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done uploading the vine accounts |
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https://archive.org/details/51VineAccountsDecember52014 |
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arkiver: should we do a warrior/manual project for club nintendo? |
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here's an example item: https://club.nintendo.com/rewards-details/a/45108.do |
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items are a maximum of 5 characters long |
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there's also the japanese and european club nintendoes, which are completely different |
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Hi folks. Is anyone around to chat about how you can help us archive public pages for Trovebox before we shut down? |
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arkiver: ^ |
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Heading to bed. But if someone has any sort of guidelines on what you need to archive pages (a list of URLs, etc) that would be helpful. You can ping me via email (jaisen@trovebox.com) or Twitter (@jmathai). |
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Would also be helpful to know if you need a complete list or if your software handles crawling links. |
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Thanks :) |
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I'll be swapping clients again soon - machine is almost ready |
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i figured out there problem |
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I had the textfiles.com machine going, now it stopped dead again. |
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OK, so. |
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I've been informed by someone that http://www.abkingdom.com/ is shutting down March 1st. |
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His letter is basically "yes, we are a bunch of freaks but we don't deserve to lose 15 years of material" |
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I set an archivebot on it, but that may or may not be enough. |
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why is it going away? |
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Not clear |
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k |
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xmc zzz |
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I'll email jmathai later today |
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Start: I think ArchiveBot should be able to do the whole site |
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arkiver: some pages for discontinued rewards on club nintendo aren't referenced anywhere on the main site and thus not saved by archivebot (example: https://club.nintendo.com/rewards-details/a/15513.do) |
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looks like north american and japanese club nintendo can be scraped sequentially |
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i'll do further research on european club nintendo later |
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jmathai reposts from last night |
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Hi folks. Is anyone around to chat about how you can help us archive public pages for Trovebox before we shut down? |
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arkiver, SketchCow: ^ |
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midas1 |
hi jmathai, i think arkiver might be your best bet to help you, he can build a pipeline so we can grab it |
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midas1 arkiver sounds good. whatβs the best way to get in touch with them? |
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just stick around |
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^ that |
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jmathai: arkiver said at 14:03 UTC that he would e-mail you later today. Not sure if he's done so already :) |
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Awesome. I missed that message. Thanks. |
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No problem :) |
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so i got the live state of the union coverage that aired on theblaze |
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its like Mystery theater 3000 |
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jmathai: Thank you for coming here and helping us! |
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arkiver |
We don't get that a lot with websites owners, so great you're here! |
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Would you be able to be online in the weekend to go over the process of saving your website? |
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everyone: join #inkerasers |
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arkiver |
starting very soon with a new batch of comics |
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Start: I think, if the list of urls not linked to from main pages of the website is not too big, archivebot can handle it with !a < list |
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<arkiver>Start: I think, if the list of urls not linked to from main pages of the website is not too big, archivebot can handle it with !a < list |
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Start |
ok |
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i'll prepare a list for each region |
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ok |
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how many urls do you think this'll be? |
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400,000 for north america |
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i'm still building lists for japan and europe |
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that should be fine |
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we still have a few months for the site |
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arkiver: i think i've ran into a problem for club nintendo japan |
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some items have mini-sites like: http://club.nintendo.jp/present/P125/ |
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and these have sub-pages like http://club.nintendo.jp/present/P125/machine.html that an !ao < won't get |
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Another question. We donβt have any plans on deleting content from Github but some have voiced concerns. I know Github has a robots.txt that asks not to crawl but is there any way our Github issues page can be archived? |
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#archivebot doesn't give a shit about robots, iirc. Have a poke around there, jmathai |
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with the api yeah |
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winr4r |
https://gist.github.com/rodw/3073987 that script does it all |
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(apparently) |
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Awesome. Who could we hand off a backup generated by that script? The reason Iβm asking is that itβs important that the data be backed up by someone other than us :) |
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Kazzy: will do |
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jmathai: upload to archive.org, an admin there (a couple of whom live in here) can put it in the archive team collection |
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winr4r: thanks |
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:) |
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jmathai: not sure if you saw my replies |
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<arkiver>jmathai: Thank you for coming here and helping us! |
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<arkiver>We don't get that a lot with websites owners, so great you're here! |
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<arkiver>Would you be able to be online in the weekend to go over the process of saving your website? |
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Kazzy: itβs been queued by archivebot |
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arkiver: i did but then got disconnected. weekends are difficult for me. whatβs another way to go about it? |
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would you have some tomorrow? what timezone are you in? |
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jmathai |
Pacific Time |
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jmathai |
arkiver: I have time on Friday |
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arkiver |
yeah friday is fine |
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arkiver |
I'll be online all day, please leave me a message if you have the time on friday |
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arkiver |
then we can start saving Trovebox. |
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arkiver |
And of course you can always leave me a PM. |
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arkiver |
Have a good day/night all! |
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winr4r |
you too |
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arkiver is afk now |
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SketchCow |
textfiles.com machine is back |
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SketchCow |
Now synchronizing things, and I'll switch my IRC client back soon |
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SketchCow |
And also set up some automatic backups for various bits |
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winr4r |
\o/ |
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midas1 |
great news SketchCow :) |
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balrog |
SketchCow: how bad did it end up? |
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SketchCow |
A couple sites have issues |
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SketchCow |
I can track them down. |
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balrog |
imho RAID 1 with monitoring is useful *in addition to* backup |
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SketchCow |
People have copies. |
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balrog |
saved my ass several times |
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SketchCow |
Not doing raid |
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SketchCow |
noooo |
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SketchCow |
But that's me |
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SketchCow |
I mean, I definitely want "RAID" in terms of "have a second copy down the way" |
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SketchCow |
That's happening. |
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SketchCow |
Already was happening, just happening more formally |
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balrog |
isn't that what RAID 1 technically is? or do you mean a backup rather? |
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SketchCow |
Well, the problem with "RAID" is that as a concept, it's a very broad concept |
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SketchCow |
And depending on what people are about, they can claim anything is a raid |
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SketchCow |
I'm just saying, I will have a more direct backup of my materials going forward. |
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antomatic |
RAID1 is nice if you have some data, because you store it on two hard drives, so if one fails, you still have the other. |
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antomatic |
RAID1 is no good, for example, |
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antomatic |
if your machine corrupts the data itself |
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antomatic |
= both copies lost |
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balrog |
yeah, so it's needed in addition to backups. |
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antomatic |
Or if a large elephant destroys your datacenter |
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antomatic |
= total loss, also |
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antomatic |
So it's Redundancy, not Backup |
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balrog |
or if both drives fail at the same time. |
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antomatic |
still good |
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antomatic |
but not everything you need |
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antomatic nods |
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balrog |
I generally use mdraid set up to RAID1, though I'd use RAID5 or 6 if I had more drives. RAID0 is only useful if you need maximum performance (doing video editing for example) |
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balrog |
together with active monitoring. |
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antomatic |
Which is surprisingly likely given that RAID arrays tend to get filled with almost-the-exact-same-dfives-from-the-exact-same-batch |
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antomatic |
with the exact-same-manufacturing-faults-and-lifespans |
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balrog |
yep |
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chfoo: is archive.fart.website down? |
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Kazzy |
looking fine for me |
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aaaaaaaaa |
works here |
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not working for me |
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Start |
weird |
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oh hey it works now |
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chfoo |
i don't see any signs of problems with it |
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wp494 |
while we all seem to be sort of here, with the press event today, I think now's a good time more than ever to start looking in to saving the win10 feedback forum |
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wp494 |
(and by extension the insider hub) |
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wp494 |
http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Windows_Technical_Preview |
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