[00:00] wooooo [00:00] I've finally arrived in life! [00:04] chronomex: no, no you haven't [00:14] Someone accidentally the sarcasm [00:14] But who? [00:22] Oh god second season of sherlock so good, worth going to copyright jail [00:22] HANDCUFF MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE [00:23] :) [00:23] ONE MILLION DOLLARS! [00:23] WITHOUT PREJUDICE! [00:23] No jail can hold me [00:24] Not when the dream of archive team burns in my eyes [00:24] By the way, without a doubt, this new machine would definitely rape the dog [00:24] I went for the name ASSPOUNDR9K [00:25] I can run 4 HD streams in the editor at once. [00:25] Should've named it K9ASSPOUNDR9K [00:25] Running at full 1080p [00:25] For ultimate dog rape [00:25] That's it's superhero name [00:25] By night it dons a collar and becomes K9ASSPOUNDR9K [00:25] Soon I'll find it logged into Xbox Live and used that gamertag. [00:26] Kill Skynet before it kills you [00:28] http://www.archive.org/details/ddp-24_fortran_ii [00:28] Yes, yes. [00:42] wow... [00:42] has it really been almost a year already? [00:48] Since what [00:49] since yipdw's post about helping archive google video sucked me in here [00:50] Oooh, since you joined the island of lost boys [00:50] BANGARANG [00:52] bangarang [00:54] Hooray, the FTP site went offline [00:55] so has anyone tried the bangarang media player (a KDE multimedia program) ? [00:55] Not here [01:51] hmm, wget-warc just puked a mean looking error on my terminal [01:51] do I do something with it or just rerun seesaw? [01:52] depends on the error but probably rerun if it was doing ok up til then [01:52] i'll stuff it in a corner just in case and rerun [01:53] oh - silly me - drive is full [02:06] full drives suck [02:07] the steady state of disks is full [02:17] does the tracker round robin the items so it's evenly distributed? [02:17] I've been getting "no itemname..." for awhile. hoping im not banned again [02:21] its been limited [02:22] to like 80 usernames / something [02:22] for everyone that way we dont DOS them [02:24] yep [02:24] and we are at the stage [02:25] where members have infi looping [02:25] Downloading com/business/bankbroadway <-- this one has been running nearly 24 hours now, LOL [02:26] https://ezcrypt.it/aP4n#lWcYHgWYJW46YiMySpkL3ZP7 [02:26] this crap [02:26] :( [02:32] I like focus follows mouse, and in my day job, I use Windows, so I wanted to try to get it there, and it's rather easy actually- change a registry key or use TweakUI [05:45] OK, guys. [05:47] So, who wants to reverse engineer the Kryoflux? [05:48] the hardware or the software? [05:51] All. [05:51] heh [05:51] Here's the deal. [05:52] That whole well is poisoned, as a number of people in this channel have worked to make clear to me. [05:52] they are correct. [05:56] what are you wanting done? I can make a shoot out to people i know that love doing that kind of shit [06:01] I think it's time to write software that deals with the Kryoflux as a piece of equipment and generates something raw from it. [06:01] But the problem is deeper than that. [06:01] I'm just thinking out loud, is all. [06:03] You know how you get into some situations where you go 'this can only end with arguments and screaming'? [06:03] This is one of those. [06:03] So there's basically three types of disks one would read. Well, 3 types of media, but let's go with disks for the moment. [06:03] 1. Commercial, Protected Software [06:03] 2. Unprotected private individual disks [06:04] 3. Commercial/Canonical, Unprotected Software [06:04] Now, to me, 2 is the most important. [06:04] You read one of those, you'll likely read the only copy that exists. [06:05] After than, comes 3, which can be read like anything else, and will have many analogues out there. [06:05] Then 1. [06:06] 1. is very important, but it's ground I don't care about as much because so many copies exist. [06:07] But one of the thematic issues they have is "we did all this work for preservation and we will not let you take our lephrechaun gold of this unique software and just uise it willy nilly and ruin our good name. [06:07] And that is reflected in that utterly henious license condition that was mentioned to me. [06:08] And yes, the more I read it, the more I realize I can never really use IPF [06:08] So that was a little journey. [06:08] the journey is done. [06:09] I'll bring my report to Brewster and keep going here. [06:09] This is part of why I like doing things with the CD-ROMs. [06:09] CD-ROMs, there are arguments about ISO vs. BIN/CUE [06:09] But that's it. [06:09] yeah. [06:11] Coderjoe: Congrats on your anniversary! [06:11] Mine was in February, Yahoo Video [06:11] :) [06:13] SketchCow: If I end up getting one, I'll work on it, but it'd be more of a "learn to reverse" project for me [06:14] YOU have enough on your plate. [06:14] lol [06:14] :D [06:14] true [06:14] but there's always a little room [06:14] Getting a little pudgy aren't you underscor [06:14] just pile it on top of the peas and potatoes [06:15] nothing like a good mashed up schlop [06:15] I need to convince brewster to let me back out there again this summer \o/ [06:15] cd-roms are actually gonna get more complicated soon since people are working on real raw reading [06:16] Yes, I can't wait [06:16] And by I can't wait I mean I don't overly care. [06:16] I do a good enough job, then catalog, then store. [06:16] So if it turns out more love is needed, great. [06:16] yep that's a good philosophy [06:17] SketchCow needs more love [06:17] The problem, as you are hopefully seeing where I'm going, is this whole paralysis and insult until perfection thing. [06:17] It's cancer. [06:17] Yeah :( [06:17] It's entirely cancer. [06:17] I mean, you kinda talked about that in your PDA talk [06:17] "Well, is this the BEST way to do it? Oh, well, it's dead now" [06:18] also as far as I know there is no way for anyone but sps to create ipfs, even disregarding the license [06:18] The quickest way to settle a housing dispute is to burn the house down. [06:18] That is my favorite Jason Scott quote [06:18] ever [06:18] I dunno there are a lot to choose from [06:18] That is the best one [06:19] I mean [06:19] they're all the best [06:19] but that's the bestest [06:19] :> [06:19] What was that IRC website where there were a few dozen of his quotes [06:19] For an experiment, I'm digitizing a bunch of material right now. [06:19] I mean CD-ROMs. [06:19] But they're GDC CD Roms. [06:19] BlueMax: You mean you didn't bookmark it? :o [06:19] what an undedicated fan [06:20] for disk categories 2 and 3 there are fortunately good alternative solutions out there like zoomfloppy for cbm and retrofloppy cables for apple [06:20] I'm revoking your membership [06:20] fuck I'm tired [06:20] sleeptime! [06:20] But [06:20] I wanna be a fangirl :( [06:20] lol [06:22] Christ [06:22] I need to remember where it is [06:25] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Jason_Scott_at_Internet_Archive.jpg/450px-Jason_Scott_at_Internet_Archive.jpg < this is my data. There are many like it but this data is mine [06:26] But damnit SketchCow, I remember whois-ing you and finding the channel and a link to the page [06:26] You said it was somewhere you...damnit, remember...you didn't take part in for a while? [06:26] Wait, why am I appealing to you [06:31] I tried. :| [06:35] I'm not a fangirl ;_; [06:45] SketchCow: it's just the sort of thing that ought to be an open hardware type project [06:45] plug your floppy drive into your arduino, plug the arduino into your computer, upload this software [06:45] or whatever it is you want to put there in the middle [06:49] hi [06:53] hello [07:01] i [07:24] cool [07:24] archive.org has an opds server now [07:25] db48x``: i think the kryoflux started out that way, but discovered that the timer resolution and ram space on the AVR in the arduino wasn't enough [07:25] or catalog, I should say [07:25] Coderjoe: probably [07:25] so they moved to a custom board with a bigger atmel chip [07:25] yea [07:26] lol, the braille playboy is the fifth most downloaded book in the catalog [07:27] atmel at91sam7s256 to be precise [07:28] and the only thing actually in the hardware is a bootloader [07:28] the PC software loads the actual firmware up on first use after powerup [07:29] i kinda wish it were configurable enough to allow me to use this 2xSDS duplicator drive. spins at 600RPM and can read or write both sides at once [07:30] but, looking at the schematic, the pins used to read the other side are wired up as output pins on the KF board [07:31] (yes, I am tainted, as far as a cleanroom RE effort goes. not completely poisoned, though, as I haven't looked at any source code) [14:15] Making space on FOS. [14:18] This is a real problem. [14:18] I really think we need to think out the FOS thing. [14:18] Or the mobileme thing. [14:18] At full bore, I can't shove stuff into archive.org as fast as it's coming in [14:18] Ugh... [14:27] your downloading it faster than you can upload it? [14:29] Hell yeah [14:30] Most people use seesaw also.. which means it'll go directly to that machine [14:30] I fill my disks up with dld-client which doesn't upload, when it's done I manually start a upload process [14:33] I've cleared up 3tb. [14:35] Neato [14:51] Perhaps we should move more people to the seesaw-s3 version that uploads mobileme directly to archive.org. [14:52] oh ... i didn't know s3 version existed ... how can i switch to it? [14:55] * SmileyG head explode [14:56] :D [14:56] You don't, unless you're given seesaw-s3 :) [14:56] ok, thanks :-) [14:57] primus102: The point with the s3 version is that you need to be able to upload 5GB in one go, in a reasonable amount of time. [14:57] i know it's probably silly question, but why doesn't upload script upload directly to archive.org? [14:58] I see. thanks alard [14:58] primus102: So if your connection is fast and stable enough, the direct upload would be an option. If not, rsync is easier. [14:59] I'll stick to rsync for the start ;-) [15:00] I think i upload at less than 1MB/s atm, so i guess it'd rule me out anyway [15:02] i could but it'd get raised eyebrows ¬_¬ [15:04] hehe, i wonder what my isp will say, archive team stuff + some other stuff amounted to 50GB download in less than a day :D [15:46] "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; archive.org_bot +http://www.archive.org/details/archive.org_bot)" <- hello you wonderful cute little love robot! [15:47] Someone should make a user agent that says "Mozilla/5.0 (incompatible; ..." just because [15:52] primus102: your ISP shouldn't say shit, you're paying for pipes [15:52] only asshole ISPs do trafic limits and shaping [15:57] awesome, so archive.org downloads zip files too [16:15] https://twitter.com/#!/textfiles/status/182863367076188162 [16:15] MAKING FRIENDS [16:16] ribbons! [16:16] 4k is the new 64k [16:16] particles are the new ribbons [16:24] demoscene? [16:25] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demoscene [16:25] http://www.pouet.net/topic.php?which=4439&com=25&which=4439&com=25&page=1&x=22&y=17 [16:26] * SmileyG clearly thinks modern computing enviroments do osmething different [16:44] This reminds me of COMPUTER BEACH PARTY so freckin' much: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qEfO5iNicI (Title: "Sand Sharks Trailer") [16:45] SmileyG: Do what different? Incoherent line :) [17:13] INBOX 9 [18:14] INBOX ... uh, INBOX 481. [18:16] uh? [18:16] nah, cuz sometimes we need sas [18:16] ok [18:16] trying to stay ahead...also while you were out ...had to replace a hdd on brewster it was the only 1tb drive in the DC...not sure if you want to order a spare [18:16] brewster was misc so thats sata [18:17] hm, maybe I shouldn't copy to a logged channel [18:17] oh, old http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Brewster [20:12] http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/03/isp-storing-25-petabytes-of-megaupload-data-costs-us-9000-a-day.ars [20:14] IT'S OVER NINE THOOOOUSAND! [20:14] heh [20:17] I just realized this monster machine here could render all the footage for the GET LAMP raw interviews RATHER QUICKLY I MIGHT SAY [20:45] https://twitter.com/#!/textfiles/status/182930627799162881 [20:48] "...if that data needs to be preserved, someone else—the government, Megaupload, or an interested party such as the MPAA or EFF—should bear the costs of preserving the data." [20:48] "someone else" [20:52] hmm if they're considering putting it up temporarily it would be good to compile a most-wanted list of stuff to grab [20:53] I'd imagine there's tons of duplicate material in those 25 petabytes. [20:53] Didn't they use deduplication? [20:53] they apparently had deduping for at least hash-identical stuff [20:54] although I'm sure there are lots of repacks/reencodes [20:54] ^ [20:59] I don't get it [20:59] are those MU servers at Carpathia actually being accessed? [20:59] plus, that's not necessarily 25 petabytes of USED space [20:59] if not, and if the data they want is on the disks [20:59] why not just turn the damn things off and put them in a closet [20:59] could include RAID or whatnot too [21:00] are they afraid that the power switch will trigger an ultramagnet that will wipe the disks [21:00] or are they interested in RAM contents too [21:00] they're still powered up and they're still paying equinix for the space [21:00] plus, part of that $9k/day is opportunity cost [21:01] Huh. I got the impression equinix was stuck with the bill. [21:01] sure, and if you throw them all into some place out of the way then that opportunity cost is lowered [21:01] since you now have available rack space, etc. [21:01] the government and mpaa are no longer interested. as far as they are concerned, carpathia can wipe the drives. the EFF got an injunction preventing carpathia from doing so, on behalf of innocent users [21:02] yipdw: but they can't re-use the servers [21:02] hm [21:02] and there is the possibility that the servers might not come back up properly [21:02] (worn out hardware that can't handle powering back up, for example) [21:03] obvious solution #1: open up MegaUpload and let "someone else" back it up [21:03] they apparently have 1.25M in server hardware that they would like to re-use [21:03] I mean, the whole situation seems a little absurd [21:04] but I guess absurdity and legal code go hand in hand [21:04] megaupload is willing to take custody, but the government and MPAA don't want them to have it. [21:04] though I don't know what MU can do without assets [21:05] yeah, that's what I mean by absurd [21:05] it's a big triangle of "nuh-uh" [21:05] well [21:05] quadrilateral if you couny Carpathia [21:06] I'm not a lawyer, but I'd figure you couldn't seize assets until a verdict was reached. How can you mount a case without assets? [21:06] you can hold them as evidence without a verdict [21:07] well, the lawyer has an added incentive to win the case :P [21:10] i like flagging "promoted posts" at twitter as spam [21:10] just hope they do not automatically filter that out [21:10] me too [21:10] I think it's funny that they have the option [21:11] can that be done via an API? [21:11] I think so [21:11] :D [21:12] tweetdeck has a "is spam" button, at least [21:13] http://www.quora.com/How-much-is-a-Promoted-Tweet [21:15] that is the most expensive sequence of <= 140 characters I have ever seen [21:16] obviously this means that you better use the higher Unicode codepoints to minimize your $/byte [21:25] http://www.archive.org/card-catalog.php?identifier=goodytwoshoes00newyiala [21:45] DFJustin: I've forwarded the ISOVIEW discussion to the developers [21:55] thanks [21:56] unrelatedly, http://www.archive.org/details/archiveteam-friendster-fan-profiles is in the wrong collection (should be archive-team-friendster) [22:22] Fixed [22:32] Hey, it turns out a crackhead died of crack [22:32] btw, if any of you noticed I'm balrog_ that's because some squatter / political troll appears to be using balrog as a sockpuppet account [22:40] http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5H3XGfGKJas#t=89s [23:15] SketchCow: wow, you tweeted about that hml5 incident a lot [23:22] What HTML5 incident? [23:22] this asshole wanted to remove the profanity from my diveintohtml5 repo [23:23] someone w/ collab access decided it was a good idea [23:24] well [23:24] it's more making changes when there is an obvious conflict [23:25] is terribly passive aggressive way of dealing with the situation [23:25] removing him from the repo seemed to work pretty well [23:25] he can go fork [23:26] aka 'write a distributed map reduce query' [23:26] exactly [23:26] You don't like my shit? Go fork my ass! [23:34] I didn't tweet a lot. [23:34] I wrote a paragraph [23:34] Don't let twitter's shortness fuck your brain [23:35] Newsflash: eSATA is MUCH faster than USB [23:36] I'm watching it slam through a 1tb drive