#archiveteam 2012-05-14,Mon

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00:14 🔗 chronomex okay gang, I have 11 gigabytes of formerly open-source symbian that's been chilling on my disk since december 2010
00:16 🔗 chronomex what shall I do with it
00:25 🔗 SketchCow We all know
00:26 🔗 SketchCow I shove it into the archive
00:28 🔗 chronomex well, lucky you, it looks like I've already preened it and it's on a high-bandwidth pipe
00:28 🔗 * chronomex makes item
00:40 🔗 SketchCow Gotta fill this shit up
00:41 🔗 chronomex SketchCow: does IA support subdirectories in items?
00:41 🔗 SketchCow It does, but it doesn't do good deriving reliably.
00:41 🔗 chronomex okay
00:41 🔗 chronomex I'll stick with flat names then
00:41 🔗 SketchCow I've been shoving hundreds of Synth manuals up
00:42 🔗 SketchCow Helper script, of course.
00:42 🔗 SketchCow But I have to oversee each injection
00:43 🔗 chronomex nothing you can't do with beer in hand
00:44 🔗 SketchCow or Red Bull, yeah
00:44 🔗 chronomex oh right, red bull
00:44 🔗 chronomex I had a coworker ask if I was a teetotaler the other day
00:45 🔗 chronomex because I'm not a binge drinker like every other hacker
00:45 🔗 SketchCow 112 left to do
00:55 🔗 chronomex SketchCow: can you please move http://archive.org/details/SymbianOpenSource into the 'software' collection?
00:56 🔗 noone Im watching Crhis Poole panel on ROLFCon and SketchCow just pass in front of the camera
01:00 🔗 SketchCow Yeah
01:00 🔗 noone hmm, someone already pointed that out in the comments
01:00 🔗 noone its not just me
01:00 🔗 brayden amazing
01:00 🔗 noone you are famous
01:00 🔗 SketchCow http://archive.org/details/SymbianOpenSource
01:00 🔗 SketchCow Now in new collection.
01:01 🔗 SketchCow I'm famous, in a specific way.
01:01 🔗 chronomex rad, thanks.
01:01 🔗 noone yeah, with people that watch panels about internet culture
01:02 🔗 SketchCow Among other things, yes.
01:02 🔗 noone of course
01:02 🔗 noone with people that care with computer culture
01:02 🔗 noone preservation
01:02 🔗 noone the list goes on
01:03 🔗 chronomex with noone
01:05 🔗 noone yes
01:05 🔗 noone the most important kind of fame
01:05 🔗 noone if I know you, thats a good thing
01:06 🔗 SketchCow Wozniak recognizes me by sight now, as does Ze Frank
01:06 🔗 SketchCow I don't need much else
01:06 🔗 noone Wozniak alone would make a life of work worth it
01:07 🔗 chronomex silly deriver, just because it's xml doesn't necessarily mean that it's metadata
01:16 🔗 SketchCow Someone actually grabbed tons of open source repositories, including that one.
01:16 🔗 SketchCow but the more the merrier and I doubt he went to the support materials like you did.
01:17 🔗 Paradoks SketchCow: Are you famous among archivers, now? I know you got a mention in some Library of Congress e-mail.
01:18 🔗 shaqfu Paradoks: Depends
01:18 🔗 shaqfu Digital archivists, yeah; everyone else, not really
01:43 🔗 SketchCow Depends.
01:43 🔗 SketchCow You're talking about a relatively boring, staid field so someone being a fucker who also uses terms like Provenance and Dark Archives is going to get some amusement.
01:44 🔗 chronomex 21st century librarians are still librarians
01:45 🔗 shaqfu God knows the field needs more fuckers, now than ever
01:46 🔗 BlueMax <shaqfu> God knows the field needs more fuckers, now than ever < I thought this was every profession
01:46 🔗 shaqfu Thankfully, the idea of fuckery is gaining support - a lot of people are increasingly unhappy with non-fuckery
01:49 🔗 shaqfu I'll stop here before I end in a rant about library politics :(
01:49 🔗 chronomex okay
01:51 🔗 shaqfu But no, SketchCow is not well-known amongst archivists, since they tend to keep their sights local
01:52 🔗 BlueMax He deserves attention though, for everything he's done.
01:59 🔗 mistym fwiw, the LoC's digital archives newsletter had a short interview with him recently.
02:01 🔗 mistym But yeah, like shaqfu said, a lot of traditional archivists have an irritating tendency to be elitist about the term "archives".
02:06 🔗 noone those archivists
02:06 🔗 noone what they archive
02:07 🔗 noone because anything from the last 2 decades must be digital
02:07 🔗 shaqfu noone: Everything from the dawn of time to now that's on paper
02:08 🔗 noone but that is already archive, in some way
02:08 🔗 noone you dont find 1800s newspapers outside some kind of archive already
02:08 🔗 noone they must be archiving newer things
02:09 🔗 noone that are digital only
02:09 🔗 shaqfu Yes, poorly
02:09 🔗 mistym We are, or at least most larger archives are, but tbh most of us are kind of shit at it.
02:09 🔗 shaqfu And there's still an awful lot coming out still on good ol' fashioned paper
02:09 🔗 mistym ^ Very much this
02:09 🔗 mistym Which is why many smaller archives have gotten on this far by pretending digital doesn't exist. There's plenty for them to archive on paper at the moment.
02:10 🔗 mistym (Especially since there's typically a time gap between when something is created and when it makes its way to an archives.)
02:10 🔗 shaqfu The tidl wave hasn't hit...yet
02:10 🔗 mistym We can see it from a moderately-sized hilltop, mind.
02:10 🔗 shaqfu There's about a 30 year gap between creation and archiving, so email is just hitting now
02:11 🔗 shaqfu And people are losing their heads over it
02:11 🔗 shaqfu Keep in mind, email tends to be well-described via plaintext headers, compared to most records
02:12 🔗 shaqfu If you can't deal with email, God help you...
02:12 🔗 mistym cf. Sarah's Inbox, which took tens of thousands of pages of PRINTED OUT emails, and reconstructed a workable facsimile from OCR.
02:13 🔗 shaqfu That's a distressingly common solution - print it all out and deal with it then!
02:14 🔗 mistym It would be funny if it weren't so worrying.
02:17 🔗 noone sad but true
02:19 🔗 SketchCow Don't worry, my star is rising.
02:19 🔗 SketchCow Let's see how much of it I can use to get things done.
02:19 🔗 SketchCow Proust has come to me and the Internet Archive to ask how they can store things wiht us.
02:19 🔗 shaqfu "Today's agenda: Change world"
02:19 🔗 SketchCow That's a good sign.
02:19 🔗 SketchCow Today's agenda is actually "get interviews ready all this week"
02:23 🔗 SketchCow Actually, today's agenda was previously "set up brother's new TV"
02:23 🔗 SketchCow I got my bro a nice new TV, his tube 19" died
02:23 🔗 SketchCow He went out, and when he was back, I'd re-done the living room with a 42"
02:23 🔗 SketchCow Flatscreen
02:23 🔗 SketchCow It came out of the box internet ready, it's streaming him every episode of every show he's ever liked.
02:23 🔗 SketchCow No issues here
02:23 🔗 LordNlptp nice
02:27 🔗 noone you help out a brother
02:27 🔗 noone literally
02:28 🔗 noone http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/167392/sad_but_true_we_cant_prove_when_.php
04:18 🔗 SketchCow Yeah, Frank.
04:34 🔗 SketchCow Psst, you guys can keep a secret, right
04:34 🔗 SketchCow Looks like archive.org might double outgoing bandwidth this summer.
04:34 🔗 SketchCow Shhh.
05:06 🔗 chronomex o_o_o
05:06 🔗 * chronomex shhh's
05:10 🔗 Nemo_bis I'd love if they doubled s3's capacity, looks like anyhub it's killing it http://s3.us.archive.org:8088/mrtg/networkv2.html
05:12 🔗 * BlueMax sews his mouth shut
05:39 🔗 SketchCow There are, in total, 18 anyhub packs.
05:39 🔗 SketchCow We're at 9.
06:04 🔗 Nemo_bis SketchCow, is Splinder completed?
06:05 🔗 Nemo_bis You mentioned 20 items and I see 12 perhaps
07:02 🔗 SketchCow You answered your own question
07:09 🔗 chronomex mind. blown.
08:15 🔗 SketchCow Anyway, so.
08:16 🔗 SketchCow Splinder was still packing when I started the upload. Anyhub had finished.
08:16 🔗 SketchCow So it got a ways along, and then stopped.
08:16 🔗 SketchCow I'm doing one last sanity check, then I am going to continue the splinder upload
08:16 🔗 SketchCow AND remove the unpacked splinder instance.
08:16 🔗 SketchCow Disk space ahoy
08:20 🔗 SketchCow Whee, deleting 460gb of Anyhub
08:34 🔗 SketchCow root@teamarchive-1:/2/SPLINDER/OUTSPLINDER# tar vtf 00000026.tar | wc -l
08:34 🔗 SketchCow Things a busy machine does not like.
08:34 🔗 SketchCow (Final sanity check is to see that it all tails off properly, then go back and remove original.)
08:44 🔗 SketchCow Splinder upload has resumed.
11:45 🔗 godane may have to look into getting a bluyray burner or hard drive today
13:04 🔗 godane uploading episode 144 of crankygeeks
13:06 🔗 RedType godane: per gb i think bluray might be cheaper but longetivity is untested afaik
13:06 🔗 RedType also speed
14:10 🔗 S[h]O[r]T well i finished 125000 129999
14:10 🔗 S[h]O[r]T 76GB tar
14:11 🔗 S[h]O[r]T where/how to upload?
15:23 🔗 godane uploading episode 151 of crankygeeks
15:26 🔗 Schbirid S[h]O[r]T: awesome!
15:27 🔗 Schbirid 79G is kinda huge though. would you be willing to tar it in smaller chunks instead? 125000-125999 126000.tar, 126999.tar and so on? that would be nicer for archive.org
15:31 🔗 Schbirid afterwards, either send me http links so i can grab them or upload directly to archive.org (best through http://archive.org/help/abouts3.txt ), see http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Fileplanet for a template.
15:32 🔗 Schbirid everyone interested in downloading gaming files from fileplanet, join
15:32 🔗 Schbirid join #fireplanet
15:40 🔗 bear_ schbirid - 115000 11999: 3817 files for 71G
15:40 🔗 Schbirid http://www.pics-hosting.com/files/pq2rhujhnq8fjui7n4sn.png :)
15:41 🔗 Schbirid phew, also so big
16:18 🔗 SketchCow Anyhub is uploaded up to the last part, which is uploading.
16:18 🔗 SketchCow Splinder is uploaded to 19
16:20 🔗 Schbirid in the worst case fileplanet will be 7TB
16:20 🔗 Schbirid i say it will be <4
16:29 🔗 SketchCow Ooops, one of the Splinder sets was broken.
16:29 🔗 SketchCow Just learned a little lesson.
16:30 🔗 godane SketchCow: I got up to 154 episode of crankygeeks uploaded
16:30 🔗 SketchCow Great.
16:30 🔗 godane its almost there
16:30 🔗 godane its a good thing i got them when i did
16:31 🔗 godane from episode 70 and up i used ipod format
16:31 🔗 godane i think
16:32 🔗 godane i also got episode 147 uploaded
16:32 🔗 godane its missing from crankygeeks.com but was on mevio
16:33 🔗 godane with big summary in rss feed still
16:35 🔗 godane looks like dl.tv is down
16:57 🔗 godane episode 156 of crankygeeks is uploaded
16:57 🔗 godane will be back later to see if can finish it
20:53 🔗 Nemo_bis uh, http://www.publicbt.com/ back up
20:54 🔗 Nemo_bis their bz2 shrunk by 5 MB http://archive.org/details/publicbt.com
21:15 🔗 Aranje Has anybody seen underscor recently?
21:19 🔗 Nemo_bis 6 days without him here
21:20 🔗 * Aranje nods
21:21 🔗 Aranje I've got people in other places that are starting to get concerned about his absence :/
21:26 🔗 godane burning my first bluray disc :-D
21:50 🔗 SketchCow Don't be.
21:50 🔗 SketchCow I've been talking to underscor constantly.
21:50 🔗 SketchCow He's quite fine.
21:51 🔗 chronomex man's got a life?
21:51 🔗 SketchCow Righto
21:51 🔗 SketchCow Just finishing school, you know.
21:52 🔗 chronomex o_o
21:52 🔗 chronomex not allowed
21:56 🔗 Swizzle Just saw fileplanet is being shut down - are you guys getting a copy of it before it goes away?
21:58 🔗 Debianer Yes
21:59 🔗 Swizzle Great - That makes me happy because they have a lot of material not found anywhere else right now
22:00 🔗 SketchCow Well holy crap
22:00 🔗 SketchCow One of the guys just got a 10x speedup of the emulation in jsmess.
22:00 🔗 Coderjoe O_O
22:00 🔗 Coderjoe that's pretty big
22:09 🔗 SketchCow http://jsmess.textfiles.com/v0.5/
22:09 🔗 SketchCow It just goes faster now.
22:16 🔗 Coderjoe very close to playable
22:17 🔗 Coderjoe i'm curious what resulted in this speedup
22:17 🔗 SketchCow He found a draw routine was eating 50% of the CPU slice
22:17 🔗 SketchCow He fixed that.
22:18 🔗 SketchCow Did processing analysis, etc.
22:18 🔗 SketchCow Thinks he can get it to realtime shortly.
22:18 🔗 Coderjoe so it was a problem with the mess draw routine rather than emscripten. cool
22:20 🔗 SketchCow Yes
22:20 🔗 SketchCow Well, sort of.
22:20 🔗 SketchCow It was technically emscripten's creation of the draw routine based on what MESS was doing.
22:20 🔗 Coderjoe ah
22:26 🔗 SketchCow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QodGtTU69uQ
22:26 🔗 BlueMax lol
22:37 🔗 SketchCow ....and he just got the CPU loop from 40ms a loop to 3.
22:39 🔗 Coderjoe sweet
23:53 🔗 dashcloud congrats SketchCow on a very successful year at the Internet Archive- here's to many, many more!
23:54 🔗 SketchCow That's my plan!
23:57 🔗 dashcloud I was planning to upload some new shareware CDs, only to find out none of them are actually shareware CDs- just a pile of generic games

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