#archiveteam 2015-09-02,Wed

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00:10 🔗 joepie91 I didn't see that tree, honest!
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02:22 🔗 n00b742 Hey guys thanks for archiving *all* the *things*! Wondering when will the gitorious git repo archives ready for public?
02:22 🔗 n00b742 http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Gitorious
02:23 🔗 n00b742 WHAT FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD
02:26 🔗 trs80 n00b742: yahoosucks
02:27 🔗 n00b742 ha
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09:59 🔗 SketchCow FOS holding strong. Drive at 3% usage.
09:59 🔗 SketchCow (Lowest feasible amount)
09:59 🔗 SketchCow I have a second drive of awesome things to upload, that's half-full.
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12:34 🔗 joepie91 yipdw: arkiver: could you git tag warrior script repos by their version? it's not strictly necessary for packaging (since I can version by commits), but it'd make it easier to resolve issues that others run into, as they have a concrete version to point at rather than a commit
12:34 🔗 joepie91 (in the future, I mean)
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17:07 🔗 yipdw joepie91: yes
17:10 🔗 joepie91 excellent :D
17:11 🔗 joepie91 yipdw: fwiw, if things work out as I envision them, making a new release of a Nix package for a warrior script would just be a matter of adding a version number to a list and committing it to the Nix repo
17:11 🔗 joepie91 so additional maintenance overhead would be close to zero, and anybody can do it :P
17:11 🔗 joepie91 (I have some git post-commit hook magic in mind)
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17:14 🔗 yipdw joepie91: ok
17:14 🔗 yipdw one thing I want to stress is having this nix stuff not impede existing workflows
17:14 🔗 yipdw or at least minimize it
17:14 🔗 joepie91 yipdw: ofc. that's my main concern
17:14 🔗 yipdw cool
17:15 🔗 yipdw I like packaging systems that don't get in the way
17:15 🔗 yipdw which is why I hate most of them
17:15 🔗 joepie91 yipdw: most packaging problems are already solved in Nix-land, so it's really just a matter of me figuring out the implementation details of how everything works, and writing some archiveteam-specific abstractions that reduce the maintenance to near-zero
17:15 🔗 joepie91 yeah
17:15 🔗 joepie91 it's why I'm thinking of packaging this with Nix, not RPMs or DEBs
17:15 🔗 joepie91 :p
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17:15 🔗 joepie91 because it's very low-bullshit
17:16 🔗 yipdw oh I was thinking of maven but yes
17:16 🔗 joepie91 I've already packaged wget-lua, most of the major Python modules have already been pre-packaged (and there exist conversion scripts for eg. seesaw), and the dependencies for warrior projects are pretty static
17:16 🔗 joepie91 most of the time, the only difference between two warrior scripts is the name, the tracker URL, and the git repo
17:16 🔗 joepie91 (plus specific logic, but that's always a pipeline.py)
17:17 🔗 joepie91 yipdw: also, I don't intend on making any changes to the deps, so the old workflows remain unaffected
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19:05 🔗 LifeNDebt Knock Knock, is Jason home?
19:07 🔗 xmc what is your quest
19:13 🔗 LifeNDebt I seek redemption for student debtors.
19:15 🔗 LifeNDebt Victims of for-profit colleges such as Art Institutes, Phoenix, Everest, ITT Tech need your expertise. They have found a wealth of information through the waybackmachine. These schools have published mountains of fraudulent stats over the years. We need help crawling these sites and organizing a database.
19:17 🔗 Stiletto interesting punctuation to those I tipped off re: Toshiba removing old drivers...
19:17 🔗 Stiletto http://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?p=443376#p443376
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19:33 🔗 aaaaaaaaa Sounds like a neat project, you may get his attention faster by emailing him at jason@textfiles.com
19:35 🔗 aaaaaaaaa He checks in so often here during the day, but not regularly, and goodness knows about his schedule.
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19:53 🔗 LifeNDebt thanks, I did email him and was pointed here. I'm hoping someone becomes interested. I have very limited knowledge of how to crawl, except for like what I see in youtube videos of babies.
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19:55 🔗 LifeNDebt we are a highly visible group at debtcollective.org, but need more tech support.
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20:04 🔗 aaaaaaaaa that's what we need, a video on youtube of a baby firing up wpull
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