Time |
Nickname |
Message |
00:14
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chronomex |
okay gang, I have 11 gigabytes of formerly open-source symbian that's been chilling on my disk since december 2010 |
00:16
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|
chronomex |
what shall I do with it |
00:25
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SketchCow |
We all know |
00:26
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SketchCow |
I shove it into the archive |
00:28
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|
chronomex |
well, lucky you, it looks like I've already preened it and it's on a high-bandwidth pipe |
00:28
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|
* |
chronomex makes item |
00:40
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SketchCow |
Gotta fill this shit up |
00:41
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|
chronomex |
SketchCow: does IA support subdirectories in items? |
00:41
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|
SketchCow |
It does, but it doesn't do good deriving reliably. |
00:41
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chronomex |
okay |
00:41
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|
chronomex |
I'll stick with flat names then |
00:41
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|
SketchCow |
I've been shoving hundreds of Synth manuals up |
00:42
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|
SketchCow |
Helper script, of course. |
00:42
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|
SketchCow |
But I have to oversee each injection |
00:43
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|
chronomex |
nothing you can't do with beer in hand |
00:44
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|
SketchCow |
or Red Bull, yeah |
00:44
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|
chronomex |
oh right, red bull |
00:44
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|
chronomex |
I had a coworker ask if I was a teetotaler the other day |
00:45
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|
chronomex |
because I'm not a binge drinker like every other hacker |
00:45
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|
SketchCow |
112 left to do |
00:55
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|
chronomex |
SketchCow: can you please move http://archive.org/details/SymbianOpenSource into the 'software' collection? |
00:56
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|
noone |
Im watching Crhis Poole panel on ROLFCon and SketchCow just pass in front of the camera |
01:00
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|
SketchCow |
Yeah |
01:00
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|
noone |
hmm, someone already pointed that out in the comments |
01:00
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|
noone |
its not just me |
01:00
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|
brayden |
amazing |
01:00
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|
noone |
you are famous |
01:00
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|
SketchCow |
http://archive.org/details/SymbianOpenSource |
01:00
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|
SketchCow |
Now in new collection. |
01:01
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|
SketchCow |
I'm famous, in a specific way. |
01:01
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|
chronomex |
rad, thanks. |
01:01
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|
noone |
yeah, with people that watch panels about internet culture |
01:02
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|
SketchCow |
Among other things, yes. |
01:02
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|
noone |
of course |
01:02
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|
noone |
with people that care with computer culture |
01:02
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|
noone |
preservation |
01:02
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|
noone |
the list goes on |
01:03
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|
chronomex |
with noone |
01:05
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|
noone |
yes |
01:05
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|
noone |
the most important kind of fame |
01:05
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|
noone |
if I know you, thats a good thing |
01:06
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|
SketchCow |
Wozniak recognizes me by sight now, as does Ze Frank |
01:06
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|
SketchCow |
I don't need much else |
01:06
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|
noone |
Wozniak alone would make a life of work worth it |
01:07
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|
chronomex |
silly deriver, just because it's xml doesn't necessarily mean that it's metadata |
01:16
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|
SketchCow |
Someone actually grabbed tons of open source repositories, including that one. |
01:16
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|
SketchCow |
but the more the merrier and I doubt he went to the support materials like you did. |
01:17
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|
Paradoks |
SketchCow: Are you famous among archivers, now? I know you got a mention in some Library of Congress e-mail. |
01:18
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|
shaqfu |
Paradoks: Depends |
01:18
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|
shaqfu |
Digital archivists, yeah; everyone else, not really |
01:43
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|
SketchCow |
Depends. |
01:43
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|
SketchCow |
You're talking about a relatively boring, staid field so someone being a fucker who also uses terms like Provenance and Dark Archives is going to get some amusement. |
01:44
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|
chronomex |
21st century librarians are still librarians |
01:45
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|
shaqfu |
God knows the field needs more fuckers, now than ever |
01:46
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|
BlueMax |
<shaqfu> God knows the field needs more fuckers, now than ever < I thought this was every profession |
01:46
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|
shaqfu |
Thankfully, the idea of fuckery is gaining support - a lot of people are increasingly unhappy with non-fuckery |
01:49
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|
shaqfu |
I'll stop here before I end in a rant about library politics :( |
01:49
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|
chronomex |
okay |
01:51
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|
shaqfu |
But no, SketchCow is not well-known amongst archivists, since they tend to keep their sights local |
01:52
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|
BlueMax |
He deserves attention though, for everything he's done. |
01:59
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|
mistym |
fwiw, the LoC's digital archives newsletter had a short interview with him recently. |
02:01
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|
mistym |
But yeah, like shaqfu said, a lot of traditional archivists have an irritating tendency to be elitist about the term "archives". |
02:06
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|
noone |
those archivists |
02:06
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|
noone |
what they archive |
02:07
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|
noone |
because anything from the last 2 decades must be digital |
02:07
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|
shaqfu |
noone: Everything from the dawn of time to now that's on paper |
02:08
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|
noone |
but that is already archive, in some way |
02:08
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|
noone |
you dont find 1800s newspapers outside some kind of archive already |
02:08
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|
noone |
they must be archiving newer things |
02:09
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|
noone |
that are digital only |
02:09
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|
shaqfu |
Yes, poorly |
02:09
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|
mistym |
We are, or at least most larger archives are, but tbh most of us are kind of shit at it. |
02:09
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|
shaqfu |
And there's still an awful lot coming out still on good ol' fashioned paper |
02:09
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|
mistym |
^ Very much this |
02:09
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|
mistym |
Which is why many smaller archives have gotten on this far by pretending digital doesn't exist. There's plenty for them to archive on paper at the moment. |
02:10
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|
mistym |
(Especially since there's typically a time gap between when something is created and when it makes its way to an archives.) |
02:10
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|
shaqfu |
The tidl wave hasn't hit...yet |
02:10
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|
mistym |
We can see it from a moderately-sized hilltop, mind. |
02:10
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|
shaqfu |
There's about a 30 year gap between creation and archiving, so email is just hitting now |
02:11
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|
shaqfu |
And people are losing their heads over it |
02:11
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|
shaqfu |
Keep in mind, email tends to be well-described via plaintext headers, compared to most records |
02:12
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|
shaqfu |
If you can't deal with email, God help you... |
02:12
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|
mistym |
cf. Sarah's Inbox, which took tens of thousands of pages of PRINTED OUT emails, and reconstructed a workable facsimile from OCR. |
02:13
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|
shaqfu |
That's a distressingly common solution - print it all out and deal with it then! |
02:14
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|
mistym |
It would be funny if it weren't so worrying. |
02:17
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|
noone |
sad but true |
02:19
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|
SketchCow |
Don't worry, my star is rising. |
02:19
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|
SketchCow |
Let's see how much of it I can use to get things done. |
02:19
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Proust has come to me and the Internet Archive to ask how they can store things wiht us. |
02:19
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|
shaqfu |
"Today's agenda: Change world" |
02:19
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|
SketchCow |
That's a good sign. |
02:19
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Today's agenda is actually "get interviews ready all this week" |
02:23
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Actually, today's agenda was previously "set up brother's new TV" |
02:23
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I got my bro a nice new TV, his tube 19" died |
02:23
🔗
|
SketchCow |
He went out, and when he was back, I'd re-done the living room with a 42" |
02:23
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|
SketchCow |
Flatscreen |
02:23
🔗
|
SketchCow |
It came out of the box internet ready, it's streaming him every episode of every show he's ever liked. |
02:23
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|
SketchCow |
No issues here |
02:23
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|
LordNlptp |
nice |
02:27
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|
noone |
you help out a brother |
02:27
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|
noone |
literally |
02:28
🔗
|
noone |
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/167392/sad_but_true_we_cant_prove_when_.php |
04:18
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|
SketchCow |
Yeah, Frank. |
04:34
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|
SketchCow |
Psst, you guys can keep a secret, right |
04:34
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|
SketchCow |
Looks like archive.org might double outgoing bandwidth this summer. |
04:34
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|
SketchCow |
Shhh. |
05:06
🔗
|
chronomex |
o_o_o |
05:06
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|
* |
chronomex shhh's |
05:10
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|
Nemo_bis |
I'd love if they doubled s3's capacity, looks like anyhub it's killing it http://s3.us.archive.org:8088/mrtg/networkv2.html |
05:12
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|
* |
BlueMax sews his mouth shut |
05:39
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|
SketchCow |
There are, in total, 18 anyhub packs. |
05:39
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|
SketchCow |
We're at 9. |
06:04
🔗
|
Nemo_bis |
SketchCow, is Splinder completed? |
06:05
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|
Nemo_bis |
You mentioned 20 items and I see 12 perhaps |
07:02
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|
SketchCow |
You answered your own question |
07:09
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|
chronomex |
mind. blown. |
08:15
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|
SketchCow |
Anyway, so. |
08:16
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Splinder was still packing when I started the upload. Anyhub had finished. |
08:16
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|
SketchCow |
So it got a ways along, and then stopped. |
08:16
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|
SketchCow |
I'm doing one last sanity check, then I am going to continue the splinder upload |
08:16
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|
SketchCow |
AND remove the unpacked splinder instance. |
08:16
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|
SketchCow |
Disk space ahoy |
08:20
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Whee, deleting 460gb of Anyhub |
08:34
🔗
|
SketchCow |
root@teamarchive-1:/2/SPLINDER/OUTSPLINDER# tar vtf 00000026.tar | wc -l |
08:34
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|
SketchCow |
Things a busy machine does not like. |
08:34
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|
SketchCow |
(Final sanity check is to see that it all tails off properly, then go back and remove original.) |
08:44
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|
SketchCow |
Splinder upload has resumed. |
11:45
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|
godane |
may have to look into getting a bluyray burner or hard drive today |
13:04
🔗
|
godane |
uploading episode 144 of crankygeeks |
13:06
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|
RedType |
godane: per gb i think bluray might be cheaper but longetivity is untested afaik |
13:06
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|
RedType |
also speed |
14:10
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|
S[h]O[r]T |
well i finished 125000 129999 |
14:10
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|
S[h]O[r]T |
76GB tar |
14:11
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|
S[h]O[r]T |
where/how to upload? |
15:23
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|
godane |
uploading episode 151 of crankygeeks |
15:26
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|
Schbirid |
S[h]O[r]T: awesome! |
15:27
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|
Schbirid |
79G is kinda huge though. would you be willing to tar it in smaller chunks instead? 125000-125999 126000.tar, 126999.tar and so on? that would be nicer for archive.org |
15:31
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Schbirid |
afterwards, either send me http links so i can grab them or upload directly to archive.org (best through http://archive.org/help/abouts3.txt ), see http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Fileplanet for a template. |
15:32
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|
Schbirid |
everyone interested in downloading gaming files from fileplanet, join |
15:32
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|
Schbirid |
join #fireplanet |
15:40
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|
bear_ |
schbirid - 115000 11999: 3817 files for 71G |
15:40
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|
Schbirid |
http://www.pics-hosting.com/files/pq2rhujhnq8fjui7n4sn.png :) |
15:41
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|
Schbirid |
phew, also so big |
16:18
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Anyhub is uploaded up to the last part, which is uploading. |
16:18
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|
SketchCow |
Splinder is uploaded to 19 |
16:20
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|
Schbirid |
in the worst case fileplanet will be 7TB |
16:20
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|
Schbirid |
i say it will be <4 |
16:29
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|
SketchCow |
Ooops, one of the Splinder sets was broken. |
16:29
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|
SketchCow |
Just learned a little lesson. |
16:30
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|
godane |
SketchCow: I got up to 154 episode of crankygeeks uploaded |
16:30
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|
SketchCow |
Great. |
16:30
🔗
|
godane |
its almost there |
16:30
🔗
|
godane |
its a good thing i got them when i did |
16:31
🔗
|
godane |
from episode 70 and up i used ipod format |
16:31
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|
godane |
i think |
16:32
🔗
|
godane |
i also got episode 147 uploaded |
16:32
🔗
|
godane |
its missing from crankygeeks.com but was on mevio |
16:33
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|
godane |
with big summary in rss feed still |
16:35
🔗
|
godane |
looks like dl.tv is down |
16:57
🔗
|
godane |
episode 156 of crankygeeks is uploaded |
16:57
🔗
|
godane |
will be back later to see if can finish it |
20:53
🔗
|
Nemo_bis |
uh, http://www.publicbt.com/ back up |
20:54
🔗
|
Nemo_bis |
their bz2 shrunk by 5 MB http://archive.org/details/publicbt.com |
21:15
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|
Aranje |
Has anybody seen underscor recently? |
21:19
🔗
|
Nemo_bis |
6 days without him here |
21:20
🔗
|
* |
Aranje nods |
21:21
🔗
|
Aranje |
I've got people in other places that are starting to get concerned about his absence :/ |
21:26
🔗
|
godane |
burning my first bluray disc :-D |
21:50
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Don't be. |
21:50
🔗
|
SketchCow |
I've been talking to underscor constantly. |
21:50
🔗
|
SketchCow |
He's quite fine. |
21:51
🔗
|
chronomex |
man's got a life? |
21:51
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Righto |
21:51
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Just finishing school, you know. |
21:52
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|
chronomex |
o_o |
21:52
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|
chronomex |
not allowed |
21:56
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|
Swizzle |
Just saw fileplanet is being shut down - are you guys getting a copy of it before it goes away? |
21:58
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|
Debianer |
Yes |
21:59
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|
Swizzle |
Great - That makes me happy because they have a lot of material not found anywhere else right now |
22:00
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|
SketchCow |
Well holy crap |
22:00
🔗
|
SketchCow |
One of the guys just got a 10x speedup of the emulation in jsmess. |
22:00
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Coderjoe |
O_O |
22:00
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|
Coderjoe |
that's pretty big |
22:09
🔗
|
SketchCow |
http://jsmess.textfiles.com/v0.5/ |
22:09
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|
SketchCow |
It just goes faster now. |
22:16
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|
Coderjoe |
very close to playable |
22:17
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|
Coderjoe |
i'm curious what resulted in this speedup |
22:17
🔗
|
SketchCow |
He found a draw routine was eating 50% of the CPU slice |
22:17
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|
SketchCow |
He fixed that. |
22:18
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Did processing analysis, etc. |
22:18
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|
SketchCow |
Thinks he can get it to realtime shortly. |
22:18
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|
Coderjoe |
so it was a problem with the mess draw routine rather than emscripten. cool |
22:20
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|
SketchCow |
Yes |
22:20
🔗
|
SketchCow |
Well, sort of. |
22:20
🔗
|
SketchCow |
It was technically emscripten's creation of the draw routine based on what MESS was doing. |
22:20
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Coderjoe |
ah |
22:26
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|
SketchCow |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QodGtTU69uQ |
22:26
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|
BlueMax |
lol |
22:37
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|
SketchCow |
....and he just got the CPU loop from 40ms a loop to 3. |
22:39
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|
Coderjoe |
sweet |
23:53
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|
dashcloud |
congrats SketchCow on a very successful year at the Internet Archive- here's to many, many more! |
23:54
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|
SketchCow |
That's my plan! |
23:57
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|
dashcloud |
I was planning to upload some new shareware CDs, only to find out none of them are actually shareware CDs- just a pile of generic games |