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00:18 🔗 mzhop Can someone here help with ETRG registration? Having some major probs in that dept. Or suggest channel I should go to? This is the only channel I could find for ExtraTorrent....
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02:41 🔗 vxbinaca Hi is this user one of you?: which one of you is https://archive.org/details/@start_select
02:42 🔗 vxbinaca Not trying to be rude but we could use your help, since he/she likes to back up YTPMV, I started a collection for it and am about to do large dumps into it. If this person could check the tupeup script (which I help maintain), it's been updates and they really should install the pip version it's got a lot of fixes.
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02:44 🔗 vxbinaca Start, I'll add you to the collection as an admin if you email me from the email you signed up with for Archive.org: vxbinaca@gmail.com
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04:53 🔗 Start vxbinaca: email sent
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07:41 🔗 Medowar was there a efnet desync right now?
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09:56 🔗 Scuttle ho hum... how do I get in contact with whoever is mirroring waffleimages?
09:59 🔗 PurpleSym Scuttle: #archivebot ?
10:00 🔗 Scuttle alright
10:11 🔗 Smiley hmmmm
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12:24 🔗 vxbinaca Start, replied. Thanks.
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14:03 🔗 SketchCow Portalgraphics is beginning to get the split-up and treatment.
14:03 🔗 SketchCow We really need to think about Yahoo! at some point.
14:03 🔗 SketchCow Also going to change the Wiki password. :)
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14:24 🔗 arkiver SketchCow: we're going to get flickr and tumblr
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14:32 🔗 PurpleSym What about Groups and Answers?
14:32 🔗 PurpleSym I’m running a discovery on Answers right now.
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14:37 🔗 SketchCow arkiver: Coordinate with Alexis
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16:48 🔗 arkiver PurpleSym: thanks! I'm going to have a look at groups and answers
16:49 🔗 arkiver SketchCow: yes
16:54 🔗 arkiver PurpleSym: what exactly are you discovering for answers? Just the IDs? For example 20160726094306AA9VsI6 for https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20160726094306AA9VsI6
16:56 🔗 PurpleSym arkiver: Yes.
16:56 🔗 PurpleSym I already have a list of all categories for all languages.
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16:57 🔗 arkiver PurpleSym: awesome
16:57 🔗 PurpleSym As for groups, I have a list of public groups, as well as scripts to fetch and upload them.
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16:58 🔗 arkiver How are you saving these groups?
16:59 🔗 arkiver I can have a project for the discovered answer IDs running soon so we can get that into the wayback machine
16:59 🔗 PurpleSym Groups: Scraping the API and saving to resource reconds in WARCs, see https://archive.org/details/@purplesymphony&tab=uploads?and[]=subject:"yahoo+groups"
17:00 🔗 PurpleSym Answers: That would be nice.
17:01 🔗 PurpleSym Also, for every known answer we can easily get its predecessor via /question/nextQuestion
17:01 🔗 arkiver Yes
17:02 🔗 arkiver Ok, great, sounds like we got a plan for yahoo :D
17:03 🔗 PurpleSym Except we need a lot of machines due to the rate limits.
17:03 🔗 arkiver That's what the warrior is for
17:03 🔗 PurpleSym Well, s/machines/ip addresses/
17:03 🔗 xmc yep
17:03 🔗 arkiver We can make our yahoo projects a little more known
17:04 🔗 arkiver Together with tumblr and flickr we should be able to make a lot of people interested in helping us save it
17:04 🔗 PurpleSym IPv6 *cough*
17:05 🔗 xmc PurpleSym: stop
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17:22 🔗 Start arkiver: are there any plans to archive rivals.com (yahoo-owned), yahoo shopping, and yahoo news (and similar news sites such as yahoo beauty, celebrity, finance, movies, music, sports, style, tech, tv)
17:22 🔗 DoomTay Maybe get at least the interface for Yahoo Search?
17:28 🔗 Nemo_bis Do they really risk being pulled outright? These are still where most Yahoo users go, AFAICT
17:32 🔗 DoomTay I can't help but take a pascal's wager approach
17:32 🔗 DoomTay Even if they're not in any danger now, they will still be saved in case something unexpected does happen
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19:08 🔗 whydomain A while ago I looked into ways of archiving non-public but anyone-can-join yahoo groups. Got sidetracked by schoolwork, but I'll see if I can look into it again soon.
19:09 🔗 whydomain (All I remember was that it was harder than it looks!)
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20:14 🔗 xmc hm, neat
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20:29 🔗 nightpool arkiver: my plate is pretty full at the moment (I help maintain New XKit for Tumblr) but I have a lot of experience with the tumblr API and am down to advise/help brainstorm/contribute code for the warrior project
20:30 🔗 HCross nightpool, he isnt here at the moment, and may not be for the rest of the week
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20:34 🔗 Lord_Nigh SketchCow: does IA or A.org have a copy of the hp softpaq archive? I archived it back in 2009 with wget but no warc, not sure what to do with it, about 27GB
20:34 🔗 xmc Lord_Nigh: http://archive.org/search.php
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20:36 🔗 Lord_Nigh they came from ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/ and amazingly enough that site still seems to be up
20:36 🔗 xmc nice
20:36 🔗 xmc a full grab of ftp.hp.com might be good to do sometime soon
20:36 🔗 Lord_Nigh though some gaps in numbering, so its possible i have some files which were removed since 2009
20:37 🔗 xmc tho that's a lot of data i bet
20:37 🔗 xmc hmmm cool
20:37 🔗 xmc http://archive.org/upload/
20:37 🔗 Lord_Nigh the softpaq dir ALONE is at least 27GB
20:37 🔗 Lord_Nigh no idea about the rest
20:37 🔗 xmc why are you dithering
20:37 🔗 xmc just tar and upload
20:37 🔗 xmc tar or zip, if you tar don't gzip
20:37 🔗 xmc so it can be browsed online
20:37 🔗 Lord_Nigh tar.zip? :P
20:38 🔗 xmc no.
20:38 🔗 Medowar Lord_Night: 27Gb is not much.
20:38 🔗 Lord_Nigh ok... I'll need to think about how to best do this, since the disk this is on has 3gb of free space
20:38 🔗 xmc you can tar to another volume
20:38 🔗 Lord_Nigh that's the idea
20:38 🔗 xmc you can tar to a box across the internet
20:38 🔗 xmc you can tar --remove-files
20:38 🔗 Lord_Nigh that i have no idea how to do
20:38 🔗 Lord_Nigh nor the latter
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20:39 🔗 xmc tar with the remove option won't take extra space
20:39 🔗 xmc it seems a bit dicey but it should work
20:39 🔗 Lord_Nigh 64gb usb flash drive, freshly formatted
20:39 🔗 Lord_Nigh should work
20:39 🔗 xmc sounds good
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20:41 🔗 Lord_Nigh tar will still be 27gb, while zip should be much less
20:41 🔗 Lord_Nigh I'll go with the latter
20:44 🔗 xmc ok
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20:51 🔗 DoomTay I kinda wish there was a way to navigate archives of FTPs without having to download the whole thing
20:51 🔗 DoomTay https://archive.org/details/ftp.microsoft.com for example
20:52 🔗 Lord_Nigh yeah, i'm all for expansion of the system to allow web-based ftp access
20:54 🔗 DoomTay Funny enough, last I checked, you can still access Microsoft's FTP through Window's "ftp" program even though you can't with a browser
20:54 🔗 DoomTay Though I heard nothing was uploaded there since 2010 or 2011
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23:24 🔗 joepie91_ DoomTay: you may have to tinker with it a bit, but something like this should be a good start
23:24 🔗 joepie91_ (URL='https://archive.org/download/ftp.microsoft.com/ftp.microsoft.com.zip'; curl -LH "Range: bytes=$(expr $(curl -L --head $URL | grep -E 'Content-Length: [0-9]+' | grep -oE '[0-9]+') - 80000000)-" $URL > /tmp/zip-file-header; unzip -l /tmp/zip-file-header)
23:24 🔗 joepie91_ :P
23:27 🔗 joepie91_ FYUI
23:27 🔗 joepie91_ FYI *
23:27 🔗 joepie91_ http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/07/27/turkey-closes-scores-tv-stations-newspapers/87627710/
23:27 🔗 joepie91_ Turkey ordered the shutdown Wednesday of scores of media outlets, including three news agencies, 16 television channels and 45 newspapers, the state-run Andalou news agency reported.
23:27 🔗 joepie91_ cc arkiver
23:28 🔗 DoomTay I thought he was going to be gone for the rest of the week
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23:41 🔗 dashcloud we don't have a softpaq in the first FTP grab I saw- https://archive.org/details/ftp-ftp.hp.com_pub-2013-10 and not sure about this one: https://archive.org/details/ftp-ftp.hp.com_ftp1

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