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13:55 🔗 DeepFiem funorb.com is shutting down. Has a somewhat sizable forum on services.funorb.com.
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16:09 🔗 ZoeB So what's the policy on archiving hate speech?
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16:18 🔗 ZoeB The only mention I can find is http://archive.fart.website/bin/irclogger_log/archiveteam?date=2015-07-10,Fri&sel=103#l99
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16:38 🔗 matthusb_ For news grabber I am getting this error sometimes, it is a known issue or should I file one?
16:38 🔗 matthusb_ ERROR Fatal exception.
16:38 🔗 matthusb_ Traceback (most recent call last):
16:38 🔗 matthusb_ File "/home/box/.local/lib/python3.4/site-packages/dns/rdata.py", line 389, in get_rdata_class
16:38 🔗 matthusb_ File "/home/box/.local/lib/python3.4/site-packages/dns/rdata.py", line 374, in import_module
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16:39 🔗 matthusb_ I did install dnspython with pip (and I tried pip3 too just in case)
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20:36 🔗 JAA matthusby: Well, Newsgrabber uses wpull, and for wpull, it's known that this error occurs occasionally, though I don't think anyone has figured out why it happens yet. I'm also not sure if the wpull version Newsgrabber is using (1.2.3) is affected by that bug; I've only seen it in wpull 2.0.x. In any case, you should probably ask in #newsgrabber.
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20:38 🔗 JAA ZoeB: Tricky question, and you're likely to get different answers from different people here. In my opinion, anything that isn't outright immoral is a good candidate for archival, and my personal limit for that is "anything that isn't child pornography, rape, or similar content" though others will certainly disagree with that. Then, it's a matter of prioritising, i.e. "is this information important
20:39 🔗 JAA enough to warrant the effort?", since there aren't unlimited resources for archival.
20:40 🔗 JAA FWIW, we did archive a lot of websites and social media profiles from the extreme ends of the political spectrum last year following the Charlottesville events; primarily far-right stuff at first, for obvious reasons, and later also far-left content.
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20:50 🔗 matthusby @JAA Thanks, will do
20:54 🔗 arkiver JAA: nice
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21:55 🔗 apache2 I guess also "could this conceivably have historical or nostalgic interest" is a good rule of thumb
21:57 🔗 apache2 without having to pass moral convictions on various politics, most of them will at some point have relevance to future politics
22:00 🔗 apache2 matthusby: this seems to be a leftist group archiving hate speech (and some FOIA requests, etc) https://www.unicornriot.ninja/category/records-release/
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22:25 🔗 matthusby ZoeB: ^
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