#archiveteam 2011-07-05,Tue

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00:16 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow alard: Let me know if you need to be put in touch with internal archive.org guys about the whole integration of WARC thing.
00:18 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin so I uploaded http://www.archive.org/details/UpcDatabase2003-02-13 but there seems to be no way to select a media type of "data"
00:19 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow There's sort of.
00:19 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow I can add it into the archiveteam collection, if you're fine with that.
00:20 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin I don't really care
00:20 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow That's the spirit
00:20 ๐Ÿ”— zumthing SketchCow: any chance you can put up that ls -laR somewhere?
00:21 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow http://www.archive.org/details/UpcDatabase2003-02-13
00:22 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin I was gonna do the latest dump from upcdatabase.com but they've turned gay and stopped offering it
00:23 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin I still get the "you must pick a collection" screen
00:25 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Add &recache=1
00:26 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin tried that
00:27 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Archive.org has some very interesting approaches to making stuff available... after a few minutes it really should work for you. I can tell you, from the inside, it's working.
00:27 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Going to http://www.archive.org/details/archiveteam will show it.
00:27 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin weird now it works
00:27 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin thank you
00:49 ๐Ÿ”— Tatsujin http://forums.lostlevels.org/viewtopic.php?t=2582
01:55 ๐Ÿ”— marceloan Is there any website that we can do our own private archive?
01:59 ๐Ÿ”— marceloan I found FreezePage, 10MB of space for archiving pages. Any alternative?
06:09 ๐Ÿ”— db48x :(
06:10 ๐Ÿ”— db48x Message from syslogd@celebdil at Jul 4 23:09:12 ...
06:10 ๐Ÿ”— db48x kernel:[705409.276363] Oops: 0002 [#1] SMP
08:03 ๐Ÿ”— alard SketchCow: I don't know if you're around, but I have finished uploading a dataset of the (more or less complete) Friendster social graph. http://ia700601.us.archive.org/14/incoming/gv/friendster-dataset-201107/
10:08 ๐Ÿ”— Tatsujin http://www.virusbtn.com/news/2011/07_05.xml?rss
11:05 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Thank you, alard.
11:08 ๐Ÿ”— BlueMax1 Hola SketchCow
11:17 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow http://www.archive.org/details/friendster-dataset-201107
11:17 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Seems not to be touched yet
11:22 ๐Ÿ”— alard SketchCow: Link doesn't work?
11:26 ๐Ÿ”— alard (I think the question should be how to turn the upload from blindtiger to an item on archive.org.)
12:01 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Oh, I see what you did.
12:01 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Holy crap, everything on blindtiger is web viewable!
12:03 ๐Ÿ”— alard It is, yes. :)
12:04 ๐Ÿ”— alard It's quite useful to see if your upload has arrived. But I can imagine that it may be not how it should be.
12:06 ๐Ÿ”— alard Shall I upload the files again through the archive.org submission form? Or is there a simple way to move it there?
12:07 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow I have a way.
12:07 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow I will do it.
12:07 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow It's f'in awesome.
12:15 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow 226 3.363 seconds (measured here), 12.87 Mbytes per second
12:15 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow 226-File successfully transferred
12:15 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow 45367345 bytes sent in 3.36 secs (13202.1 kB/s)
12:16 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow So yeah, I'll have it over.
12:16 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow I'm splitting groups and the rest.
12:40 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow http://www.archive.org/details/friendster-groups-201107
13:07 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow http://www.archive.org/details/friendster-dataset-201107
13:42 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Table Talk being uploaded into archive.org now
13:58 ๐Ÿ”— alard That's great, thanks. I'll submit the links to some of the network / social computing data repositories.
14:30 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow http://www.archive.org/details/archiveteam-tabletalk-panic
14:30 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Please download that if you want a copy
15:05 ๐Ÿ”— Spirit_ hey
15:06 ๐Ÿ”— jch SketchCow: do you knwo if you get prior access to the tapes of your defcon appearance?
15:12 ๐Ÿ”— Spirit_ his 198th defcon
15:13 ๐Ÿ”— jch That's pretty awesome.
18:07 ๐Ÿ”— closure alard: awesome work
19:05 ๐Ÿ”— alard closure: thanks!
20:04 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Anyone know the link for the google groups repo?
20:04 ๐Ÿ”— Spirit_ github google gargler iirc
20:04 ๐Ÿ”— Spirit_ i mean
20:04 ๐Ÿ”— Spirit_ google github google gargler ;)
20:05 ๐Ÿ”— underscor It's on launchpad, I know that
20:05 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Google gargler was the one for the videos
20:06 ๐Ÿ”— Spirit_ oops
20:07 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Google_Groups_Files
20:07 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Aha
20:09 ๐Ÿ”— alard Or for increased speed through ipv6: https://gist.github.com/30cff29b602b818d018c
20:12 ๐Ÿ”— underscor alard: ooh
20:15 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe ideally, all AT-related stuff would go here: https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/
20:16 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe but google groups files isn't there
20:16 ๐Ÿ”— * underscor frowns at ndurner
20:16 ๐Ÿ”— underscor :D
20:16 ๐Ÿ”— alard ndurner likes his bazaar.
20:17 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Oh man, 14.8Mbps
20:17 ๐Ÿ”— underscor MBps*
20:17 ๐Ÿ”— underscor I'm loving it
20:18 ๐Ÿ”— ndurner :-)
20:18 ๐Ÿ”— alard ndurner: how are the quota?
20:19 ๐Ÿ”— ndurner a bit high
20:19 ๐Ÿ”— ndurner ... the load, not the quota ;-)
20:20 ๐Ÿ”— alard Ah. I've started a few instances this morning, now that my Friendster project has finished.
20:20 ๐Ÿ”— ndurner yes, I have seen it. thanks for coming back!
20:21 ๐Ÿ”— ndurner oh, and good work on the social graph!
20:22 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Gah
20:23 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Damn college blocks inbound IMCP
20:23 ๐Ÿ”— underscor ICMP*
20:23 ๐Ÿ”— underscor And he.net won't allow you to set up an endpoint if they can't ping you
20:24 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe "for security!"
20:24 ๐Ÿ”— ndurner We need to establish JSON-based pings
20:24 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe and for broken shit
20:25 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Yeah, apparently blocking ICMP is "secure"
20:25 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Even though it breaks the internet
20:25 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Well. not really "breaks"
20:25 ๐Ÿ”— underscor But still
20:25 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe have I complained today about the crappy 2wire devices at&t insists on using
20:25 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Not yet
20:25 ๐Ÿ”— underscor but they're shit
20:25 ๐Ÿ”— underscor You're preaching to the choir
20:26 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe (sure, you can escape them for plain DSL, but for U-Verse, you HAVE to use it, due to the 802.1X)
20:26 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe I can't traceroute from home because the stupid piece of shit doesn't know what to do with ICMP timeout notifications
20:27 ๐Ÿ”— underscor haha
20:27 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe (funny... I had that problem with a cisco ISDN router at one point, but linux has no problem)
20:28 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe i would love it if I could set the thing to bridge-only and do pppoe or whatever on the linux box itself
20:29 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Coderjoe: That'd be nice
20:29 ๐Ÿ”— underscor ndurner: D:
20:29 ๐Ÿ”— underscor --2011-07-05 16:28:55-- http://archiveteamorg.appspot.com/getgrp
20:29 ๐Ÿ”— underscor 2011-07-05 16:28:55 ERROR 404: Not Found.
20:29 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Connecting to archiveteamorg.appspot.com|72.14.204.141|:80... connected.
20:29 ๐Ÿ”— underscor HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
20:29 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Resolving archiveteamorg.appspot.com... 72.14.204.141
20:29 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Error downloading group names
20:29 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Error, waiting 4 seconds...
20:30 ๐Ÿ”— * ndurner nods
20:30 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe and if you have a business UVerse Internet account with multiple static IPs, don't even TRY assigning them to the same mac address... it REQUIRES the use of DHCP
20:30 ๐Ÿ”— underscor hahaha
20:30 ๐Ÿ”— underscor fun fun fun
20:30 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe if the system didn't do a DHCP request, the thing assumes the system is down
20:33 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Yay, it works now, ndurner
20:33 ๐Ÿ”— ndurner it's back
20:40 ๐Ÿ”— soultcer ndurner: What does 501 Not Implemented mean? Did I break something?
20:40 ๐Ÿ”— soultcer Also, do I need to update to revision 23 from rev 21 if I only do discovery?
20:40 ๐Ÿ”— ndurner soultcer: no, it's actually 501: Internal Server Error: throttled
20:41 ๐Ÿ”— ndurner r21 is fine
20:41 ๐Ÿ”— underscor http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/sys/2478539974.html
20:41 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Sata/IDE?
20:41 ๐Ÿ”— underscor How does that work?
20:42 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe I could see that for confusion about power plugs
20:43 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe (several earlier SATA drives took either SATA power or regular 4pin)
20:43 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe but those are straight up PATA
20:43 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe perhaps he's confused about the jumper block?
20:43 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe or just trying to show up in more search results
20:48 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Anyone interested in splitting a server 4 ways?
20:48 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Bill is due sorta soon, and the other guy I was sharing it with bailed
20:49 ๐Ÿ”— underscor and I'm having a hard time coming up with my half, let alone all of it
20:49 ๐Ÿ”— soultcer underscor: Sounds interesting, how does that work?
20:49 ๐Ÿ”— underscor It's 4x2TB drives, 20TB of gbit bandwidth
20:49 ๐Ÿ”— underscor 4GB RAM
20:49 ๐Ÿ”— underscor soultcer: Uh, paypal, check, or concealed cash works for me
20:49 ๐Ÿ”— underscor (I have to pay by wire)
20:50 ๐Ÿ”— underscor (to the server company_
20:50 ๐Ÿ”— underscor )*
20:51 ๐Ÿ”— soultcer So each share is "1 GB of ram, 0,5 TB HDD (assuming RAID), 5 TB traffic"? How much do you pay for one share?
20:51 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe where is this?
20:51 ๐Ÿ”— underscor euserv.de
20:51 ๐Ÿ”— underscor soultcer: Basically
20:51 ๐Ÿ”— underscor It's not rigidly separated hough
20:51 ๐Ÿ”— underscor though*
20:51 ๐Ÿ”— underscor I mean, it's just one debian system, with equally shared root access
20:52 ๐Ÿ”— soultcer ah
20:52 ๐Ÿ”— underscor If I can get 3 other people, it's $50 a month/person
20:52 ๐Ÿ”— underscor They allow bittorrent too, just as an aside
20:52 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe 20TB / ( 1Gbit/s) is approx. 1.851851852 days.
20:52 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe >_<
20:52 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Coderjoe: I've used up to 60TB on that server
20:52 ๐Ÿ”— underscor and not been ratelimited
20:52 ๐Ÿ”— underscor So I think they secretly don't care
20:53 ๐Ÿ”— underscor It's supposed to be 20TB of Gbit, then you get 10 more TB at 100Mbit, then unlimited 10Mbit
20:53 ๐Ÿ”— soultcer underscor: Check out http://kvm-hosting.org/ btw, it's a similar model, some people sharing a server, but split via virtualisation
20:53 ๐Ÿ”— underscor soultcer: Yeah, I've a few virtual servers
20:53 ๐Ÿ”— underscor I like bare metal though
20:55 ๐Ÿ”— soultcer KVM is pretty darn fast if you only have 4 virtualized machines running, and if you don't really know how to set it up I can recommend Proxmox, a debian-based virtual machine hosting system
20:56 ๐Ÿ”— underscor oic
20:57 ๐Ÿ”— soultcer Do you have the "Filer L"? Do they offer IPv6 and/or multiple IPv4?
20:58 ๐Ÿ”— underscor No native IPv6 support yet, but I've been pushing a good 4 or 5 TB with hurricane electric from it
20:58 ๐Ÿ”— underscor It comes with a /29
20:58 ๐Ÿ”— underscor And yeah, it's the filer L
20:58 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Oh, apparently they do offer IPv6 now
20:58 ๐Ÿ”— underscor I see it on the page
20:58 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Would have been nice if they had emailed me
20:58 ๐Ÿ”— underscor lol
20:59 ๐Ÿ”— underscor More IPv4 IPs are only 1 EUR/Month
21:04 ๐Ÿ”— Cowering does anyone know of a good, free DNS host? something like MyBind?
21:05 ๐Ÿ”— Spirit_ i am the worst git user ever
21:05 ๐Ÿ”— Cowering lol, what? you don't GIT it?
21:05 ๐Ÿ”— * underscor groans
21:06 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Dinner time :V
21:06 ๐Ÿ”— Spirit_ "i fixed it"
21:06 ๐Ÿ”— Spirit_ "oops, a private path from my local machine"
21:06 ๐Ÿ”— Spirit_ "fixed"
21:06 ๐Ÿ”— Spirit_ "oops wait i did something else"
21:06 ๐Ÿ”— underscor I have to say, the campus cafeteria is absolutely magnificent
21:06 ๐Ÿ”— Spirit_ "now it is really fixed"
21:06 ๐Ÿ”— soultcer Cowering: Did you try xname.org or he.net dns hosting?
21:16 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe underscor: which server? or is it custom?
21:17 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe my deutch is weak
21:18 ๐Ÿ”— soultcer Coderjoe: The Filer L: https://ssl.euserv.de/produkte/server/rootserver/filer-2011/filer_l_giga_2011.php
21:18 ๐Ÿ”— * filer does not endorse that product
21:19 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe aha
21:19 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe I tried looking at their UK page for english, which failed. the uk site has different servers
21:20 ๐Ÿ”— soultcer filer: Haha, why not? it has losts of diskspace for archiving and a kick-ass name ;-)
21:20 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe would be the Giga version for gigabit internets, if their limiting is working properly
21:21 ๐Ÿ”— filer no endorsement deal till I get free samples
21:25 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe Netzwerk + Traffic
21:25 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe
21:25 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe 1x 100Mbit/s
21:25 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe Netzwerkanbindung
21:25 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe Traffic inklusive ร‚ยน
21:25 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe garantierte Bandbreite 100Mbit/s ร‚ยน
21:25 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe RZ-interner Traffic kostenfrei
21:25 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe alternativ gegen Aufpreis:
21:25 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe "Filer L Giga" mit 1Gbit/s
21:25 ๐Ÿ”— soultcer underscor has the Gigabit version
21:26 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe which is 30EUR more expensive >_<
21:27 ๐Ÿ”— soultcer But has Gigabit speeds! Archiving with Gigabit speeds, fuck yeah
21:28 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe if the quoted prices were the same digits but in USD, then fuck yeah I would get one
21:28 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe but even the 100mbit one is a little pricy :(
21:47 ๐Ÿ”— alard In case there's anyone with wiki-admin-powers online: a certain Joeyboi has posted a valuable contribution about loan modification to the WikiTeam page.
21:47 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Coderjoe: It's only a 1/4 of the price, though
21:47 ๐Ÿ”— underscor If I can find two others who are interested
21:49 ๐Ÿ”— soultcer Did you already order the server?
21:49 ๐Ÿ”— underscor I've had it for like 7 months now
21:49 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe i meant for it all to myself
21:49 ๐Ÿ”— underscor Coderjoe: oic
21:50 ๐Ÿ”— underscor soultcer: The previous person couldn't afford their portion, and I can't afford the whole thing
21:55 ๐Ÿ”— soultcer http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=File:This_Will_Only_Hurt_a_Bit.jpg O_O
21:55 ๐Ÿ”— underscor haha
22:44 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex o_O
22:46 ๐Ÿ”— db48x underscor: I still don't understand that plan
22:47 ๐Ÿ”— db48x underscor: 8TB of disk space isn't a whole lot when you can download that fast
23:09 ๐Ÿ”— godane db48x: we need hvd discs bad
23:09 ๐Ÿ”— godane http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_Versatile_Disc
23:15 ๐Ÿ”— db48x or something
23:17 ๐Ÿ”— db48x http://newscenter.lbl.gov/feature-stories/2009/06/03/billion-year-ultra-dense-memory-chip/
23:35 ๐Ÿ”— dashcloud underscor: you actually went ahead with the server plan?

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