
23:36 ^🔗	Ymgve	SketchCow: do you know if kryoflux still has problems with c64 double sided disks?
23:40 ^🔗	SketchCow	You mean the flippy issue.
23:40 ^🔗	SketchCow	EVERYTHING has problems with the flippy issue.
23:42 ^🔗	balrog	SketchCow: which is why flippy disks should be flipped to dump, right?
23:43 ^🔗	balrog	advancing the head to negative tracks is not necessarily good for the drive, even after the modifications :/
23:45 ^🔗	balrog	SketchCow: the FDADAP is REALLY nifty
23:45 ^🔗	balrog	there's another thing you need though: a dual 5V/24V power supply with a 6-pin Mate-N-Lok connector
23:46 ^🔗	balrog	and, the proper AC connector for the spindle motor, if it's a drive that takes AC power for that
23:46 ^🔗	Ymgve	You can flip the actual magnetic disc inside the housing, but that pretty much is sacriliege when it comes to originals
23:46 ^🔗	balrog	Ymgve: no, I meant flip the whole disk in the drive
23:46 ^🔗	balrog	as was the case back with the originals
23:47 ^🔗	balrog	the trick is the index hole â¦ gonna have to think a little about that
23:47 ^🔗	Ymgve	balrog: the problem is then that most floppy drives don't want to read them, due to not detecting the index hole
23:47 ^🔗	balrog	I've been working with floppy analysis and have a KF as well as other devices that are similar
23:47 ^🔗	balrog	yes I do realize
23:47 ^🔗	balrog	what I really want to do is flux-dump DEC RL-01/02 disk packs
23:48 ^🔗	balrog	(hopefully RK-05 too)
23:50 ^🔗	balrog	Ymgve: you have a lot of flippy disks?
23:50 ^🔗	Ymgve	yeah
23:50 ^🔗	balrog	hmm
23:50 ^🔗	balrog	actually
23:50 ^🔗	balrog	I think I do too
23:50 ^🔗	Ymgve	but most of them can be dumped with a combination of 1541 drive + cable + old DOS machine
23:50 ^🔗	balrog	I'll do some investigation into this over the next couple of weeks
23:50 ^🔗	Ymgve	but I only got a serial cable, so originals are a problem
23:50 ^🔗	balrog	I see
23:51 ^🔗	Ymgve	there are solutions, but not "easy" ones - you can replace the photosensor with a magnetic switch placed on the drive spindle, for example
23:51 ^🔗	balrog	yeah I saw that
23:51 ^🔗	balrog	what 5.25" drives are these?
23:51 ^🔗	balrog	the TEAC?
23:52 ^🔗	Ymgve	don't remember at the moment, it's been a while since I did dumping now
23:52 ^🔗	Ymgve	(oh, also, I use Catweasel at the moment, but if kf fixes this problem I'll switch)
23:53 ^🔗	balrog	I have access to a catweasel too
23:53 ^🔗	balrog	do you use the beta drivers?
23:53 ^🔗	balrog	or cwtool or what?
23:53 ^🔗	Ymgve	cwtool
23:53 ^🔗	DFJustin	it can't be fixed at the controller level
23:55 ^🔗	balrog	DFJustin: does it have to do with the TEAC's MCU?
23:56 ^🔗	balrog	also, the issues with the Catweasel are pretty much all because of the way the software and firmware is written
23:56 ^🔗	balrog	the hardware itself isn't all that bad :/
23:56 ^🔗	balrog	cwtool can't improve on the firmware which is proprietary and closed-source
23:56 ^🔗	DFJustin	yeah I think it's the mcu on the drive side
23:58 ^🔗	*	balrog looks at the TEAC schematics

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