#archiveteam 2012-03-23,Fri

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00:10 🔗 Nemo_bis heh, but so much harder to find (unless one wants to spend much more)
00:10 🔗 Nemo_bis my poor eSATA port feels lonely
00:11 🔗 Nemo_bis And it's so silly that it can't give power.
00:13 🔗 Nemo_bis Sigh, http://www.us.archive.org/log_show.php?task_id=98826597&full=1 is at its 4th failure already.
00:17 🔗 SketchCow Definition of insanity for $200, alex
00:21 🔗 BlueMax This word, also known as a common curse word, is generally used a lot in IT.
00:32 🔗 Coderjoe hah. "VD is for Everybody" is again featured as "Curator's Choice" on the ia front page
01:38 🔗 BlueMax arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/03/isp-storing-25-petabytes-of-megaupload-data-costs-us-9000-a-day.ars somewhat interesting article about MU
01:57 🔗 chronomex yes I posted that 6 hours ago
02:01 🔗 SketchCow WOO HOO
02:01 🔗 SketchCow Great, I can't drop my Raylight AVI files into Vegas 11, yet.
02:35 🔗 SketchCow There is a chance I never will!
02:35 🔗 SketchCow That is VERY DEPRESSING
02:35 🔗 SketchCow I am literally looking at a reduced lifetime of my video shot for GET LAMP
02:35 🔗 SketchCow Because I had to go with this crazy fuckstick thing
02:35 🔗 SketchCow Now, luckily, I have the RAW footage fine.
02:36 🔗 SketchCow But I means I have to set a machine aside in another room, doing nothing but rendering
02:37 🔗 primus102 does Vegas support rendering on GPU?
02:38 🔗 dashcloud what is Raylight? I thought I was pretty clued in on video codecs and such, but I've never heard of that one before
02:46 🔗 DFJustin no hits on multimediawiki or ffmpeg.org, damn that is some crazy fuckstick shit there
02:49 🔗 dashcloud my wild guess would be some intermediate codec like cineform
02:52 🔗 SketchCow A long time ago, Panasonic and Sony wouldn't agree on making a codec for Sony Vegas.
02:53 🔗 SketchCow Panasonic wanted money, Sony wanted to rape a kitten and deposit the body in Panasonic's mouth
02:53 🔗 SketchCow But here I was, shooting MXF files, and I wanted to edit them in Vegas
02:53 🔗 SketchCow So I got a program called Raylight, which makes MXF files work in Vegas.
02:54 🔗 SketchCow As an option, you can render out self-contained AVIs, which is what I have. 3,000 of them.
02:54 🔗 SketchCow Or 4,000, something big
02:54 🔗 bsmith094 yay for third parties
02:54 🔗 SketchCow Anyway, as Sony would update Vegas, Raylight would stop working
02:54 🔗 SketchCow So they'd make a new raylight
02:54 🔗 SketchCow And so on
02:54 🔗 SketchCow Apparently, though, 32 bit vegas doesn't work.
02:54 🔗 SketchCow I mean 64
02:57 🔗 dashcloud can you put up a sample? (or at least the fourCC of the file)
02:57 🔗 DFJustin you can install a 32-bit os in virtualbox, there'll be some speed hit but for asspounder9k it shouldn't be too bad
02:58 🔗 aggro And I'd imagine it limits the RAM you can use.
02:58 🔗 DFJustin true
02:59 🔗 dashcloud even better- Windows 7 Pro and up come up with an XP Pro virtual machine- you can probably just use that- if you don't want to reinstall
02:59 🔗 dashcloud or am I thinking of a different feature?
03:00 🔗 DFJustin yeah that might work too
03:01 🔗 dashcloud you could use MS's VHD tool to convert your physical machine into a virtual one, or VMware has a nice converter you can use- not sure if Virtualbox has its own yet
03:03 🔗 SketchCow Oh god no
03:03 🔗 SketchCow Dude, I only have one face to shoot
03:04 🔗 SketchCow I'm going to install a second 32-bit of sony vegas, see if it works
03:05 🔗 bsmith094 is there a live install to vm converter for ubuntu as well, that sounds really useful
03:05 🔗 Coderjoe http://dvfilm.com/raylight/
03:05 🔗 Coderjoe whee
03:07 🔗 Coderjoe huh
03:07 🔗 Coderjoe Supports the newest Sony Vegas Pro 11!
03:13 🔗 dashcloud you may be in luck: Raylight Avi's are currently not supported in 64-bit software. They can be used with 32-bit software on a 64-bit OS
03:13 🔗 dashcloud from Raylight's site
03:14 🔗 Coderjoe i kinda would like to get ahold of a small sample to add to the samples archive and potentially have REd
03:16 🔗 underscor 32 bit vegas won't be able to access >4gb ram though, will it?
03:17 🔗 dashcloud Coderjoe: look here- http://dvfilm.com/raylight/ultra/index.htm
03:17 🔗 Coderjoe if just converting the footage from one format to another, would it need that much ram?
03:17 🔗 aggro According to su, no
03:17 🔗 aggro http://superuser.com/questions/69480/application-cannot-access-more-than-4-gb-on-64-bit-processor
03:17 🔗 dashcloud there's a click here to download a sample, but it's not their AVI export- just the original
03:42 🔗 SketchCow Yep
03:42 🔗 SketchCow 32 Bit Version works
03:42 🔗 SketchCow I installed it, it works
03:42 🔗 SketchCow Thanks for being insane
03:49 🔗 underscor SketchCow: It's much more fun to convert the current system to a virtualized one running on esxi and stuff though
03:49 🔗 underscor hahahaha
04:02 🔗 Coderjoe_ underscor: why would you want to do that on a desktop system?
04:02 🔗 underscor Coderjoe: Someone suggested it earlier
04:02 🔗 underscor I was being facetious
04:02 🔗 underscor :)
04:20 🔗 kennethre http://thewikireader.com/features/
04:21 🔗 aggro1 Because less is always more. ALWAYS.
04:22 🔗 kennethre on sale for $30 on amazon
04:22 🔗 kennethre http://www.amazon.com/Pandigital-Handheld-Electronic-Encyclopedia-WikiReader/dp/B0039NLVB2
04:23 🔗 kennethre that would be so useful in third world countries
04:23 🔗 underscor kennethre: Damn
04:23 🔗 underscor That's cool
04:23 🔗 dnova those have been around for a while
04:23 🔗 aggro1 A stable, growing economy would be more useful to a third world country :P
04:24 🔗 kennethre aggro1: that costs more than $29 :P
05:28 🔗 jonas_ good day
05:28 🔗 dnova greetings
05:30 🔗 jonas_ we got to keep pushing the speed of http://memac.heroku.com
05:31 🔗 dnova good idea
05:36 🔗 jonas_ other question: do you guys know of a solution to create tables better than in mediawiki?
05:38 🔗 jonas_ like a collaborative/wiki version of excel or a databasemanagment software?
05:38 🔗 dnova I guess google docs?
05:40 🔗 SketchCow jonas_: mysql
05:46 🔗 DFJustin saved forever http://www.archive.org/download/cdrom-nf-archive-three-v1.0/nf_archive_three_v1.0.iso/PARTIES%2F1997%2FSILICON.97%2FPHOTOS%2FDRUNKEN_HONK.JPG
05:48 🔗 underscor jonas_ editgrid
05:48 🔗 underscor Oh, damn
05:48 🔗 underscor editgrid is amazing
05:48 🔗 underscor It handled the 14,000 row CSV I threw at it like a beast
05:48 🔗 underscor better than googledocs did
05:50 🔗 jonas__ ....yeah, but is there anything which comes close to a "wiki-dbms" for it, allowing 10 people at the same time to work on tables as well as database structure?
05:51 🔗 underscor <underscor> jonas_ editgrid
05:51 🔗 underscor <underscor> Oh, damn
05:51 🔗 underscor <underscor> editgrid is amazing
05:51 🔗 underscor <underscor> It handled the 14,000 row CSV I threw at it like a beast
05:51 🔗 underscor <underscor> better than googledocs did
05:51 🔗 underscor it's collaborative too
05:51 🔗 underscor but it's just a spreadsheet
05:52 🔗 underscor not a database
05:52 🔗 dnova wow, I was just about to do that, underscor. that would have been awkward. :)
05:52 🔗 underscor :)
05:53 🔗 jonas__ great! let me try that one:)
05:54 🔗 jonas__ Tables: excel --> spreadsheets.google --> mediawiki
05:54 🔗 jonas__ Databases: access --> php-my-admin --> ???
05:54 🔗 jonas__ --> = more collaborative but more limited
05:54 🔗 jonas__ but what we are looking for ultimately of course is something as collaborative as mediawiki and as powerful as e.g. access
05:55 🔗 jonas__ :)
05:55 🔗 underscor I dunno, sorry :)
05:55 🔗 underscor It sounds neat though!
10:05 🔗 Coderjoe lol
10:05 🔗 Coderjoe [Feb 10 12 03:49] <kennethre> too bad amazon doesn't just front an s3 bill for IA
18:18 🔗 SketchCow mobileme-hero-9999z
18:18 🔗 SketchCow > Date: February 18, 2012 10:57:10 AM EST
18:18 🔗 SketchCow > From: Ken Gagne <kgagne@gamebits.net>
18:18 🔗 SketchCow > Subject: Computerworld Shark Bait
18:18 🔗 SketchCow > To: archiveteam@archiveteam.org
18:18 🔗 SketchCow >
18:19 🔗 SketchCow > This user forum, which was set to a read-only state a year ago, will be deleted in the coming month:
18:19 🔗 SketchCow >
18:19 🔗 SketchCow > http://sharkbait.computerworld.com/
18:55 🔗 alard Running Heritrix on the sharkbait forum.
19:00 🔗 SketchCow I'm exploding machines left and right
19:02 🔗 SketchCow With these mobileme uploads.
19:02 🔗 SketchCow But I'm assured it's not a big deal.
19:03 🔗 SketchCow Storm is currently over for fos, at least for now.
19:18 🔗 kennethre hmm, i need to spin a few of those up
19:28 🔗 SketchCow You need to be shoving them direcly into archive.org.
19:29 🔗 kennethre i haven't run any in like a month
19:29 🔗 SketchCow Yeah.
19:29 🔗 SketchCow But you should, and definitely shove them right into archive.org, which alard can help with
19:36 🔗 yipdw I get some sort of weird bliss after doing a bunch of operations on the computer without touching the mouse
19:37 🔗 yipdw off-topic blather for today
20:07 🔗 godane my wget-warc can't make the .gz files
20:07 🔗 godane Could not open WARC file.
20:07 🔗 godane Error opening GZIP stream to WARC file.
20:07 🔗 godane Error writing warcinfo record to WARC file.
20:08 🔗 alard godane: Disk full?
20:08 🔗 godane no
20:08 🔗 godane i have 90gb of space
20:10 🔗 alard It's probably something like that. Permissions, wrong path etc.
20:10 🔗 alard Have you tried wget --warc-file=test http://www.archive.org/
20:12 🔗 godane some error
20:12 🔗 godane *same errror
20:14 🔗 godane nevermind
20:14 🔗 godane i was using a older version
20:14 🔗 godane 2567-dirtly
20:15 🔗 alard kennethre: The memac s3 scripts haven't changed since last time.
20:16 🔗 alard (That is to say: the boot script hasn't changed. The script itself now produces 5GB files.)
22:18 🔗 Coderjoe alard: so does the tamer cause the s3 instances to hold for awhile before being given an OK with an IA item id?
22:19 🔗 Coderjoe (in order to tame the push into IA)
22:31 🔗 alard Coderjoe: Yes, it can limit the number of downloaders and the number of uploaders. The instances waits until they get an upload slot.
22:31 🔗 alard *wait
22:32 🔗 alard But the upload limit is set to 50, so at the moment there's no pause.

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