#archiveteam 2013-07-24,Wed

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02:54 🔗 dashcloud can you have a multi-word tag (like animated gifs) or does it have to be one word?
02:55 🔗 winr4r hm?
02:56 🔗 dashcloud I'm uploading an item to IA, and wondering if I can have multi word tags, or just single word tags?
02:56 🔗 winr4r oh, dunno sorry
02:57 🔗 winr4r http://archive.org/search.php?query=mediatype%3Amovies%20AND%20collection%3ANIST_WTC_Repository%20AND%20subject%3A%22No%20Tags%22
02:57 🔗 winr4r if tags == subject, then yes, by the look of that
02:57 🔗 winr4r s/tags/keywords/
02:59 🔗 dashcloud where should shareware and related CDs go? community texts or community media?
02:59 🔗 winr4r community texts i think
02:59 🔗 * winr4r pokes godane, who will know for sure
03:10 🔗 dashcloud just decided to go with community texts- it'll have to get moved anyway
03:12 🔗 winr4r yes
03:37 🔗 dashcloud got a pretty cool upload here: https://archive.org/details/22000Animatedgifs a CD from the mid-90's with 22k animated gifs, and advertising support for Windows, Mac, and Linux (still in the process of deriving)
03:38 🔗 winr4r These Exciting Active Images Keep Your Web Pages Stand Out from Others
03:40 🔗 winr4r dashcloud: hey, is the cover image meant to be broken
03:41 🔗 winr4r nice find btw
04:21 🔗 winr4r so, who is on URLteam here and has a local copy of the URL lists
04:22 🔗 winr4r and is awesome because they want to grep it for me
05:14 🔗 DFJustin that's a lot of gifs
05:53 🔗 ersi winr4r: Well, that might be soultcer if he has time and if he still has all the data. Otherwise, you'll need to download the URLTeam torrent releases and grep 'em yourself.
05:54 🔗 winr4r ersi: yeah, the downside is my bandwidth cap :<
05:54 🔗 winr4r but if that's what i gotta do
06:09 🔗 godane so this is fun
06:09 🔗 godane hak5 909 hd is out of sync for some reason
09:18 🔗 ZoeB Hi! So I've been downloading non-binary Usenet the last few months. Got 2GB so far (turns out it's slow to do using a custom Python script over NNTP)
09:18 🔗 ZoeB Anyway, British Internet censorship seems to be tightening up, and my partner's worried I'll accidentally download a few thousand illegal posts
09:19 🔗 ZoeB I just wanted to check that some other people have Usenet covered before I stop, basically
09:20 🔗 SmileyG ZoeB: illegal how
09:20 🔗 SmileyG unless they are cp.
09:20 🔗 SmileyG and that should be blocked already by the INF (might have that name wrong) blacklist eitherway.
09:20 🔗 SmileyG IWF, there we go
09:21 🔗 ZoeB well eg anything depicting rape may become illegal unless it has enough artistic merit or something arbitrary sounding, so there's alt.sex.stories.moderated out or not, depending on the interpretation
09:21 🔗 SmileyG Oh, I thought that was images only.
09:21 🔗 SmileyG (I'm UK based too btw)
09:21 🔗 ZoeB I have no idea if it's images only...
09:22 🔗 ZoeB I also have no idea if my automated script is getting binary stuff that was, for whatever reason, posted outside of alt.binaries
09:22 🔗 SmileyG yeah, thinking about it I don't either.
09:22 🔗 ZoeB For all I know, 50 Shaes of Grey is illegal here until picked up by a major publisher... :) it's crazy and arbitrary sounding, which is dangerous in itself
09:22 🔗 SmileyG nod.
09:23 🔗 ZoeB Anyway, my partner's getting freaked about legal implications of my digital hoarding, as she calls it :)
09:23 🔗 SmileyG Nod.
09:23 🔗 SmileyG I get that, I sometimes worry myself.
09:23 🔗 SmileyG Hmmmmm
09:23 🔗 SmileyG I can't say if the usenet stuff has been grabbed or not.
09:24 🔗 ZoeB You can get a pretty thorough backup of usenet using the Utzoo tapes, Walnut Creek CD-ROMs (which I haven't found yet), and eg MaximumUsenet.com (which I'm currently leeching via), or anyone else with decades-old retention
09:25 🔗 ZoeB I'm happy to stop for the sake of my partner's sanity, but just as that would help her sleep better at night, it'd help me sleep better at night to know that someone, anyone, is preserving all those decades of usenet.
09:25 🔗 SmileyG have you published your scripts?
09:26 🔗 ZoeB Yep: https://github.com/ZoeB/arcmesg
09:26 🔗 SmileyG good job :)
09:26 🔗 ZoeB if that counts
09:26 🔗 ZoeB It grabs over e-mail and usenet, and puts each message in a well-organised directory based on the hash of the unique message ID
09:26 🔗 ZoeB I've also nabbed lots of mailing lists (music, GNU, etc) and will import those into my stash of messages
09:26 🔗 winr4r is it me or did zoe blade actually just show up in here
09:27 🔗 ZoeB I do that occasionally... not often. :)
09:27 🔗 ZoeB Where do you know me from? :D
09:27 🔗 winr4r ZoeB: get lamp soundtrack
09:28 🔗 ZoeB Ah, well spotted!
09:28 🔗 winr4r and other things!
09:28 🔗 ZoeB Ooh
09:30 🔗 ZoeB Anyway, yeah, there's the script if anyone wants it. Find a news server with decades-lasting retention, run that script, come back a few months or so later. :) Mine's running on a raspberry pi, which is slow but works very well. It's just a shame I have to stop
09:36 🔗 winr4r hm :/
09:37 🔗 winr4r yeah i don't know how "i just ran this script and didn't pay any attention to what the fuck it was grabbing" is much of a legal defense here
09:37 🔗 winr4r and i can see why you would not like to be the first person to find out one way or the other
09:38 🔗 SmileyG Thats you/~? yey
09:39 🔗 ZoeB Yeah, I mean, I want to preserve usenet, but not enough to serve time... Especially as we're watching Orange is the New Black and it's so depressing... Heh
09:40 🔗 * ZoeB stops the script -.-
09:41 🔗 * winr4r plays funeral music
09:41 🔗 ZoeB Well it was fun while it lasted
09:41 🔗 winr4r on the other hand, the bullshit laws aren't here *yet*
09:44 🔗 ZoeB At least I'm still archiving a mailing list or two...
09:45 🔗 winr4r which is plenty useful!
09:45 🔗 ZoeB Yeah, it's a pretty interesting one to a small niche of people including myself, heh.
09:48 🔗 winr4r given enough time, everything becomes interesting
09:48 🔗 winr4r who gave a shit about saving some guy's announcement that he was making a unix clone in 1983, right
09:48 🔗 ZoeB Haha, Nina's still giving me funny looks over you "spotting" me
09:48 🔗 * ZoeB hides
09:49 🔗 ZoeB Stallman? Yeah, in hindsight it's easier to spot what's useful.
09:49 🔗 ZoeB Or the announcement of Berners-Lee's new fangled hypertext protocol
09:50 🔗 ZoeB Or how we should try using ":-)" to depict jokes so people don't take them seriously
09:51 🔗 winr4r yes
09:51 🔗 SmileyG Nina being your OH?
09:51 🔗 ZoeB Yes. :)
09:52 🔗 ZoeB She's sticking Teflon to her mouse right now by the looks of things
09:52 🔗 SmileyG (may of been a cat, my cats give me funny looks all the time :))
09:52 🔗 ZoeB Haha
09:52 🔗 ZoeB No, she's my partner. :)
09:52 🔗 SmileyG And right about now I say we should take the offtopic chat to -bs if you don't mind :)
09:52 🔗 ZoeB Sorry
09:58 🔗 underscor omg, Zoe blade
09:58 🔗 underscor that's so cool
09:59 🔗 underscor ZoeB: I'll probably end up kicking off the scripts on a box here at archive.org, too
10:00 🔗 SmileyG ^_^
10:00 🔗 ZoeB Thanks
10:00 🔗 ZoeB Heh, Nina suspects you're humouring me now ;)
10:00 🔗 SmileyG Oh he's not. He loves abusing anything he can at IA.
10:00 🔗 underscor :D
10:00 🔗 underscor Underscor, the sadist
10:01 🔗 winr4r fifty shades of IA
10:01 🔗 underscor ZoeB: I am a big fan from the soundtrack-y stuff you've done for GL, 8-bit, etc
10:01 🔗 underscor winr4r: Oh yes, paddle me with the 4tb one this time~
10:01 🔗 ZoeB Thanks!
10:02 🔗 underscor :)
10:02 🔗 ZoeB You should watch the Defcon documentary when that comes out. :)
10:02 🔗 underscor I've seen it!
10:02 🔗 * underscor was part of the crew
10:03 🔗 SmileyG I wanna see it
10:03 🔗 ZoeB Oh, cool! Hmm, should we take this to -bs too?
10:03 🔗 underscor The audio is quite lovely.
10:03 🔗 underscor Oh, bah, I suppose ;P
11:17 🔗 ZoeB OK, time for me to get more work done... See you lovely people later o/
12:11 🔗 SmileyG o/
13:05 🔗 SketchCow MORNING team.
13:05 🔗 SketchCow We
13:06 🔗 SketchCow We'll see how many people from this event will join archive team.
13:32 🔗 omf_ Did they record it?
14:07 🔗 SketchCow I did.
14:12 🔗 joepie91 SketchCow: what event?
14:13 🔗 SketchCow NDSA: National Agenda Roundtable
14:14 🔗 joepie91 aha
14:24 🔗 SketchCow http://www.ask-kalena.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/jason-scott-webstock2013.jpg
14:24 🔗 SketchCow Whoops
14:24 🔗 SketchCow http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-23/selling-off-detroit-s-art-could-depress-global-market.html
14:25 🔗 SmileyG hmmmm
14:25 🔗 SmileyG why is my snapjoy upload on S3 still not showing :(
14:27 🔗 DFJustin anything showing in https://archive.org/catalog.php?justme=1 ?
14:29 🔗 SmileyG snapjoy_images - History Mgr 167733559ia600904 Xamayon derive.php(2.5 hours) djsmiley2k@gmail.comdir=/26/items/snapjoy_ima..
14:29 🔗 DFJustin yeah that has to finish before it will show up
14:29 🔗 DFJustin SketchCow: you did the same switcheroo on twitter just now
14:30 🔗 SmileyG DFJustin: I always forget that URL for checking ;D
14:30 🔗 SmileyG redfishmagazinedeleted - History Mgr 126165850iw600701 Xamayon derive.php(294.3 days) << ol
15:33 🔗 omf_ The backup of Toile Libre is up https://archive.org/details/pix_toile-libre_org 70gb of images plus sql database dumps.
15:36 🔗 omf_ If no one else has backed up buzzdata that will be next on my list. I am going to scrape the user list and then use the api to grab all the datasets
15:41 🔗 Xamayon [10:28] <SmileyG> snapjoy_images - History Mgr 167733559ia600904 Xamayon derive.php(2.5 hours) djsmiley2k@gmail.comdir=/26/items/snapjoy_ima.. <--- what?
15:42 🔗 winr4r Xamayon: he downloaded snapjoy
15:42 🔗 winr4r give him a hug
15:44 🔗 winr4r Xamayon: oh, your name got in there because i think he posted from a tab-separated file, with X as one of the columns :)
15:45 🔗 Xamayon ahhhh, okay... thought someone might be impersonating me for a second :D
16:14 🔗 joepie91 http://www.webcitation.org/
16:15 🔗 joepie91 WebCite is under threat of shutdown
16:15 🔗 joepie91 unless fundraising goal is reached
16:15 🔗 joepie91 code red
16:16 🔗 winr4r joepie91: of not taking new submissions, which is a bit different
16:17 🔗 joepie91 winr4r: which is usually followed by...
16:18 🔗 winr4r SketchCow: t jason can you upload the audio, i can try to clean it up if it needs it and if you don't have time
16:18 🔗 winr4r joepie91: yeah, let's hope not
16:22 🔗 ersi joepie91: Yes, it's been like that for quite a while unfortunately
16:24 🔗 soultcer winr4r: Tell me what URLs to look for and I can search the urlteam data. It will take a couple of days though.
16:29 🔗 winr4r soultcer: *.webtv.net
16:30 🔗 soultcer kk
17:01 🔗 Aranje it makes sense that we'd just approach webcite's people and ask for a copy of the db if they go under?
17:16 🔗 DFJustin yeah they don't seem like the types to just throw the hdds into the wood chipper when the money runs out
17:20 🔗 DFJustin it's worth supporting as a tool to help ordinary people preserve stuff though
18:29 🔗 Schbirid something for the gaming archivists: gamebanana file servers/mirrors(?) seem easy to mirror: http://dl-files.templeservers.com/ http://8.bitgekko.net/gbanana/ are two random ones i fonud by accident
19:52 🔗 godane and my wifi keeps sucking
20:36 🔗 SketchCow OK, taking a plane to Kansas now.
20:43 🔗 xmc l8r!
21:02 🔗 balrog SketchCow: have fun!

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