#archiveteam 2016-03-01,Tue

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00:00 πŸ”— limebyte arkiver, wow
00:00 πŸ”— limebyte how to become a target
00:00 πŸ”— limebyte tell me moah
00:01 πŸ”— SketchCow 3 major torrentings removed
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00:09 πŸ”— bsmith093 SketchCow: like what?
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00:16 πŸ”— bsmith093 etext.org says IA has a mirror of them but i'm looking and all i see are 302 erroes
00:18 πŸ”— bsmith093 idk what happened, but now it's working fine.
00:20 πŸ”— SketchCow n n n
00:20 πŸ”— SketchCow I just mean on FOS
00:22 πŸ”— arkiver limebyte: a target for ftp-grab should I think at least have 4 TB and 500Mbit
00:23 πŸ”— limebyte wow
00:23 πŸ”— limebyte such moneys dat costa
00:23 πŸ”— arkiver please talk normal
00:23 πŸ”— xmc NO
00:25 πŸ”— SketchCow I'm on arkiver's side here
00:25 πŸ”— SketchCow It's bad enough 80% of you have mental health issues
00:25 πŸ”— SketchCow We have to have some level of communication standards
00:25 πŸ”— SketchCow Or next thing you know....
00:25 πŸ”— SketchCow THIRD PERSON SELF-REFERENCE
00:26 πŸ”— * SketchCow oooOOOOoOOOOOOo waves hands
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00:30 πŸ”— arkiver Haha
00:30 πŸ”— * arkiver agrees
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00:30 πŸ”— xmc for the record i also request comprehensible and non-trollish speech
00:30 πŸ”— xmc unfortunately for everyone i seem to have lost my snail hat
00:30 πŸ”— xmc (@)
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00:30 πŸ”— SketchCo1 I'm not channel operator
00:30 πŸ”— SketchCo1 This is the time for revolution
00:30 πŸ”— SketchCo1 is now known as SketchCow
00:30 πŸ”— xmc :O
00:30 πŸ”— FalconK you mean +o
00:30 πŸ”— xmc yes
00:31 πŸ”— FalconK :P
00:31 πŸ”— xmc that
00:31 πŸ”— * FalconK steals a snail and wears it like a hat
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00:32 πŸ”— FalconK still getting 125-200 kB/s on uploads to fos, by the way. so it's better than it was.
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00:33 πŸ”— xmc slightly
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00:34 πŸ”— xmc well, that's about a megabit, transatlantic, unpleasant but about par?
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00:36 πŸ”— SketchCow arkiver: op me
00:36 πŸ”— * snape is in ΕΏavour o erudite diΕΏcourΕΏe in the faΕΏhion of our Georgian forefathers, what?
00:38 πŸ”— snape Goddammit, need more coffee. >.<
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00:43 πŸ”— * DFJustin ΕΏeconds the Motion
00:44 πŸ”— FalconK a megabit would be about 0.1% of nominal
00:44 πŸ”— FalconK this provider must have unbelievably shitty peering, or fos is still overloaded.
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00:47 πŸ”— * xmc inspects the weathermap
00:47 πŸ”— xmc https://monitor.archive.org/weathermap/weathermap.html
00:47 πŸ”— xmc what connection do you come in on?
00:48 πŸ”— xmc actually it all looks to be in non-overload condition
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00:48 πŸ”— FalconK it sends to rsync://fos.textfiles.com/archivebot/
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00:49 πŸ”— FalconK I don't know if that is even on the map?
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00:50 πŸ”— FalconK server is also teamarchive0.fnf.archive.org
00:50 πŸ”— xmc traceroute and see if you recognize anything
00:50 πŸ”— xmc but none of those arrows coming from the internet are warm colors so it's not that
00:50 πŸ”— FalconK via ipipserver.core.archive.org
00:51 πŸ”— xmc you should be able to tell whether you're coming through HE or ISC
00:51 πŸ”— FalconK ISC
00:51 πŸ”— xmc that's about all i can help you with
00:51 πŸ”— FalconK er actually
00:51 πŸ”— FalconK goes via both HE and ISC
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00:51 πŸ”— FalconK er, isc.10gigabitethernet5-2.core1.pao1.he.net.
00:52 πŸ”— FalconK so just HE, then.
00:52 πŸ”— FalconK I should run a speedtest to near there and see what is up
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00:56 πŸ”— * snape notes the lack of IPv6 ΕΏupport wfor FOS with mild diΕΏapproval.
00:57 πŸ”— xmc you should change your name to ΕΏnape
00:58 πŸ”— snape I tried, but it "is not a legal nickname". :(
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01:02 πŸ”— xmc also you can't use that letter at the beginning of a word
01:02 πŸ”— xmc woop woop woop off-topic siren
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04:31 πŸ”— dxrt sets mode: +o dxrt-
04:32 πŸ”— dxrt sets mode: +o SketchCow
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06:48 πŸ”— SketchCow You know what I love about "notes the lack of IPv6 support wfor FOS with mild disapproval"
06:48 πŸ”— SketchCow How it tells me 30 other things about you
06:48 πŸ”— SketchCow And how I don't want to know any of them
06:49 πŸ”— * SketchCow is getting, you know, work done.
06:49 πŸ”— SketchCow work.
06:49 πŸ”— SketchCow Also, Rocket League is the best $20 value in videogames this year.
06:53 πŸ”— snape has left forget I said anything then; adieu
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08:01 πŸ”— midas how this often goes: http://i.imgur.com/43PYBxi.gif
08:09 πŸ”— BnA-Robin HCross: depends on where we run it, and that depends a bit on if we need speed or diskspace or ip addresses. Also would depend on total bandwidth needed for the project. Unmetered connections vary between 100-300 Mbit/s up/down, metered 1,2 Gbit/s down and 300 Mbit/s up to paris.
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13:12 πŸ”— limebyte SketchCow, needs to be configured
13:12 πŸ”— limebyte mens more workz
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15:31 πŸ”— SketchCow archive.org is super-hella-down for the moment.
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16:05 πŸ”— arkiver sets mode: +o SketchCo1
16:05 πŸ”— arkiver There you go
16:08 πŸ”— swebb Can someone op me?
16:08 πŸ”— arkiver sets mode: +o swebb
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16:08 πŸ”— swebb Thanks
16:08 πŸ”— arkiver Nice
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16:41 πŸ”— phuzion SketchCo1: I miiiiiiiiiight have an idea of why FOS is getting destroyed so frequently, but it's just a shot in the dark. Is it the CPU that's completely overworked?
16:43 πŸ”— phuzion Because it looks like most of the projects use rsync with --compress-level=9, which beats up CPU pretty good on both ends of the transfer.
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17:22 πŸ”— noahc SketchCow: Any progress on http://warctozip.archive.org coming back online? I doubt there is much I can do, but anything I can do to help make it happen?
17:23 πŸ”— MrRadar noahc: Do you need a specific WARC converted to a zip?
17:23 πŸ”— noahc Yeah! Can you do that?
17:23 πŸ”— noahc Or tell me how?
17:24 πŸ”— MrRadar The code is on GitHub so I could probably run the service locally: https://github.com/alard/warctozip-service
17:24 πŸ”— noahc I'm not sure if I can get the file or not...actually.
17:25 πŸ”— noahc http://warctozip.archive.org/1324480184-1750974327/webshots.com-user-bblum08-20121124-040843.zip/http://archive.org/download/webshots-freeze-frame-20121124042939/webshots-20121124042939.megawarc.warc.gz , but the domain is down.
17:25 πŸ”— xmc the http://archive.org/... bit is what you want to download
17:25 πŸ”— xmc and then run warctozip on it?
17:25 πŸ”— xmc er, nvm, i don't know how this tool works
17:25 πŸ”— noahc Oh, well, maybe I can figure that out.
17:26 πŸ”— xmc the warctozip tool takes a byte range, which is the pair of big numbers there
17:26 πŸ”— xmc so you don't have to download the whole thing
17:26 πŸ”— noahc ahh, yeah, it's like 53GB for the megawarc file.
17:26 πŸ”— noahc But if I downloaded the whole thing, that'd be fine too.
17:27 πŸ”— noahc As long as I can get the specific user I wanted out of it.
17:27 πŸ”— xmc yeah, but you can save time and bandwidth by running warctozip and giving it the byte range :)
17:27 πŸ”— arkiver what do you want to get exactly?
17:27 πŸ”— arkiver pictures from to account or such a thing?
17:27 πŸ”— arkiver the*
17:27 πŸ”— noahc Yeah, so from here: http://ia601601.us.archive.org/14/items/webshots-freeze-frame-index/index.html
17:28 πŸ”— noahc Getting user bblum08 or less likely bmblum
17:29 πŸ”— noahc xmc: how would I get the byte range?
17:29 πŸ”— xmc as i said earlier: <xmc> the warctozip tool takes a byte range, which is the pair of big numbers there
17:29 πŸ”— xmc in the url i mean
17:29 πŸ”— noahc Ahh, that's what I suspected.
17:30 πŸ”— noahc But, aren't those dates 2012....
17:30 πŸ”— xmc inspecting urls for semantic content should really be taught in schools
17:30 πŸ”— noahc Or I'm an idiot.
17:30 πŸ”— swebb Full AlJazeera Network Crawl update: approx 109G of content so-far, 1.5M urls crawled, 0.5M urls still queued
17:30 πŸ”— noahc 132...-175.
17:30 πŸ”— xmc 2012-11-24 T 04:29:39 isn't a date?
17:30 πŸ”— xmc yeah
17:30 πŸ”— noahc DateTime...
17:31 πŸ”— noahc Okay, let me dick around with this over my lunch break and see how far I can get.
17:33 πŸ”— noahc Thanks for the help everyone.
17:34 πŸ”— xmc def
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17:48 πŸ”— noahc There is a 90% chance I have this thing working....
17:48 πŸ”— noahc Thanks again!
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17:54 πŸ”— xmc yay
17:58 πŸ”— noahc I'm not quite there yet. I'm getting files, but the website claims I should be getting 407MB, but I'm getting less than 100MB. It should be as simple as just replacing http://warctozip.archive.org/ with localhost:5000/ right?
17:58 πŸ”— xmc should be yes
18:00 πŸ”— MrRadar noahc: I downloaded, extracted, and recompressed the WARC for you; I'm uploading it right now
18:01 πŸ”— noahc Thanks MrRadar!
18:01 πŸ”— noahc Did you do something other than what I did?
18:01 πŸ”— noahc If you take the byte range 175 - 132, you get 43. I have 42.7MB on disk. Do I need to make my range bigger?
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18:07 πŸ”— MrRadar noahc: I downloaded the file with curl (which supports byte range queries) then extracted it with warcat and compressed the result into a zip file
18:08 πŸ”— MrRadar So, I did it all manually
18:09 πŸ”— noahc Oh, okay. I guess there is more than one way to skin a cat....
18:09 πŸ”— noahc I do appreciate your help though.
18:12 πŸ”— xmc skin a warc you mean :P
18:14 πŸ”— MrRadar https://2by2.info/blip/webshots-20121124042939.megawarc.1324480184-1750974327.zip
18:14 πŸ”— noahc Yes.
18:14 πŸ”— noahc Skin a warc...
18:21 πŸ”— noahc Thanks, got it!
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21:37 πŸ”— aliz Are the stats for each project saved?
21:38 πŸ”— aliz Would be nice to generate a badge or a diploma from the stats, like diploma.php?nick=aliz&project=googlecode
21:38 πŸ”— xmc i think so? they're usually removed from the live tracker after a while because disk space
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21:39 πŸ”— yipdw as far as I know, nobody archives the tracker scoreboards, and once we purge them from the tracker they're gone from that
21:40 πŸ”— xmc i don't have an export-and-save cronjob or anything
21:41 πŸ”— aliz some summary stats shouldn't take up to much space, like project|nick|size|items
21:41 πŸ”— yipdw there is a backup task, I don't know if it's run
21:41 πŸ”— FalconK :D
21:41 πŸ”— yipdw anyway if someone would like to grab the pages I don't think anyone would mind
21:42 πŸ”— xmc maybe it'd be good to keep chain-of-custody records for jobs?
21:42 πŸ”— yipdw they should render reasonably even without Javascript support
21:42 πŸ”— xmc maybe it'd be good to not keep them?
21:42 πŸ”— xmc ????
21:42 πŸ”— aliz is there someone official from archivteam that could "sign" the diploma I would think it would be a nice gesture
21:43 πŸ”— yipdw everyone is in archive team, so you can sign your own
21:43 πŸ”— xmc ^
21:43 πŸ”— xmc if you want to be all fancy you can take it to your bank and have it notarized or something
21:49 πŸ”— arkiver yipdw: logs are always saved right?
21:49 πŸ”— yipdw they're saved in wpull.log, I don't think they're simultaneously written to the metawarc's wpull log record
21:49 πŸ”— arkiver I mean the tracker logs of incoming items
21:49 πŸ”— yipdw oh
21:49 πŸ”— yipdw yeah
21:50 πŸ”— arkiver ok
21:51 πŸ”— arkiver I think a little stats image would be nice
21:51 πŸ”— arkiver people might use it on forums
21:51 πŸ”— MrRadar The irony, the ArchiveTeam doesn't save its own history
21:52 πŸ”— arkiver Would make us more known on the internet and the user can show off the GBs he/she did
21:52 πŸ”— MrRadar :P
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22:00 πŸ”— JW_work I don't think "making us more known on the internet" is a particularly *good* thing.
22:00 πŸ”— FalconK it would sure help more people make informed decisions about whether they approve, but really
22:00 πŸ”— FalconK you're right
22:01 πŸ”— JW_work There a quite a few things we do that we couldn't do if our "known on the internet" quotient rose above various levels.
22:02 πŸ”— JW_work And with regards to "anyone official" β€” we try pretty hard to specifically avoid the existence of people who are designated as "official", AFAIK.
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22:17 πŸ”— xmc ehhh
22:17 πŸ”— xmc they're typically more useless than anything else
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22:29 πŸ”— SketchCow EFNet, what's wrong with you
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22:32 πŸ”— xmc efnet is working on getting rid of their remaining servers
22:32 πŸ”— xmc while leaving the dns entries active
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22:52 πŸ”— FalconK * while leaving the DNS entries active and continuing to list them on the website
22:53 πŸ”— xmc yes
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23:03 πŸ”— arkiver working on livejournal now
23:04 πŸ”— MrRadar arkiver: Do you have any access to the Archivebot bot? Or is that only yipdw?
23:05 πŸ”— MrRadar It got disconnected and hasn't reappeared
23:05 πŸ”— arkiver Yeah, you should contact yipdw about that
23:05 πŸ”— arkiver or xmc, not sure
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23:05 πŸ”— MrRadar yipdw seems to be AFK right now, I'll try xmc
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23:32 πŸ”— Asparagir Bunch of SF Bay Area newspapers and their websites are gonna shut down early April. These two sites will need archiving:Β Β contracostatimes.com and insidebayarea.com
23:32 πŸ”— Asparagir Source: http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_29581099/bay-area-news-group-announces-newspaper-rebranding
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23:33 πŸ”— Asparagir Not sure if this is really better suited for ArchiveBot or for the ArchiveTeam Warrior. If the latter, I unfortunately still don't know how to make new jobs for it.
23:33 πŸ”— Asparagir (But am still willing to learn, and document what I learn, if anyone wants to take on an apprentice.)
23:34 πŸ”— JW_work I'll try to remember to stick them in archivebot once it gets unstuck
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23:38 πŸ”— Asparagir Thanks.
23:38 πŸ”— Asparagir More fun -- Poetica is shutting down, June 1st shutdown date. Conde Nast acquihire.
23:38 πŸ”— Asparagir https://blog.poetica.com/2016/03/01/our-next-chapter/
23:39 πŸ”— * Asparagir bangs the gong for SketchCow to step in and talk to them
23:41 πŸ”— Asparagir Hmmm, looks like very little of their data was public-facing. Not sure much can be done about that one.
23:45 πŸ”— SketchCow In the contemporary era, this is a sane and proper shutdown.
23:46 πŸ”— Asparagir Our standards for these kinds of things are so low. At least their blog post was not trying to be all flippant and faux-happy.
23:47 πŸ”— Asparagir (Well, except for "That’s why we’re so excited to announce...")
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