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Hi, I've been reading about Archive Team for a couple of days now and it seems that the philosophy of this project is nearly if not completely the exact same to the philosophy I've held for years. |
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DFJustin |
welcome |
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_113k |
thank you! |
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_113k |
I do have a question though. What I've been collecting the past few months seems a bit of a niche. Is there anyone else actually interested in archiving freeware games? |
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DFJustin |
of course |
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DFJustin |
I've uploaded probably 100gb+ worth to archive.org |
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_113k |
DFJustin, you didn't catalog each game's metadata though, did you? |
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no |
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DFJustin |
there are people doing that though |
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_113k |
I assumed not haha. That's quite a bit of metadata |
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DFJustin |
it's just a funny question because games are probably the single thing people are most interested in as far as archiving digital stuff |
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not that there isn't a lot needing to be done |
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_113k |
Yeah, but I would believe that comes from all the DRM and just massive amounts of games |
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DFJustin |
so what kind of stuff have you been collecting |
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Ah, I've been working through big lists of games and cataloging them |
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_113k |
Mostly indie games, sometimes commercial free games. |
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DFJustin |
any particular era or platform |
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Windows PC for the most part |
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_113k |
Game Maker games and the like. Starting with ones that could go dead at any point |
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DFJustin |
nice |
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DFJustin |
are you familiar with demu.org |
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_113k |
Not exactly, but that name is striking up some sort of memory |
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Oh, yes, this site. I've heard of it |
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Most of those games are made earlier than what I'm interested in collecting. |
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DFJustin |
it does get into more recent stuff, you can see the year breakdown at the side of https://archive.org/details/classicpcgames |
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DFJustin |
but yeah mostly older |
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_113k |
I just searched a few newer and more obscure ones and it didn't have them |
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yeah, still a great resource though |
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DFJustin |
it's basically one guy who runs it, it was a separate site for years and then archive.org offered to let him manage an area on their site |
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_113k |
That's pretty crazy |
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we generally like having things on archive.org because it's a proper institution and the stuff isn't just gonna go poof one day like a private web host |
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_113k |
Yeah, I've started to upload my collection there |
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_113k |
But I've still got a long way to go. To date, only one game I've used as a recurring test is up. |
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DFJustin |
there's a "community software" area which is pretty much anything goes as far as uploads |
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if you have a large amount of stuff something more organized can be worked out |
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_113k |
Depends on how much is a 'large amount' |
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_113k |
but over 600 games |
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_113k |
and about 40 with my new beta method of cataloging them |
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DFJustin |
I would suggest getting in touch with the demu guy since it could fit into that collection |
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_113k |
DFJustin, where should I contact him at? |
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http://demu.org/contribute |
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oh, right |
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DFJustin |
the metadata work is great though, I've mainly just done big batch uploads of stuff so as not to lose it for now |
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DFJustin |
e.g. https://archive.org/search.php?query=subject%3A%22Freem%22 |
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_113k |
I'll get to picking those apart then! |
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DFJustin |
those ones are all japanese-language so maybe not the easiest task |
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_113k |
I speak enough Japanese to sort them haha |
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Wow, it's been a while, does Freem even still exist? |
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last I checked it did although they rearranged the ftp folder structure after that |
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so it would be a pain to get just the new ones |
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Do you know of any archives of Vector, speaking of Japanese doujin sites? |
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DFJustin |
the ring server is kind of a back way in, the front page of freem has pages with metadata and screenshots and such |
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I don't know of any off the top of my head |
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That might be easier than manually getting updates |
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I'll maybe archive Vector someday, but first, I'm going to sort all these other games |
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Oh, also, should I upload them in their original format or should I make an SFX archive or something? |
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always upload the original format, optionally include others if you want but as an addition and not a replacement |
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alright, sounds good |
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once the archive.org torrents for pomf.se are all downloaded, what do I do with them exactly? is there a certain tool needed to view them or is there a way to extract them to a plain directory containing all the files? |
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Depends on what's in there of course. |
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ersi: about 140 torrents of this http://lep.pw/img/63a2a1fd3cfb011d.png |
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plus 3 that are much, much smaller than the 140 that aren't even being seeded by archive.org so I assume they're not important |
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(the three small ones don't have a .warc.gz in them) |
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vantec: HCross: I blocked you on the thingiverse grab because there still seem to be some problems with the rsync from you to FOS (no items coming in) |
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Ok. What do we need to do? |
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yipdw: chfoo: can you please have a look at the thingiverse FOS dir? It looks like it doesn't allow new folders to be created for new users downloading stuff |
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HCross: currently nothing, it looks like you can safely run any other grabs |
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ah ok, and just wait for this one to be fixed |
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ok! |
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"Giant Russian torrent site RUTracker says it is prepared to take extraordinary measures to ward off action that could see the site permanently blocked by local ISPs. RUTracker, the 17th largest site in the whole of Russia, says that it will give copyright holders a special account which will enable them to delete any content that infringes upon their rights." |
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joepie91 |
ref https://torrentfreak.com/rutracker-says-copyright-holders-can-moderate-its-torrents-150929/ |
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SimpBrain |
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i use that site for certain files which arnt on other sites |
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somebody uploaded an ISO of a supposedly rare Doctor Who DVD: https://thepiratebay.gd/torrent/12519709/Doctor_Who_The_Time_Monster |
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What's the best/most efficient way to locally manage metadata before uploading? |
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https://github.com/kngenie/ias3upload |
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http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=WARC |
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Evernote might be worth keeping an eye on, they have public/shared "notebooks" http://www.businessinsider.com.au/evernote-is-in-deep-trouble-2015-10 |
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