#archiveteam 2021-03-13,Sat

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20:28 🔗 source hi
20:29 🔗 source are Scientific papers not in sc-tech? only scimag?
20:32 🔗 source is scimag all english or most of it at least?
20:32 🔗 Nemo_bis source: are you aware this is not a libgen channel?
20:33 🔗 source nope not till now
20:33 🔗 Nemo_bis ok
20:33 🔗 Nemo_bis scimag is all sorts of things
20:33 🔗 Nemo_bis ArchiveTeam doesn't do much about archiving LibGen or Sci-Hub
20:34 🔗 source got here from your wiki, you have a page about the project
20:34 🔗 source my bad
20:34 🔗 Nemo_bis yeah I was just checking https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Library_Genesis
20:35 🔗 Nemo_bis On the wiki we keep information about a number of sources we keep an eye on
20:36 🔗 Nemo_bis source: were you interested in archiving libgen or what?
20:36 🔗 source that would be the one, I want the scihub by usenet nzb would be best
20:37 🔗 source all i can find is a torrent index in a bunch of parts
20:48 🔗 Nemo_bis source: you want to download all of it?
20:57 🔗 source well I was looking into how big it was and seeing how many more hard drives I would have to add but yea
21:00 🔗 Nemo_bis source: I expect it's well over 100 TB now
21:01 🔗 Nemo_bis source: I'm not sure what your goals or resources are, but the torrents are probably the best chance (if you can keep the disks online)
21:02 🔗 source all English?100tb damn
21:02 🔗 source well i first that it was part of the 32tb sci-tech and I was going to get some more hard drives to fit it
21:02 🔗 source but that's books not research papers
21:03 🔗 Nemo_bis mostly English but also Italian, French, German, Japanese etc.
21:04 🔗 source thought* it was part*
21:04 🔗 source dang that storage based on dna needs to come out haha. storage needs to get a lot cheaper
21:06 🔗 source so if scimag is alot of things including scihub how does your site state the whole thing is 68tb?
21:06 🔗 Nemo_bis well it's less than 1000 € of hard disks to contain a collection that until few years ago would have cost many millions just in building costs for a depot
21:06 🔗 Nemo_bis no, scimag is just sci-hub
21:07 🔗 Nemo_bis the wiki page states that the scimag collection up to a certain ID was 68 TB
21:07 🔗 Nemo_bis well, it's just sci-hub in recent years; in ancient times the sources were a bit mixed
21:08 🔗 source o I see yea that first reply is why I want to download it
21:08 🔗 source avg if $40 for a single reseach paper is crazy
21:08 🔗 source of*
21:08 🔗 Nemo_bis meanwhile if you want to do something "simple" you can reseed e.g. https://archive.org/details/crossref-pre-1909-scholarly-works
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21:09 🔗 Nemo_bis it's only 1 TB or so but not many have the patience to keep it seeded, even if it's legal and everything
21:09 🔗 source awesome doing that now
21:10 🔗 source 554gb
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21:14 🔗 Nemo_bis there's also the companion torrent https://archive.org/details/crossref-pre-1923-scholarly-works
21:14 🔗 source why don't any of these archives ever use the titles :/
21:15 🔗 Nemo_bis the titles are in CrossRef
21:15 🔗 Nemo_bis f968e22840df243befc6dd123e7d37613002fca8 is another one https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/9ifnda/600_gb_corpus_of_all_paywalled_scholarly_sources/
21:17 🔗 source would all of this be in scimg?
21:17 🔗 Nemo_bis probably, assuming you can find the torrents seeded
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21:19 🔗 Nemo_bis and just in case you don't know what you're getting into: try not to get killed by the feds https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz
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21:25 🔗 source so messed up
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21:32 🔗 source so is archiveteam just a wiki and keeps up on other projects or does it have its own repo or archive?
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21:34 🔗 Nemo_bis source: most archiveteam projects store their results on archive.org
21:34 🔗 source cool
21:35 🔗 Nemo_bis but the wiki also contains potential projects and projects considered but abandoned (e.g. to avoid overlap with other efforts)
21:35 🔗 source wish someone had all of scimg on gdrive so I could just copy it lol
21:38 🔗 Nemo_bis pretty sure someone does
21:39 🔗 Nemo_bis that's why some of those torrents are seeded on request
21:39 🔗 source but I need its shared or at least know who to ask haha
21:41 🔗 source I wonder if google runs dedupe on drives haha
21:41 🔗 Nemo_bis yes
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