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IDK if this is 'archive team' really, but I think it is... did you see this? I hope this cartridge gets dumped. http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/07/fabled-sony-nintendo-play-station-prototype-discovered/ |
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Muad-Dib |
Wyatt, just rename it to .cbz |
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and upload again |
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Muad-Dib |
To the people with experience archiving floppies, also SketchCow: how beneficial is it to store magnetic media in a faraday cage, i.e. a grounded aluminium or steel cabinet or copper-meshed wooden closet? |
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or is a faraday cage overkill? |
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I'm asking because I have a collection of floppies, and data/audio/video tapes I want to digitize |
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Muad-Dib |
and this just got added to that collection: https://www.anony.ws/i/2015/07/04/IMG_20150703_220310.jpg |
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Muad-Dib |
I am contemplating making a dedicated closet because my "retro"-closet already looks like this https://www.anony.ws/i/2015/07/04/IMG_20150621_123816.jpg (dont worry about the DECT set, it hasnt been hooked up since before the magnetic stuff was moved in :p) |
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Muad-Dib |
anyone? |
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That looks a lot like my floppy storage. |
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zhongfu |
i have two boxes of floppies lying around, i should get a floppy reader to archive all of them |
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zhongfu: are you going to do just "regular" imaging or raw magnetic flux imaging? |
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zhongfu |
regular i guess |
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Muad-Dib |
also, can anyone point me to notes on properly cataloging storage media? |
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like, did SketchCow ever write down whether and how he catalogues his CD's and floppies? |
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Muad-Dib |
hmmm http://www.naa.gov.au/records-management/agency/preserve/physical-preservation/magnetic-media.aspx |
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Magnetic media should ideally be stored in closed metal cabinets to provide extra protection against heat and dust. However, if adequate environmental controls are in place, storage on open shelves, in their cases is acceptable. Storage equipment should be sturdy, allow tapes and disks to be stored vertically, and most importantly, be electrically grounded. |
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Muad-Dib |
do you ground your storage cabinets, SketchCow? Knowing you have a lot of tape and floppy stuff |
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phillipsj |
How do you ground a wooden shelf? |
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Muad-Dib |
phillipsj, by creating a groundable cage inside it, by lining and interconnecting the inner surfaces with a mesh of a conductive material |
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Muad-Dib |
meshes or sheets |
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Muad-Dib |
and grounding the meshes/sheets |
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phillipsj |
Hmm, I was mostly asking a rhetorical question, but that could work. |
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phillipsj, it's basically constructing a metal closet inside the wooden closet xD |
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Muad-Dib |
but goddammit |
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Muad-Dib |
the room I have to my disposal to store this stuff in is an attic room, in an old house, so all the heat rises to that level of the house in all seasons, in winter this is no problem, but in summer it can get over 30 Celsius and 70+% humidity |
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the only other room I might have at my disposal is a room that's commonly colder and one floor lower, but has carpet flooring... so that would be a static electricity-laden hell |
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It's also my parent's house, so I cant just go and rip out the carpet, argh |
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phillipsj |
My floppy collection is in a basement. (low humidity) (yes there is a carpet there, which is not good for static control) |
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dashcloud |
most important thing is to make sure they get archived- perfect storage is kind of pointless if you never get around to archiving them before they fail completely |
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dashcloud: I'm on my own in doing this, so archiving 500+ floppies, 50+ datasettes, ~20 reel-to-reel audiotapes and more video tapes is going to take a little while :P |
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that's why I am looking fdor proper storage |
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because this'll robably take a year once I get around to it and up to speed, since I generally can only archive stuff over here in the weekends |
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Muad-Dib |
probably* |
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I also still have to obtain more means of reading the stuff, for example: I still don't have a kryoflux or discferret (the development on the latter one also seems to be in limbo right now) and the reel-to-reel I wanted to use for doing the audio tapes recently blew up while I was testing it for the first time in 10 years (freaking capacitors) |
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so yeah, I want to make sure I can at least store the magnetic media properly, so that -at least- won't be a headache anymore :p |
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anyone have suggestions? |
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Muad-Dib |
I am leaving for a bit, just shout stuff at me here and I'll read it later |
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Muad-Dib |
another last question I want advice about: In the ideal case, I want to kryoflux/discferret these floppies, I have a working IBM PC XT with a single 5.25-inch floppy drive here, shall I just test see whether that drive reads and use that one to digitize stuff, or shall I ask the kryoflux guys to provide me a drive they selected (I guess the latter is the better option, but also costlier) |
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I'm a college student with a small budget and not too much experience with legacy magnetic storage media, so I want to know what kind of risks I am taking if I decide to just go with the old drive I have laying around |
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Muad-Dib |
anyway, I'll be back later, I'll read your angry shouts at my incompetence later ;) |
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Muad-Dib |
SketchCow, dashcloud ^ |
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phillipsj |
"“Cryoflux” is a proprietary trademark process for concentrating fruit juice that |
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phillipsj |
http://kryoflux.com/ |
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phillipsj |
I was just going to use an old Pentium. |
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Nemo_bis |
To fry the floppies? |
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phillipsj |
I guess the main benefit is being able to copy "copy protected" floppies. |
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pikhq |
As well as more unusual floppy formats. |
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pikhq |
Muad-Dib: *If* your 5.25" drive works well, then I believe that's probably your best bet. |
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phillipsj |
I guess I should not toss my oldworld powerMac just yet |
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phillipsj has a few Mac Floppies too |
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Wyatt |
Muad-Dib: Is that really the only way? Renaming them in bulk somehow without reuploading would be much preferable. (I went to bed before you said that so it's up over 600 now.) |
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SketchCow |
Mmm, delicious cryoflux |
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SketchCow |
How is everyone? I napped hard. |
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SketchCow |
Wyatt: I can fix this |
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SketchCow |
Hold my beer |
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SketchCow |
Give me the general way I can find them, and I can do it. |
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godane |
SketchCow: i'm uploading 2005 episodes of on the media |
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SketchCow: In that case, it may be better to wait a week and do them all at once? ias3upload doesn't seem to be going in order through the metadata.csv, so I have no idea what's done or not at this point. |
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godane |
i'm also downloading 2009 lifehacker.com articles from its sitemap |
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godane |
at the same time grabbing koreanet-3/bunan news9 videos |
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wyatt8740 |
sketchcow: wait what? |
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wyatt8740 |
you talking to me? |
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Wyatt |
wyatt8740: No, me. |
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wyatt8740 |
btw me and wyatt are not the same person |
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wyatt8740 |
alright :P |
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wyatt8740 |
is your name wyatt IRL too? |
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SketchCow |
OH GREAT |
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Wyatt |
It is. |
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SketchCow |
OH FUCKING GREAT |
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* |
SketchCow breaks a pool cue in half and leaves them on the floor. |
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SketchCow |
Make it quick |
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SketchCow |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCXbib9MahE |
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SketchCow |
Wyatt: Just keep going with the uploads. |
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Wyatt |
It'll be fine as long as we don't collide and cancel each other out. |
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SketchCow |
I'll fix the filename shiznat |
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Wyatt |
Awesome, thanks. |
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SketchCow |
Also, don't use ias3upload after this |
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SketchCow |
use internetarchive |
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SketchCow |
https://pypi.python.org/pypi/internetarchive |
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SketchCow |
SO much better |
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Wyatt |
Ah, wasn't aware the state of the art had m- oh, python. Okay, I'll have to unfuck that little mess then. |
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SketchCow |
Don't sniff. |
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SketchCow |
pip install internetarchive |
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SketchCow |
done |
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SketchCow |
Also, Muad-Dib - that was SO -bs |
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what was bs? |
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Muad-Dib |
you cataloging your media, SketchCow ? |
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:p |
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SketchCow |
You went off for paragraphs on media cataloging and capturing theory. |
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SketchCow |
That's not a call to action, that's a "let's discuss best practices" |
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SketchCow |
archiveteam is action, archiveteam-bs is discussion |
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SketchCow |
Happy to discuss what you're trying to do, but in -bs |
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oh, in that manner, I'll be happy to take it to -bs |