#archiveteam 2011-07-21,Thu

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07:39 πŸ”— jch ersi: Me too
07:40 πŸ”— jch Are you from Sweden? I think I recall something like that...
07:40 πŸ”— jch Because if you are, den hemliga traedgaarden arranges for a bus (which I'm going to join)
07:40 πŸ”— jch #s23c
07:41 πŸ”— jch #s23k
07:42 πŸ”— jch This is important
07:42 πŸ”— jch https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6554331
07:42 πŸ”— jch Please help seeding this
07:42 πŸ”— jch 32 GB of scientific articles in the public domain
07:42 πŸ”— jch Previously behind a paywall at JSTOR
07:43 πŸ”— jch A guy used his university license to download all of it, now faces charges for copyright infringement
07:43 πŸ”— soultcer Is that from Aaron Swartz's "attack" on JSTOR?
07:44 πŸ”— jch Yes.
07:44 πŸ”— jch Or rather, it's the same articles
07:45 πŸ”— jch I don't know where the data comes from
07:45 πŸ”— jch But please seed.
07:45 πŸ”— jch And since they're in the PD, one could justify them being hosted by archive.org? (nudge SketchCow)
07:48 πŸ”— ersi jch: Yeah, you remember correctly. :) I'm flying there, though
07:48 πŸ”— ersi jch: And besides, I bet the bus goes from like Malmâ or something else really down south
07:48 πŸ”— jch Nope
07:48 πŸ”— jch sthlm -> gbg -> malmo
07:48 πŸ”— ersi oh dang :)
07:49 πŸ”— ersi flight is already booked and paid for though
07:49 πŸ”— jch I'm going to live in Stockholm in a couple of weeks
07:49 πŸ”— jch OK
07:49 πŸ”— jch See you down there though
07:49 πŸ”— ersi You are? Neat!
07:49 πŸ”— ersi poke me on IRC and we'll have lunch or a beer or something :P
07:50 πŸ”— jch sure thing
07:50 πŸ”— jch I need a place to live though
07:50 πŸ”— jch You know any people with a vacant room
07:50 πŸ”— jch or maybe a collective
07:50 πŸ”— jch Can pay from aug 1.
07:51 πŸ”— jch Will move in the 5th, then going to hacknight.se and CCC, coming back the 15th, living there 4real :)
07:51 πŸ”— jch Studying at KTH next semester
07:51 πŸ”— ersi unfortunally not, but I'll poke and see if any one I know has
07:51 πŸ”— jch cool, thanks
07:52 πŸ”— jch http://kollektiv24.forum24.se/kollektiv24-about989.html
07:52 πŸ”— ersi I'll pass it on :)
07:53 πŸ”— Wyatt Speaking of JSTOR... http://www.google.com/search?q=%22JSTOR+transmission+must+contain+the+same+copyright+notice%22+filetype:pdf
07:54 πŸ”— Wyatt I wonder if there's a good way to download all of those (while deduping).
07:55 πŸ”— Wyatt Wow, now that I look, yesterday there were under 200k results for that query. Today it says 476k.
08:13 πŸ”— jch ersi: thanks.
08:13 πŸ”— jch I am now at work
10:22 πŸ”— jch ersi: up for splitting a kryoflux?
10:22 πŸ”— jch we could do some public good at the CCC
10:23 πŸ”— jch i'm completely certain that there's going to be lots of people there with old disks that need saving
11:35 πŸ”— SketchCow Or, maybe we should announce a promotion for that.
11:35 πŸ”— jch The KryoFlux?
11:35 πŸ”— SketchCow Yeah, an ArchiveTeam appearance for CCC
11:35 πŸ”— jch I wouldn't mind
11:36 πŸ”— jch And there's still time
11:36 πŸ”— jch what does it mean to announce a promotion? (sorry...)
11:36 πŸ”— jch announce an appearance, or some kind of competition or what?
11:38 πŸ”— ersi announce an apperance most likely
11:41 πŸ”— jch SketchCow: would you come?
11:47 πŸ”— SketchCow No.
11:47 πŸ”— SketchCow But I'd promote it.
11:48 πŸ”— jch Cool.
11:53 πŸ”— jch ersi: should we do it?
12:01 πŸ”— SketchCow 5362.9 / 33259.3 MB Rate: 2135.5 / 4801.4 KB Uploaded: 3189.5 MB [15%] 0d 1:39 [ R: 0.59]
12:01 πŸ”— SketchCow JSTOR_01_PhilTrans
12:01 πŸ”— SketchCow So I'm on that.
12:01 πŸ”— jch Cool
12:01 πŸ”— jch Is it by any chance ending on archive.org
12:01 πŸ”— SketchCow This one I'm actually going to check with them first for an opinion.
12:02 πŸ”— jch As I understand it it's Public Domain data
12:02 πŸ”— SketchCow Activism is cute, but Maxwell is right, there - he's punching some mighty clouds.
12:02 πŸ”— SketchCow Oh, you read it Public Domain from the description on a torrent on the Pirate Bay, did you?
12:03 πŸ”— jch yes, and from Aaron Swartz' (sp?) breakdown
12:03 πŸ”— SketchCow Aaron is cute as all heck but his knowledge of law is shaky.
12:05 πŸ”— jch Guy's young!
12:05 πŸ”— jch Maxwell
12:05 πŸ”— SketchCow Anyway, since the entire purpose of this is to punch JSTOR in the eye, I'm just going to check with my folks about their opinion.
12:05 πŸ”— ersi Other sources says the works are copyrighted
12:05 πŸ”— jch ok
12:05 πŸ”— SketchCow There is a good chance they are.
12:05 πŸ”— ersi They however "should be" in the public domain, for the better of the world (presumably)
12:05 πŸ”— SketchCow This is a cute fight but it's not archiveteam's fight.
12:06 πŸ”— ersi We do like them datas though
12:06 πŸ”— SketchCow this isn't user generated data being destroyed by forces outside of people's control
12:06 πŸ”— SketchCow Oh, we LOVE them datas
12:06 πŸ”— SketchCow But this information has lots of advocates
12:06 πŸ”— SketchCow And maybe I can put it up, of course.
12:06 πŸ”— SketchCow But I will likely check
12:06 πŸ”— ersi Certainly spot on
12:06 πŸ”— jch Cool
12:07 πŸ”— jch ersi: Are you up for splitting a kryoflux?
12:07 πŸ”— ersi splitting?
12:07 πŸ”— SketchCow I've already downloaded 20% of this thing.
12:07 πŸ”— jch ersi: the costs
12:07 πŸ”— jch I will buy you free of it when I return to Copenhagen (january)
12:07 πŸ”— jch I just don't have the money to pay for it all right now
12:07 πŸ”— ersi What does it go for? (I have no clue)
12:08 πŸ”— jch It's for backing up old floppies
12:08 πŸ”— SketchCow I believe $80
12:08 πŸ”— jch I was thinking we could bring it to the camp, and make a statement in English and German telling people to bring their archaic stuff for archival
12:08 πŸ”— jch I misunderstood your question, it seems ;)
12:08 πŸ”— jch ҂¬100 if you want it with cables and all
12:09 πŸ”— jch http://webstore.kryoflux.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1&products_id=29
12:09 πŸ”— jch Then we'll need a 3.5in and a 5.25in drive
12:09 πŸ”— jch There is an old arcade game village there. They probably have a lot of games.
12:10 πŸ”— SketchCow If you guys want to do that, we could talk to the people running it to make it a promoted/known event
12:10 πŸ”— jch unless it's all arcade machines
12:10 πŸ”— jch I have connections in that regard
12:10 πŸ”— jch And I can have stuff translated to German
12:14 πŸ”— jch (probably)
12:17 πŸ”— SketchCow Damn.
12:17 πŸ”— SketchCow So I'm over here downloading archive.org shareware CDs from a collection uploaded about 5-8 years ago.
12:17 πŸ”— SketchCow And of course preparing to upload hundreds of mine in ISO form.
12:18 πŸ”— SketchCow Some of these, man... these are some lame ass CD-ROMs
12:18 πŸ”— SketchCow And they did a horrible job describing them.
12:18 πŸ”— jch IMPORTANT HISTORICAL DATA.
12:18 πŸ”— jch ;)
12:23 πŸ”— SketchCow http://www.archive.org/details/BetweenHeavenHell
12:23 πŸ”— SketchCow Oh, it's all going in, make no mistake.
12:36 πŸ”— Ymgve I bet that if you used something like deduplication on the shareware collection it would end up being less than 10GB :P
13:09 πŸ”— SketchCow Some of these are definite crap.
13:09 πŸ”— SketchCow Or do you mean the whole site? no way.
13:10 πŸ”— jch SketchCow: Do you have the magazine Atari Life at hand?
13:11 πŸ”— jch Atari Age*
13:12 πŸ”— jch This video was kindda interesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqR6fnxAnN0
13:13 πŸ”— jch Oh, they're already archived here
13:13 πŸ”— jch http://www.atariage.com/magazines/atariage.html
13:15 πŸ”— SketchCow I spend way too much of life staring into the face of people like that atari age guy
13:16 πŸ”— jch hah
13:16 πŸ”— jch he's made some pretty solid ragtime arrangements
13:19 πŸ”— SketchCow http://ia600509.us.archive.org/5/items/SWAVALANCHE/Avalanche.jpg
13:19 πŸ”— SketchCow Woah, $159.00 shareware CD
13:19 πŸ”— jch Haha!
13:22 πŸ”— jch Look at this man sight-read video game music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LrelS09BMc
13:24 πŸ”— SketchCow Discovered tom Brier, did you
13:24 πŸ”— SketchCow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcZroW6fGcA
13:25 πŸ”— SketchCow That's the one to watch
13:25 πŸ”— SketchCow He plays it twice
13:25 πŸ”— jch I've been with him from the start ;)
13:25 πŸ”— jch I was suckered into Keeper1st's videos by this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4PvHmqvQko
13:25 πŸ”— jch Not brier, still good ;)
13:26 πŸ”— jch This is improv
13:26 πŸ”— SketchCow Whats critical is 1:54
13:26 πŸ”— jch in the animaniacs one?
13:26 πŸ”— SketchCow Yeah
13:26 πŸ”— SketchCow When he on the fly rearranges it
13:27 πŸ”— jch I don't really have any emotional attachment to Animaniacs
13:27 πŸ”— jch Ok, that is pretty awesome.
13:27 πŸ”— SketchCow Because he's pissed the guy added optional cues for a flute
13:27 πŸ”— SketchCow so he integrates the flute
13:27 πŸ”— jch the guy being the atari guy I linked earlier
13:29 πŸ”— SketchCow I can't wait to see what's in the $159 shareware avalanche. Almost done downloading, then I'll mount and extract.
13:33 πŸ”— SketchCow Surprise, Surprise, it's more of the same
13:37 πŸ”— SketchCow Fucking damnit, another corrupt one.
13:37 πŸ”— SketchCow What a shitty, shitty job this was.
13:38 πŸ”— SketchCow I've now sent out a message asking for the original CDs, hopefully buried somewere in a storage locker at archive.org's locations.
13:44 πŸ”— SketchCow I don't like how many of the 77 CDs I have to make dark.
13:44 πŸ”— SketchCow It's going to be, like, 20.
13:50 πŸ”— SketchCow Can't take it. Going to upload 118gb of CDs to the site to make up for these lame-ass dead ones.
13:55 πŸ”— jch how seriously does archive.org take copyright?
13:55 πŸ”— jch I know you're entitled to psas shareware around to all of your friends, so that's not really a concern
13:55 πŸ”— jch but otherwise...
14:00 πŸ”— Wyatt I wish Ron would upload more of Tom's sight-reading, but he's been pretty mum lately.
14:07 πŸ”— tev To be honest, I've personally never found the reliability of optical media in general particularly stellar, either.
14:12 πŸ”— Wyatt That's pretty much true. I saw something recently about old Playstation discs deteriorating, even. (Not sure on the veracity of that, but I'd not be surprised in the slightest.)
14:13 πŸ”— tev Though my DVD±Rs still seem to hold up okay once I managed to find a halfway decent burner (I definitely keep at least some DVDisaster ECC images around just in case, though)
14:14 πŸ”— tev And even when the media itself is reliable, they seem to get too scratched up way too easily with frequent use no matter how careful you try to be (at least, in my case) because of the ridiculously soft clear plastic layer. :P
14:37 πŸ”— jch JSTOR torrent: 1.8MB/s down, 6.4MB/s up
14:37 πŸ”— jch So far I
14:37 πŸ”— jch So far I've pushed 55GB
14:37 πŸ”— SketchCow I won't discuss archive.org like I'm representative of them.
14:38 πŸ”— jch Who are you talking to?
14:38 πŸ”— SketchCow Everyone
14:38 πŸ”— jch ok, i guess
14:38 πŸ”— SketchCow JSTOR_01_PhilTrans
14:38 πŸ”— SketchCow done 33259.3 MB Rate: 3231.2 / 0.0 KB Uploaded: 25374.2 MB [ R: 0.76]
14:38 πŸ”— SketchCow Hooray
14:39 πŸ”— jch Wow, your ratio is <1 on a piratebay torrent
14:40 πŸ”— sep332 sketchcow: "I just work here" http://www.flickr.com/photos/textfiles/5659199357/
14:41 πŸ”— sep332 :P
14:42 πŸ”— Cowering I must be losing my mind.. what is the key/menu option to save entire webpage as jpg in firefox?
14:42 πŸ”— DFJustin there isn't one, some third-party screenshot tools can do that though
14:42 πŸ”— Cameron_D there is an addon called abduction (I think)
14:43 πŸ”— Cowering ah.. i must have had one before i installed ff5
14:44 πŸ”— Cowering had to install 'lightshot' as it was the only ff5 compat one on launch day
14:44 πŸ”— Cowering and it can't do whole pages, just rectangles on screen
14:50 πŸ”— Cowering thanks Cameron_D, abduction works ok
15:09 πŸ”— SketchCow JF - Proceedings of the Royal Society of London (1854-1905)
15:09 πŸ”— SketchCow SP - 356
15:09 πŸ”— SketchCow T1 - Thermo-Electric Properties of Salt Solutions
15:09 πŸ”— SketchCow TY - JOUR
15:09 πŸ”— SketchCow VL - 55
15:09 πŸ”— SketchCow EP - 373
15:09 πŸ”— SketchCow PY - 1894/01/01/
15:09 πŸ”— SketchCow UR - http://dx.doi.org/10.1098/rspl.1894.0053
15:09 πŸ”— SketchCow M3 - doi:10.1098/rspl.1894.0053
15:09 πŸ”— SketchCow AU - Emery, G.
15:10 πŸ”— SketchCow or
15:10 πŸ”— SketchCow JF - Proceedings of the Royal Society of London. Series A, Containing Papers of a Mathematical and Physical Character (1905-1934)
15:10 πŸ”— SketchCow T1 - On the Electricity of Rain and Its Origin in Thunderstorms
15:10 πŸ”— SketchCow TY - JOUR
15:10 πŸ”— SketchCow VL - 82
15:10 πŸ”— SketchCow IS - 553
15:10 πŸ”— SketchCow SP - 169
15:10 πŸ”— SketchCow EP - 172
15:10 πŸ”— SketchCow PY - 1909/05/06/
15:10 πŸ”— SketchCow UR - http://dx.doi.org/10.1098/rspa.1909.0020
15:10 πŸ”— SketchCow M3 - doi:10.1098/rspa.1909.0020
15:10 πŸ”— SketchCow AU - Simpson, G.
15:10 πŸ”— SketchCow ER -
15:10 πŸ”— SketchCow So that's the format.
15:26 πŸ”— Nemo_bis I'm trying to prepare http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6554331/Papers_from_Philosophical_Transactions_of_the_Royal_Society__fro for upload to IA
15:26 πŸ”— SketchCow Don't.
15:26 πŸ”— SketchCow I'm on that
15:26 πŸ”— Nemo_bis ah ok
15:26 πŸ”— Nemo_bis Are you removing watermark?
15:27 πŸ”— SketchCow We're stewing on the thing
15:27 πŸ”— Nemo_bis looks like greg wrote a script for that
15:27 πŸ”— SketchCow Did he, where is it?
15:27 πŸ”— Nemo_bis no idea, he said so on #wikimedia at FreeNode some hours ago
15:28 πŸ”— SketchCow Wait a minute.
15:28 πŸ”— Nemo_bis ok
15:28 πŸ”— SketchCow Greg Maxwell......
15:29 πŸ”— SketchCow Oh yes, now I remember.
15:29 πŸ”— SketchCow One of the worst of the worst with wikipedia
15:29 πŸ”— SketchCow OK, anyway.
15:29 πŸ”— Nemo_bis ...
15:30 πŸ”— Nemo_bis <gmaxwell> If someone is interested in doing that, they should strip the JSTOR watermarking and djvu them, it roughly halves their size. I've got script to do this, I don't remember how well they work.
15:30 πŸ”— SketchCow so I've unpacked the papers and stored them temporary
15:30 πŸ”— SketchCow http://cdmirror.textfiles.com/JSTOR_01_PhilTrans
15:30 πŸ”— SketchCow So anyone who wants to see, and is curious.
15:31 πŸ”— Nemo_bis What fields are you using?
15:31 πŸ”— Nemo_bis I thought something like http://p.defau.lt/?bH1gxEERT0OowEBqoST0Gg
15:34 πŸ”— SketchCow I'm going downstairs, BUT
15:34 πŸ”— SketchCow - I am unpacking the collection
15:34 πŸ”— SketchCow - I have suggested this to my bosses
15:35 πŸ”— SketchCow - If I end up getting no pushback, I'll work with a few of you to make a thing
15:35 πŸ”— SketchCow - I have direct admin s3 access. if I do it, it'll all be up within a day.
15:35 πŸ”— SketchCow All gabillion papers
15:35 πŸ”— Nemo_bis yep
15:35 πŸ”— SketchCow So let me let them wake up and see what happens
15:35 πŸ”— SketchCow Meanwhile I am making a staging area for hundreds of CD-ROM ISOs
15:35 πŸ”— SketchCow And THOSE are going up
15:37 πŸ”— SketchCow This is about 18,000 papers, by the way.
15:37 πŸ”— Cowering heh heh.. got an archive of all AOL disks/cds?
15:37 πŸ”— Cowering I probably do
15:38 πŸ”— Cowering all the way back to QuantumLink
15:41 πŸ”— Cowering why does archive.org even bother showing things like this : http://web.archive.org/web/20090303154356/http://quantumlink.tk/ ? It just gets your hopes up that something useful was saved
16:03 πŸ”— ersi Hah, I thought gmaxwell looked familar
16:10 πŸ”— jch ersi: who is he
16:18 πŸ”— ersi jch: the guy who made the torrent you linked
16:18 πŸ”— jch ah, I knew that
17:16 πŸ”— emijrp i came here to post this https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6554331/ but jason has it on his galactic-server
17:26 πŸ”— ersi http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/07/21/1632244/Wolfram-Launches-Computational-Document-Format
17:28 πŸ”— emijrp IN THE NEWS: PDF FORMAT IS DEAD.
17:33 πŸ”— Nemo_bis SketchCow, <gmaxwell> Nemo_bis: fair warning, some of the metadata has some HTML crap in it. I didn't catch it previously.
17:38 πŸ”— Tatsujin awesome torrent emijrp
17:50 πŸ”— emijrp hi MarkDille
17:51 πŸ”— emijrp urlteam torrent is slow, trapped in 48%
17:54 πŸ”— emijrp gmaxwell is the wikipedia guy Nemo_bis ?
17:56 πŸ”— emijrp http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/07/more-wood-behind-fewer-arrows.html
17:57 πŸ”— Coderjoe [Jul 21 11 11:28] <SketchCow> Greg Maxwell......
17:57 πŸ”— Coderjoe [Jul 21 11 11:29] <SketchCow> Oh yes, now I remember.
17:57 πŸ”— Coderjoe [Jul 21 11 11:29] <SketchCow> One of the worst of the worst with wikipedia
17:57 πŸ”— MarkDille Hello emijrp
17:58 πŸ”— emijrp HAHAHAHAHAHA WIKIPEDIANS ARE INVADING ARCHIVE TEAM. I GUESS JASON SCOTT Y HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
17:58 πŸ”— emijrp MarkDille is a wiki guy too
17:58 πŸ”— emijrp and Nemo_bis
17:58 πŸ”— emijrp and me
17:59 πŸ”— Aranje lulz
18:03 πŸ”— Nemo_bis greg is more than a wikipedian
18:04 πŸ”— Nemo_bis he does a lot of things in Wikimedia
18:05 πŸ”— MarkDille Who is Greg?
18:05 πŸ”— Nemo_bis http://toolserver.org/~pathoschild/stalktoy/?target=gmaxwell
18:06 πŸ”— emijrp > IIRC, it Greg Maxwell who had (some of?) the images that the
18:06 πŸ”— emijrp John wrote:
18:06 πŸ”— emijrp > Foundation lost when a bug was rolled into production.
18:06 πŸ”— emijrp Yes. He has a partial copy of the images.
18:06 πŸ”— MarkDille And I wouldn't call me a Wikipedian - I watched Wikipedia and Wikimedia grow up. :-) I am a plain ole WikiGuy :-)
18:07 πŸ”— MarkDille eww. I like that toolserver link
18:07 πŸ”— MarkDille thanks Nemo_bis
18:07 πŸ”— Nemo_bis thank pathos :-p
18:07 πŸ”— MarkDille thanks pathos
18:08 πŸ”— Nemo_bis :-D
18:08 πŸ”— MarkDille :-D
18:10 πŸ”— emijrp wikiindex migration finished?
18:15 πŸ”— SketchCow There's Wikipedians and there's people who work with Wikipedia
18:15 πŸ”— SketchCow Difference.
18:16 πŸ”— Nemo_bis And there's Wikimedians.
18:16 πŸ”— SketchCow I put them under wikipedians
18:16 πŸ”— Nemo_bis noooooooooooo
18:16 πŸ”— SketchCow Ha ha, do not care about self-identification.
18:16 πŸ”— Nemo_bis It's plainly wrong.
18:17 πŸ”— SketchCow Nope, care not coming
18:17 πŸ”— SketchCow nggggggghhhhhh
18:17 πŸ”— SketchCow I'm out, can't find the care
18:17 πŸ”— SketchCow Anyway, I have to go run a panel right now, I just was stopping in for a specific statement.
18:17 πŸ”— Nemo_bis http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedian btw
18:18 πŸ”— SketchCow Whoever twittered the URL to my private unpacking of the Gmaxwell Rip: You were stupid. Don't do that again.
18:18 πŸ”— SketchCow I was putting it somewhere for archive team members to mull/plan from without them needing to get a 33gb torrent to investigate themselves.
18:18 πŸ”— SketchCow I know it was twittered privately, but then your little friends started twittering it publically
18:18 πŸ”— SketchCow So now it is gone
18:21 πŸ”— SketchCow ..
18:22 πŸ”— SketchCow Now, maybe this is a bit subtle, but as for the thing about wikipedians and wikipedia, my dislike how the environment encourages a certain type of personality to flourish that is normally shot and left in some closet in a flophouse.
18:22 πŸ”— SketchCow But they are not the majority, the brilliance is that it sneaks people with actual good skills and outlook and abilities to contribute.
18:24 πŸ”— SketchCow So maybe that's subtle, but whatever. So there's a set of personalities from the last, what, 8 years I've been on Wikipedia, and GMaxwell is one of them.
18:24 πŸ”— SketchCow But let me be clear: The skillset that emijrp and others have brought to the archiveteam wiki have really made that shine, and I really appreciate it.
18:26 πŸ”— SketchCow The HTML is trivial to edit out, by the way
18:29 πŸ”— SketchCow Also, shit's getting real with Friendster.
18:29 πŸ”— SketchCow Lots of packs of data coming in.
18:32 πŸ”— SketchCow Ersi's is now transferring over.
18:32 πŸ”— SketchCow We're well past a few terabytes
18:33 πŸ”— ersi Yay
18:36 πŸ”— Nemo_bis sorry SketchCow, my fault :-(
18:36 πŸ”— * Nemo_bis slaps himself
18:41 πŸ”— emijrp any news from shoutwikis Nemo_bis ?
18:43 πŸ”— Nemo_bis hm, no
18:43 πŸ”— Nemo_bis We should start downloading them, I suppose
18:43 πŸ”— Nemo_bis How many for each person?
18:43 πŸ”— emijrp All. For you.
18:43 πŸ”— Nemo_bis Ah ok. :-D
18:44 πŸ”— Nemo_bis lol
18:44 πŸ”— Nemo_bis How many in parallel, then?
18:45 πŸ”— emijrp 1.
18:45 πŸ”— emijrp They are tiny.
18:46 πŸ”— emijrp I did some stats (100 random wikis) and most of them were almost empty.
18:46 πŸ”— Nemo_bis aww, only 1 is boring
18:46 πŸ”— emijrp list is here http://code.google.com/p/wikiteam/source/browse/trunk/listsofwikis/shoutwiki.com
18:46 πŸ”— emijrp be nice with servers, not emergency by now
18:47 πŸ”— Nemo_bis not until we kill them :-p
18:47 πŸ”— emijrp we may offer single 7z for every dumpand a global dump with the entire shoutwiki
18:48 πŸ”— Nemo_bis yes, 7z and then tar
18:48 πŸ”— Nemo_bis A single item on archive.org
18:48 πŸ”— Nemo_bis then access single 7z with tar.php
18:49 πŸ”— emijrp not sure, to IA you can upload trivially (it is automatic)
18:49 πŸ”— emijrp but do what you want
18:49 πŸ”— Nemo_bis I know, why the tar then?
18:49 πŸ”— emijrp i mean a bunch of files in the same item
18:49 πŸ”— Nemo_bis It depends how big they are
18:49 πŸ”— emijrp ok, we will see
18:49 πŸ”— Nemo_bis But these are going to be tiny
18:52 πŸ”— emijrp man, shoutwiki is slow
18:53 πŸ”— emijrp you DoSed them?
18:53 πŸ”— emijrp : P
18:53 πŸ”— emijrp SPAM MOMENT COURTESY BY EMIJRP: #WIKITEAM
18:58 πŸ”— sep332 Is gmaxell's stash on IA yet?
18:58 πŸ”— sep332 *gmaxwell
19:02 πŸ”— db48x2 was just wondering the same thing
19:03 πŸ”— emijrp lul
19:04 πŸ”— emijrp gmaxwell has a rsync of all wikipedia images too
19:04 πŸ”— emijrp that guy has some interesting stuff
19:05 πŸ”— Nemo_bis only Wikipedia?
19:05 πŸ”— emijrp wikimedia commons, i wrote that for non-wikipedia-geeks
19:07 πŸ”— emijrp wikiteam is going to develop a similar script, but to pack images using date
19:07 πŸ”— emijrp uploaded images in 2005-01-01, and so on...
19:07 πŸ”— Nemo_bis yes
19:07 πŸ”— emijrp currently, about 6 GB are uploaded every day
19:08 πŸ”— emijrp so, we catch from old dates, that is 'stable' content
19:08 πŸ”— emijrp newer ones may contain copyvios
19:08 πŸ”— db48x2 ah, so you'll never have to update your torrents, just issue new ones
19:09 πŸ”— emijrp db48x: yep, it is better
19:09 πŸ”— emijrp although not sure if torrent or only IA items
19:10 πŸ”— emijrp i saw a website which generates webseed using IA, i think
19:16 πŸ”— db48x2 cool
19:22 πŸ”— Nemo_bis emijrp, will you do it from Toolserver?
19:38 πŸ”— emijrp upload to IA? i dunno
19:38 πŸ”— emijrp toolserver has only 1-2tb free
19:40 πŸ”— emijrp 365 days * 6 GB = 2 TB
20:27 πŸ”— emijrp hahaha, read this http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Disaster_Recovery
21:21 πŸ”— SketchCow Back
21:21 πŸ”— SketchCow Ok, so, after some informal discussion, I'm not putting that torrent on IA.
21:21 πŸ”— SketchCow However, obviously one of you fuckers can, if you're so inclined.
21:22 πŸ”— SketchCow I can certainly give education to someone about ways it could happen
21:25 πŸ”— db48x2 heh
21:27 πŸ”— RedType SketchCow: Doesn't get stuff done to get stuff done.
21:30 πŸ”— SketchCow Is that even english
21:30 πŸ”— db48x2 the words are all individually well-formed
21:33 πŸ”— yipdw works if you remove the :
21:40 πŸ”— Nemo_bis SketchCow, can you help me to create a well-formed metadata.csv for the bulk uploader?
21:40 πŸ”— Nemo_bis http://p.defau.lt/?On1cdi8BZpJPb8HVvRvoewp
21:40 πŸ”— Nemo_bis (This is what I though of as a format.)
21:52 πŸ”— SketchCow I didn't see it.
21:52 πŸ”— SketchCow There's basically two ways to do this.
21:52 πŸ”— SketchCow I look at the metadata, and I feel it can be combined into a description, in most ways.
23:34 πŸ”— bbot_ 0.5% done on the JSTOR torrent
23:34 πŸ”— bbot_ downloading at 100kilobytes/s, uploading at 1.5megabytes/s
23:34 πŸ”— bbot_ oh those zany torrents

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