[00:02] dashcloud: they weren't neccessarily all spam users. many of them were just users with no edits [00:03] (aside from the obvious "90328u4oj buy some crap" ones, that is) [00:06] so no one else makes the same mistake I did, you should avoid Highpoint RAID cards unless you plan on running old Linux distros permanently- they provide unmaintained binary blobs only [00:07] aaaawesome [00:07] i avoid them ever since I bought a highpoint card and the system wouldn't even post with the card installed [00:08] it's slightly better than that- you'll see the RAID controller correctly detected, and kernel shows /dev/sdb, but nothing else- no drive size or attach messages [00:08] and there's this unknown IDE device right after the controller in lspci (which is apparently the important part of the card) [00:09] can you paste the two lines? [00:14] give me about 5 minutes or so to re-add the card [00:24] 2f:00.0 RAID bus controller: HighPoint Technologies, Inc. Device 0622 (rev 01) [00:24] 2f:00.1 IDE interface: Device 1b4b:91a4 (rev 11) [00:25] I'm running a comparatively old kernel, but a quick search of the 1b4b number reveals some very recent bug reports on the card not showing any drives [00:36] same card, separate subfunctions [03:20] Have any of you guys played with ceph as a filesystem? [09:04] Back. [09:04] It was a good birthday. [09:04] Birthday girl is fighting cancer, so she had to cut out during it. [09:48] http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/vegasproassist [11:59] Can people help me with a wiki page for saving floppies? [11:59] I'll do it, but if someone can check my stuff, it'll help. [12:05] http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=File:Disks.jpg [12:45] http://www.kryoflux.com/ seems like a good alternative [12:45] I know. [12:45] I have others. [12:45] I'm just going to put them all up there. [12:45] for my c64 collection I prefer to use native drives, though [12:47] Well, bear in mind, Kryoflux is kind of insane. [13:47] http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Rescuing_Floppy_Disks [13:54] http://events.ccc.de/camp/2011/Fahrplan/track/Hacker%20Space%20Program/4551.en.html [14:03] is camp smaller than the congress? [14:04] Yes [15:13] Huzzah, someone trying to school me on how to present myself to not be abrasive. [15:14] Told HIM to fuck off [15:16] Just discovered virtualdub is exporting out a 90gb per hour uncompressed stream [15:16] Oh well [15:16] isn't there stuff llike huffyuv that can help? or are you already using it? [15:17] huffpuff [15:28] Oh, no worries, it's all fine. [16:02] great site http://virtuallyfun.superglobalmegacorp.com/ [16:10] Dude, I used to use Stacker! :) [17:23] wow, http://virtuallyfun.superglobalmegacorp.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/stac-card.jpg [17:31] i'm so old.. i used to own a stacker card [19:31] Ha ha [19:31] By my estimate, I am being sent 2000 floppies [19:36] 2 GB. [19:38] 2GB? [19:38] wouldn't 2000floppies be 7GB? [19:38] 3.5MB floppies [19:38] 5 1/4 floppies I guess. [19:40] ah, i guessed the newer ones :P [19:41] Most 5 1/4s are, like, 144k or thereabouts. [19:43] I have some 3 1/2 with my first tutorials. [19:43] From 2001-2. [19:44] I had hundreds of 5 1/4 which I give to a friend. And a Amstrad PC 1512. [19:44] Bad. [19:44] gave* [19:48] I've never seen a 5 1/4 [19:48] got some 3 1/2s though [19:48] yay youth :P [19:49] pffft, 5 1/4 [19:49] real men use 8", 256kb, single sided floppies [19:50] OH YEAH? [19:50] DID YOU HEARD ABOUT THAT USENET ARCHIVIST? REAL MEN. [19:52] Ha, that pic of the guy next to the tapes is fun. [19:54] unrelated: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/ipq54/the_author_of_dos_writes_about_ancient_technology/ [19:54] the best part about /r/programming is submitting stuff that is almost, but not quite, about programming [19:55] that way you'll inspire lots of arguments in the commenting section [19:55] And trolling? [19:55] heavens no [19:55] I never troll [19:56] Thanks. [19:58] Hey alard, I can't connect to your server to continue sending the files! [19:58] "Connection timed out" [21:21] So, is anyone here coming to Chaos Camp (in .de)? [21:23] Nope. [21:24] nah [21:32] boo [21:32] I'll be there [21:34] have fun :P [21:45] I'm so bad at using linux [22:32] I can't even install apache right. [22:42] The Google Hangout is strange. [23:15] spangle: just download the setup.exe using internet explorer and double click on it, gosh [23:15] don't forget to right click and "save as" [23:17] bbot_: I've ben using linux for a couple years now, still can't use it well :P [23:17] also, haven't used windows in a year or so [23:19] currently having problems installing apache with a different http directory than default [23:25] what version/distro of linux [23:28] arch linux [23:28] I've been going through this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LAMP but stuff just isn't working [23:29] I changed all the places that say /srv/http to say /home/dr-spangle/http [23:29] and then the guide says "Do not forget to change the Deny from all line, otherwise you will get 403 error too. " [23:29] what deny from all line? and what do I change it to? [23:29] if you aren't looking to set up a separate vitrualhost for your site, you should be able to edit the default one and change DocumentRoot and tags to match the path you want [23:29] well, do you get a 403 error at all? if not, maybe you can ignore it [23:30] but usally Deny from / Allow from rules are inside the tags [23:30] I do get a 403 error [23:30] http://81.178.143.10/ :( [23:31] ok [23:31] so grep the httpd.conf for 'Deny' [23:31] if you find a 'Deny from all' you probably want to change that to either 'Allow from all' if you want people to be able to reach your webserver other than you [23:32] it's rather uncommon to Deny all, out-of-the-box. That must be an arch thing perhaps. [23:32] there's this bit: [23:33] Options FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None Order deny,allow Deny from all [23:33] ok [23:33] so that's the one, yep [23:33] it's saying 'don't let anyone view this' by default [23:33] if you want the public to see your site (i.e not just you), change 'Deny from all' to 'Allow from all' [23:33] and restart httpd [23:34] I asked a friend about that bit and his was the same as mine [23:34] changed and restarted, still 403 [23:35] might need to be [23:35] have you put an index.html in /srv/http ? [23:35] if that is where you want to serve files, i mean [23:37] there was another thing with the /srv/http in it, I changed that to /home/dr-spangle/http [23:37] oh right i misread where you wanted to serve stuff from [23:37] I figured it would list the directory if there was no index, but added an index now, no change, still 403 [23:38] check your /var/log/http/error.log or wherever apache says it's logging to [23:38] this can even be caused by permissions on directories/files, if the http user can't read it [23:38] the error log might give clues. [23:40] [Fri Jul 15 00:34:00 2011] [error] [client 192.168.0.8] (13)Permission denied: access to / denied [Fri Jul 15 00:35:15 2011] [error] [client 59.167.182.161] [23:40] that's me :) [23:40] ah, cool [23:41] sthere's the same messages from me too [23:41] so I still think it's a 'Deny from' thing [23:42] maybe have a look at http://library.linode.com/lamp-guides/arch-linux [23:42] Linode's guides are usually pretty good [23:42] it looks like they use a tag in each vhost, maybe that is needed after all (without the /home/dr-spangle/http), but inside the VirtualHost [23:43] it might be easier for you to create a new like those guides rather than edit the default one [23:45] hmmm [23:46] in the "Prepare Apache for Virtual Hosting" section [23:46] the first excerpt is saying it used to be /srv/http [23:46] the second excerpt says it used to be /srv/httpd [23:46] maybe a typo - doesn't matter though [23:47] you are going to change it regardless [23:47] their changes also change to /srv/http/default and /srv/httpd/default respectively [23:47] you are wanting to put it in /home/dr-spangle/http so either way you'll be changing those entries [23:48] but that's for their default one isn't it? [23:48] then the vhost goes where i want it [23:48] yeah. but i think if you are making another vhost, it doesn't really matter what the default one says [23:49] think of them as two isolated blocks of config that can define totally different paths and sites and even where to log to [23:50] but shouldn't they say the same thing? [23:52] the default vhost should be consistent with itself, yes, but can be entirely different to what you want to put in a separate vhost [23:52] in linode's example they seem to be saying the default config is wrong and adjust the path to be httpd instead of http. but they don't actually put anything in there later, so maybe they're just being nitpicky [23:53] gah, they have made other mistakes in that guide.. [23:54] they have documentroot's of /srv/www/example.com/public_html/ but later they mkdir /srv/httpd/example.com [23:54] so much for my statement of 'linode guides are pretty good' :) [23:54] lol [23:55] i think it's a case that all archlinux guides are confusing and go into too much detail in one paragraph, then not enough a paragraph later [23:56] the force of archlinux guides being bad overpowers the forces of linode guides being good [23:56] haha [23:56] ok, setting up the vhosts now, not an effing clue what i'm really doing :P [23:57] any reason you chose arch? [23:57] over say, debian, ubuntu etc, more traditional 'server' distros [23:57] (not that there's anything wrong with that :) ) [23:57] i used arch before [23:57] fair enough [23:57] one of my friends used it and convinced me to [23:57] but now i don't talk to him [23:57] yeah my junior sysadmin swears by it [23:58] I really should use a different distro [23:59] one I might have a fighting chance at using properly [23:59] if you get your virtualhost going it might be easier. [23:59] just a smaller block of config, easier to read [23:59] i have no clue what i'm doing with this virtualhost thing, not sure what it is nor how it works