| Time | Nickname | Message | 
    
        | 00:00
            
                🔗 | wp494 | yeah | 
    
        | 00:15
            
                🔗 | SketchCow | They're a little expensive, but they're niiiice | 
    
        | 00:19
            
                🔗 | tfgbd_ | Can't you do almost the same thing with a PDA phone and cardboard box? | 
    
        | 00:33
            
                🔗 | wp494 | you could, but I'd imagine some would prefer to have an extremely similar setup as to what the IA uses | 
    
        | 00:37
            
                🔗 | wp494 | only variables being the camera and the lighting | 
    
        | 00:59
            
                🔗 | joepie91 | tfgbd_: ... PDA and cardboard box? explain? :P | 
    
        | 01:03
            
                🔗 | tfgbd_ | Or anything with a camera | 
    
        | 01:03
            
                🔗 | tfgbd_ | you then just shape the cardboard into a stand and position it | 
    
        | 01:03
            
                🔗 | tfgbd_ | I found templates for it on the web before | 
    
        | 01:08
            
                🔗 | joepie91 | oh, that | 
    
        | 01:08
            
                🔗 | joepie91 | far from ideal, though | 
    
        | 01:08
            
                🔗 | joepie91 | and you need a fairly high-res camera to pull it off | 
    
        | 01:08
            
                🔗 | joepie91 | phone/PDA camera is unlikely to cut it | 
    
        | 02:07
            
                🔗 | DFJustin | ia livestream http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-poetry-activist | 
    
        | 02:15
            
                🔗 | DFJustin | jason's on | 
    
        | 05:19
            
                🔗 | godane | SketchCow: since NSFW ended and all episodes are there i don't believe i will need access to nsfw_show collection anymore | 
    
        | 05:29
            
                🔗 | SketchCow | OK | 
    
        | 05:29
            
                🔗 | SketchCow | Hope I did well | 
    
        | 05:29
            
                🔗 | SketchCow | Now I really, really need to go to bed | 
    
        | 19:12
            
                🔗 | garyrh | Drupal Core Highly Critical PSA: https://www.drupal.org/PSA-2014-003 | 
    
        | 19:24
            
                🔗 | SketchCow | I just made a room of people laugh | 
    
        | 19:24
            
                🔗 | SketchCow | With the line "if you have not patched this, do so immediately and continue reading this announcement" | 
    
        | 19:32
            
                🔗 | Atluxity | :) | 
    
        | 19:34
            
                🔗 | Atluxity | I run a Drupal site, but had forgotten that I run the 6.x which is not vurnerable to this specific bug | 
    
        | 19:34
            
                🔗 | Atluxity | time to plan an update anyways | 
    
        | 19:34
            
                🔗 | Atluxity | and off-site backups | 
    
        | 20:06
            
                🔗 | parsons | Hi all, I work at Meetup and we just announced we're shutting down a service called "Meetup Everywhere" http://meetup.com/everywhere | 
    
        | 20:07
            
                🔗 | Atluxity | I like you already | 
    
        | 20:07
            
                🔗 | parsons | haha good! | 
    
        | 20:07
            
                🔗 | Atluxity | :D | 
    
        | 20:08
            
                🔗 | Elegance | This is a plesent surprise (well not the shutting down part) but you get what I mean | 
    
        | 20:08
            
                🔗 | balrog | hi parsons | 
    
        | 20:08
            
                🔗 | parsons | howdy | 
    
        | 20:08
            
                🔗 | balrog | what sort of data does this contain and what would be the best way to archive it? Also how much is there? | 
    
        | 20:08
            
                🔗 | balrog | (also thanks for coming and telling us! That's generally not how we find out stuff is going away) | 
    
        | 20:09
            
                🔗 | Atluxity | we got 33 days | 
    
        | 20:09
            
                🔗 | garyrh | looks like we could archivebot it | 
    
        | 20:10
            
                🔗 | Atluxity | so these pages are very dynamic then.. changing accourding to what IP you got | 
    
        | 20:10
            
                🔗 | parsons | Jason Scott gave a talk about this at Brooklyn Beta a couple weeks ago and I realized I was in the exact position he described | 
    
        | 20:11
            
                🔗 | Atluxity | garyrh: I dont think that will get us the result we want | 
    
        | 20:11
            
                🔗 | parsons | So, there isn't a ton of data, no user photos (I think) -- I can find out more specifics | 
    
        | 20:12
            
                🔗 | parsons | Would like to help out/assist if I can make this easier somehow | 
    
        | 20:12
            
                🔗 | balrog | first we have to figure out what kind of data we're looking at and how much. | 
    
        | 20:18
            
                🔗 | garyrh | a list of all meetups for a group can be seen by appending ?see_all=1 | 
    
        | 20:18
            
                🔗 | garyrh | e.g. http://www.meetup.com/Coursera/?see_all=1 | 
    
        | 20:19
            
                🔗 | parsons | woah, I didn't even know that | 
    
        | 20:19
            
                🔗 | garyrh | err, communities | 
    
        | 20:19
            
                🔗 | parsons | we call them "containers" internally | 
    
        | 20:20
            
                🔗 | parsons | we have an API that lets you access that, too | 
    
        | 20:20
            
                🔗 | parsons | I'm trying to get some data on the number of communities and groups | 
    
        | 20:43
            
                🔗 | parsons | There are 6,623 communities, 102,538 local groups, and 217,979 events | 
    
        | 21:12
            
                🔗 | Atluxity | they will be deleted december 1st? | 
    
        | 21:22
            
                🔗 | parsons | yes, that's correct. | 
    
        | 21:51
            
                🔗 | primus104 | Xerox Alto and CP/M OS source code released | 
    
        | 21:51
            
                🔗 | primus104 | http://www.itworld.com/article/2838925/exposed-xerox-alto-and-cp-m-os-source-code-released.html | 
    
        | 21:52
            
                🔗 | raylee | i saw that already | 
    
        | 21:53
            
                🔗 | primus104 | ups, if it's been posted here already i apologise. It seemed it will be interesting to people here | 
    
        | 21:59
            
                🔗 | db48x | primus104: it is interesting to people here :) | 
    
        | 22:00
            
                🔗 | db48x | see also http://toastytech.com/guis/salto.html | 
    
        | 22:01
            
                🔗 | raylee | oh, I didn't see it here | 
    
        | 22:01
            
                🔗 | raylee | but I did see it already | 
    
        | 22:58
            
                🔗 | Sk1d | is .zip the best kompress/archiv format for longtime backup? or any better suggestions? | 
    
        | 23:01
            
                🔗 | chronomex | zip is ok, tar is ok, other things are less ok | 
    
        | 23:02
            
                🔗 | dashcloud | what are your thoughts on 7z ? (the format, not the tool) | 
    
        | 23:07
            
                🔗 | garyrh | in terms of last-defense recovery, afaik 7z has no such tool. | 
    
        | 23:07
            
                🔗 | garyrh | of course for unix-like systems, tar is generally better | 
    
        | 23:08
            
                🔗 | balrog | 7z with par | 
    
        | 23:08
            
                🔗 | balrog | or for that matter anything with par2 | 
    
        | 23:08
            
                🔗 | balrog | par meaning par2 | 
    
        | 23:09
            
                🔗 | garyrh | yes, par2 is always an option. | 
    
        | 23:13
            
                🔗 | Sk1d | hm I dont think I need par2 as I am going to save them on amazon glacier (its photos and you have to pay some mony per file so I am think about grouping fotos together) | 
    
        | 23:15
            
                🔗 | DFJustin | 7z has a couple drawbacks for this purpose, one is that if you use the solid archiving feature, any corruption in the file could affect a large percentage of the contents | 
    
        | 23:15
            
                🔗 | DFJustin | but par could alleviate that | 
    
        | 23:16
            
                🔗 | garyrh | if the images are already compressed, tar (or zip with no compression) might be better | 
    
        | 23:17
            
                🔗 | DFJustin | in terms of archiving for posterity, there is only like one implementation of 7z which has some portability and code quality issues which could be a concern decades from now, but for your own backups maybe not an issue | 
    
        | 23:20
            
                🔗 | Sk1d | ok I will use zip with no compression. | 
    
        | 23:21
            
                🔗 | ats_ | DFJustin: there are at least two implementations; "The Unarchiver" (i.e. unar/lsar) does 7z | 
    
        | 23:21
            
                🔗 | DFJustin | ok | 
    
        | 23:22
            
                🔗 | DFJustin | unarchiver is in objective-c and I completely failed to build it on windows so not sure how future-proof that is either heh | 
    
        | 23:23
            
                🔗 | ats_ | it seems fairly solid -- certainly better than stock p7zip, anyway | 
    
        | 23:23
            
                🔗 | ats_ | but I'm not sure I'd choose 7z as a long-term archiving format unless there was something specific about it that I wanted... | 
    
        | 23:23
            
                🔗 | ats_ | there's an awful lot of complexity in the 7z spec | 
    
        | 23:43
            
                🔗 | SketchCow | Working hard on the Internet Arcade today | 
    
        | 23:45
            
                🔗 | db48x | mmm | 
    
        | 23:47
            
                🔗 | dashcloud | progress keeps ticking along | 
    
        | 23:49
            
                🔗 | Elegance | Did anyone get back to parsons about the Meetup site? | 
    
        | 23:52
            
                🔗 | dashcloud | SketchCow: did you see parsons request for help with handling their site shutdown? | 
    
        | 23:53
            
                🔗 | SketchCow | I support anything | 
    
        | 23:55
            
                🔗 | dashcloud | one of the people from Meetup wants your help to shutdown their Meet Anywhere service, and pass the data onto you |