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joepie91 |
caber: the archivebot crawl will be part of a larger pack of uploads, so it won't have individual meta information |
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caber |
ok |
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joepie91 |
caber: see eg. https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_archivebot_go_20150312050003 |
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caber |
ok |
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caber |
who archived archive.org? :_) |
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caber |
(with other words, what happens if their building burns down, and they get some nasty skynet-like virus at the same time? do they have off-site tape?) |
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balrog |
caber: http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=INTERNETARCHIVE.BAK |
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caber |
thanks balrog |
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balrog |
caber: they have two locations and there's four copies of everything iirc |
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balrog |
but it's still not foolproof |
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joepie91 |
balrog: of course that is a page on the wiki |
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joepie91 |
hah |
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caber |
yeah, it are mainly proposal |
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caber |
but - if the internet archive burns, we're doomed? |
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caber |
so to speak |
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joepie91 |
well, the internet archive /has/ burned, sort of |
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joepie91 |
http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/7/5076166/the-internet-archive-seeks-donations-after-fire-destroys-equipment |
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joepie91 |
balrog: added a note here: http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Talk:INTERNETARCHIVE.BAK#Other_anticipated_problems |
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joepie91 |
re: bad actor prevention |
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joepie91 |
I'd say it at least raises the bar for bad actors to the point of "unlikely anybody will bother", assuming the implementation works as designed |
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arkhive |
I have an idea on an archiving project. Well, something like a project. |
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arkhive |
oops i meant to do that in main AT IRC |
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winr4r |
you did |
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arkhive |
oops. oh fck |
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arkhive |
lol i just read the end of the title on window of mIRC and it said -bs |
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arkhive |
I'll copy and paste, if alriihhgt |
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arkhive |
I haven't been on AT/active for a few months. been busy, yo |
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arkhive |
<arkhive> Amazon has their Prime Instant Video service and they have a thing called 'Pilot Season' Right now it is like the fourth 'Pilot Season' In each season pilot episodes for original content exclusive to Amazon Prime, series are pitched. Some picked up, some are not. Now... most of the 'unsold pilots' from Amazon's Pilot Season are unavailable on their website. |
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arkhive |
<arkhive> I think we should get all of the ones that were not sold/not picked up as a series. and keep them before they disappear. I haven't done too much looking into various bit torrent sites to see if I can find all of them. but i know Amazon does not host a lot of them anymore |
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arkhive |
Anyway, I think it would be good to gather the unsold/not picked up pilots together to put somewhere. I was unable to find a lot of them. Some are actually pretty cool(the ones that were not picked up, that is) |
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arkhive |
here is the link to the wikipedia page(hopefully accurate enough |
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arkhive |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_original_programs_distributed_by_Amazon#Pilots |
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arkhive |
What do ya'll think? Apologies for lots of posts :P Let me know :) |
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winr4r |
where would you find them? |
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arkhive |
Not sure. I was thinking ask arround on private torrent sites, like make requests(I have never made a request so idk if that'd work) or loook at various public/private torrent sites, search, read IMDB message boards/post on there asking for help. |
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arkhive |
ask around. maybe some AT memembers have some? |
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winr4r doesn't, rarely downloads much |
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arkhive |
ah |
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winr4r |
it's an interesting idea though, probably have to be a dark collection though |
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arkhive |
same. I have the fastest connection offered in my area and it is 12Mbit/s down 896Kbit/s up lol |
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arkhive |
what does that mean? |
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winr4r |
meaning one that is in a safe place, but not publically accessible |
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arkhive |
after i snatch a copy and watch 'em all :) lol |
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winr4r |
i recently went from 8/.384 to 38/15 |
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winr4r |
feels good man |
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arkhive |
ya. i want gigabit lol. but that'll be a long while till my area gets it |
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arkhive |
Can we post the idea in the project idea section of AT wiki? |
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winr4r |
where? |
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winr4r |
either there's not a "throwing out ideas" page and there should be, or there is one and i can't find it |
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arkhive |
i thought there was one. but i am totally out of the loop so who knows |
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winr4r |
i am a little bit out of the loop too |
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winr4r |
i'm sure i've seen a page just like that, i just don't know where |
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garyrh |
http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Fire_Drill |
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arkhive |
thank you, gayrh |
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garyrh |
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Start |
LayerVault, often described as "version control for designers", is shutting down on April 11, 2015. |
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Start |
Unless we get enough items from Bing, Twitter, and URLTeam, looks like we'll have to do discovery. |
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Items are 10 characters, mixed-case alphanumeric. (Example: https://layervault.com/rev/lbG9ItfGiW) |
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winr4r |
sequential? |
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Start |
Doesn't look like it. |
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winr4r |
then forget about brute forcing them |
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Start |
We'd be best off randomly trying different URLs. |
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Start |
There's also news.layervault.com |
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Start |
Which should be easier, everything is numeric and sequential: https://news.layervault.com/stories/10831 |
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Start |
I suggest #layersalt |
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winr4r |
news.layervault can be shoved into archivebot |
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winr4r |
probably |
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Start |
I've already put it in |
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winr4r |
\o/ |
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Start |
It has 45,940 stories and 21,932 users |
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SketchCow |
hi |
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SketchCow |
can we start #froogle |
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winr4r |
wasn't that once the name of a google service |
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WubTheCap |
Did nobody put pjsmprints on archivebot again? It's feeling much healthier now in terms of latency, the last backup effort was partial because things got redirected to localhost. |
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SketchCow |
and start finding every google service that shares piblic cultural items. |
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SketchCow |
sorry irc on phone on plane. |
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garyrh |
so do you mean something like University of Wherever hosts everything on Google Blah, let's back it up? |
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SketchCow |
No. |
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SketchCow |
Imean like blogger, google code, etc. |
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SketchCow |
Google images,google maps |
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SketchCow |
Just anything that takes user data. Just to get a sense. |
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garyrh |
Oh, I see. |
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garyrh |
Sort of a Google census. |
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DFJustin |
hmm is there any possibility of publicly shaming aol for killing their 20-year-old file libraries, the discussion in #aohell is kind of depressing (we can still download file descriptions, but not files) |
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garyrh |
SketchCow, here's a start: http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Froogle |
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ohhdemgir |
for n in $(seq 1 1600); do wget --content-disposition -c http://felixonline.co.uk/issuearchive/issue/$n/download/; done |
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ohhdemgir |
http://google-opensource.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/farewell-to-google-code.html?showComment=1426180063486#c3759045954192192386 |
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ohhdemgir |
"It's like watching Geocities go away." |
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caber |
I was reading trough the 'archive the Internet Archive' page on the wiki |
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caber |
I like the though of checking cryptographically or someone really has file X or Y - without them being able to pre-calculate all possible challenges |
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caber |
while having an open design |
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ersi |
You might want to join #internetarchive.bak |
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ersi |
Which is where discussions on the 'archive IA' thing takes place. |
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caber: ^ |
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https://plus.google.com/109936836907132434202/posts/bu3z2wVqcQc |
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Start |
oh look, google's killing another product |
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freebase shutting down mid-2015 |
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irc channel ideas? |
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xmc |
uh, they're going to publish a dump |
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xmc |
so the best channel name would maybe be #archiveteam |
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Start |
oh, missed that |
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VADemon |
Yahoo #2 is rising |
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arkiver: when will trovebox and rapidshare discovery start? |
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http://superwaitlist.com/google-deprecates-old-webmaster-tools-api/ |
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google's on a kill spree this week |
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i'm wondering if we should do something like #froogle for yahoo |
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Start |
maybe #woohoo ? |
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schbirid |
yanoo |
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Start |
#ohnoo also would work |
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i'll just use woohoo for now |
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schbirid |
could anyone with a good chunk of space archive this? http://demos.igmdb.org/ |
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schbirid |
best check the sizes first, iirc challenge-tv should be ~70G alone |
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schbirid |
please tell me if you take this project |
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VADemon |
schbirid, I would like to try, I have roughly 800 + 1000GB space |
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schbirid |
more than enough :) |
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schbirid |
i think |
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VADemon |
this will be my first project then :) |
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schbirid |
excellent! |
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schbirid |
"wget -m -a demos.igmdb.org_$(date +%Y%m%d).log" should be all that's needed |
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VADemon |
what about -r for recursive? I've used wget only a few times |
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xmc |
VADemon: iirc, -m implies -r |
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xmc |
-m === -r -N -l inf --no-remove-listing |
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schbirid |
yeah |
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VADemon |
give me some time guys :) |
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schbirid |
theoretically for a site like this one would not want the html indexes but hey, they don't hurt either and keeping them is easier |
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VADemon |
wget.exe --directory-prefix="Y:\archive_demos.igmdb.org\" --append-output "demos.igmdb.org_$(date +%Y%m%d).log" -m http://demos.igmdb.org/ |
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VADemon |
gives me Scheme missing error |
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schbirid |
sorry, that $(date) thing is linux only |
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schbirid |
would result in "20150313" |
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schbirid |
i just like timestamps ;9 |
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VADemon |
I thought I would still work so didnt even ask, just worked for me under ubuntu (vm) |
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VADemon |
ok it's working, only downloading index.htmls atm |
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VADemon |
it works, thanks for helping with the setup |
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schbirid |
yay |
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ersi |
VADemon: Dude, don't run it on windows |
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ersi |
Jesus god, urgh |
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ersi shoots self |
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VADemon |
? :/ |
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ersi |
Never do archiving on Windows. Case sensitive file systems and what not.. |
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VADemon |
you're right... |
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loopholes |
Hello? |
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joepie91 |
VADemon: also you should be using warc |
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VADemon |
is warc kinda an archive? |
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VADemon |
Thanks for the suggestion, I will |
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joepie91 |
VADemon: yep, it's an archive format designed specifically for stuff like archiving websites |
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joepie91 |
it preserves all the metadata |
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joepie91 |
request/response headers and all that |
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joepie91 |
it's supported by wget by default under the --warc-file flag |
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VADemon |
currently reading this http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Wget_with_WARC_output |
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VADemon |
Looks like I have to start the download once again |
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