#archiveteam 2011-07-28,Thu

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00:45 🔗 Tatsujin http://www.extremetech.com/computing/91202-ms-dos-is-30-years-old-today
01:00 🔗 dashcloud for copying floppies, should that be done in linux or windows?
02:33 🔗 DFJustin if you do it in windows just make sure you write-protect the disk first
02:43 🔗 underscor ^
03:04 🔗 soup http://hostilemachines.com/coax-they_where.mp3 my tune
03:17 🔗 dashcloud so what programs do you use when copying doesn't go as planned?
03:47 🔗 Coderjoe hmm
03:47 🔗 Coderjoe my kryoflux has some sloppy solder on the bottom by the floppy connector
03:50 🔗 Coderjoe in this case it may not matter, as the pins being bridged are probably ground. (still checking)
03:52 🔗 Coderjoe yep ground. not a problem, then
04:53 🔗 Coderjoe woohoo
04:54 🔗 Coderjoe playing some battlechess I read off a 3.5" disk
04:54 🔗 Coderjoe the 5.25" disks didn't read well. not sure if it is the drive or the disks
05:18 🔗 Coderjoe links386pro... "1.44mg"
05:26 🔗 SketchCow BACK
06:05 🔗 SketchCow http://i.imgur.com/ml1qL.jpg
06:05 🔗 SketchCow I... don't even...
07:19 🔗 * Coderjoe dusts off an old floppy drive from his at&t pc3600 that he's now glad he didn't dismantle (the drive. the pc is all ripped apart)
07:21 🔗 Coderjoe hmm
07:24 🔗 Coderjoe except it does not seem to want to work
08:27 🔗 Wyatt Hey SketchCow, didn't you have something written up on textfiles about good practice for cold-calling/emailing people? If so, happen to remember the title of that post?
08:27 🔗 SketchCow God, no
08:29 🔗 Wyatt Ah, my bad then.
08:58 🔗 Coderjoe oh. the 1.2mb drive works fine for DSDD, if I tell dtc to double-step
09:36 🔗 jch Cold-calling <3
09:36 🔗 Ymgve anyone feel like seeding that news of the world torrent?
09:36 🔗 jch has the mails been dropped?
09:37 🔗 jch have*
09:37 🔗 Ymgve no, only a mirror of their website
09:37 🔗 jch aha
09:37 🔗 Ymgve that someone here made
10:23 🔗 Wyatt Huh, Novacut has 40 hours to get $400 on Kickstarter? Pretty awesome odds, those.
10:33 🔗 Coderjoe mmm
10:33 🔗 Coderjoe Barren Realms Elite v0.900
10:38 🔗 ersi http://dataliberation.blogspot.com/2011/07/when-we-started-data-liberation-front.html
11:24 🔗 underscor Ymgve: Do you have a link?
11:24 🔗 underscor I can seed it
11:30 🔗 Ymgve http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6552595
11:47 🔗 Nemo_bis 7000 items in IA item deriver queue :-O
11:47 🔗 Nemo_bis http://www.archive.org/details/widecrawl 504 Gateway Time-out
12:04 🔗 Nemo_bis SketchCow, what's your script to create image previews? I'd like to do something similar for images of archived wikis
12:08 🔗 jch i'd use imagemagick
12:08 🔗 Spirit_ yeah, was just going to say.what is the goal?
12:09 🔗 jch something like: $ convert IMAGE.jpg -sample 100x IMAGE_RESIZED.jpg
12:09 🔗 jch that resizes the image to 100 px wide, keeping correct proportions
12:09 🔗 Spirit_ i always use -geometry
12:09 🔗 Spirit_ man page time
12:09 🔗 Spirit_ man page is sparse
12:10 🔗 Spirit_ real world test time
12:10 🔗 jch :P
12:11 🔗 Spirit_ geometry does sexy resampling, sample is hard and sharp
12:12 🔗 Spirit_ and 2x faster
12:14 🔗 Spirit_ http://altdevblogaday.com/2011/07/27/coding-music/
12:22 🔗 jch Oh?
12:22 🔗 jch Didn't know that, thanks
12:37 🔗 bbot_ Nemo_bis: https://github.com/bbot/sitetools/blob/master/thumbnailer.sh
12:37 🔗 makara anyone for a divination?
12:37 🔗 bbot_ this is thumbnailer. it nails thumbs.
12:38 🔗 bbot_ I stole all the error handling boilerplate from jason, by the way
14:07 🔗 Spirit_ http://bitzi.com/bitpedia/
14:39 🔗 Tatsujin http://awesome.commodore.me/triads-25th-birthday-4450
14:42 🔗 DFJustin :( http://www.triad.se/robots.txt
14:53 🔗 ersi Hah! I thought I recognized Jason in Viva Amiga documentary trailer
14:53 🔗 ersi and it was
15:20 🔗 Spirit_ anyone know off hand how to make find only list files, no directories? i just want to know the number of files in a directory (and subdirs)
15:23 🔗 swebb1 find . -type f | wc -l
15:23 🔗 Spirit_ <3
15:39 🔗 SketchCow My script for doing image previews is ImageMagick
15:39 🔗 SketchCow I.e. Montage
15:42 🔗 SketchCow I downloaded that News of the World
15:44 🔗 SketchCow Let me get it up to archive.org.
16:07 🔗 SketchCow Thanks for reminding me. New of the World will be up there in about 10 minutes.
16:37 🔗 SketchCow http://www.archive.org/details/2011-NewsOfTheWorld-Website-Final
16:42 🔗 underscor Nemo_bis: That's partly my fault
16:53 🔗 SketchCow http://www.archive.org/details/philtrans03307327
16:53 🔗 SketchCow I just want to learn about my fairy rings
16:59 🔗 underscor SketchCow: Do you know why the derive queue is full out its ass?
17:05 🔗 SketchCow #1. You choked it like a whore on her first night
17:06 🔗 SketchCow #2. Sometimes there are a bunch of other derives going on, if they start to take too long, it holds stuff off.
17:06 🔗 SketchCow It'll work it out, this happens.
17:06 🔗 underscor Okay
17:06 🔗 SketchCow When the entire Google Patent database/site came in, for example.
17:06 🔗 underscor We did break the yearly record though
17:06 🔗 underscor :D
17:06 🔗 underscor I didn't realize it was better to specify a delay for uploads
17:06 🔗 underscor I mean, they're just a few jpegs ;D
17:08 🔗 SketchCow A million or so.
17:08 🔗 underscor Hahaha
17:08 🔗 SketchCow Stuff is still showing up, I wouldn't worry about it.
17:09 🔗 underscor Well, at least I got everything moved to the batcave, so once the queue does clear out, starting uploading again will be easy
17:14 🔗 Nemo_bis Who cares about the queue .-p
17:14 🔗 Nemo_bis At least we're sure the servers won't lazy
17:16 🔗 SketchCow I just want my fairy rings
17:16 🔗 Nemo_bis so, underscor, you finished the conversion?
17:17 🔗 Nemo_bis I see that undersco2 writes us from an archive.org domain :-)
17:20 🔗 undersco2 Nemo_bis: Actually, there are 297 left to convert
17:20 🔗 undersco2 And yes :)
17:21 🔗 Nemo_bis good, only 297 :-D
17:21 🔗 Nemo_bis ie 12000 s on average
17:22 🔗 undersco2 12000s?
17:23 🔗 Nemo_bis you said 40 s per article
17:26 🔗 undersco2 Oh, yeah
17:26 🔗 undersco2 Sorry, I misread that as something besides seconds
18:15 🔗 chronomex good morning folks
18:15 🔗 Frigolit ohai
18:52 🔗 SketchCow Still looking for archiveteam pictures!
18:53 🔗 swebb1 What kind of pictures?
18:53 🔗 jch AND STAY OUT.
18:53 🔗 jch (will unban in an hour or so)
18:53 🔗 jch He's a repeat offender though
19:03 🔗 underscor SketchCow: Should I send you a photo?
19:06 🔗 Tatsujin best homepage *ever* http://web.archive.org/web/20021010030911/http://hongkong.ath.cx/
19:18 🔗 chronomex wat
19:29 🔗 CowerAway sadly, wayback machine didn't think to grab the jpgs on that site
19:32 🔗 ersi it grabbed one
19:34 🔗 CowerAway in the pics/ folder?
19:34 🔗 ersi no
19:34 🔗 CowerAway http://web.archive.org/web/20021010030911/http://hongkong.ath.cx/pics/
19:34 🔗 CowerAway nothing there
19:34 🔗 ersi it grabbed one image on the site still though
19:35 🔗 CowerAway i have very poor luck with wayback.. but i realize it does not crawl ancient .zip files
19:45 🔗 ersi sure, it could grab a lot more data
19:45 🔗 ersi or could have
19:45 🔗 ersi I'm sure that was a tradeoff at the time
19:46 🔗 CowerAway does archive.org bot know 'date of last update', so maybe it crawls the 'most' abandoned sites first?
19:47 🔗 ersi I have no idea
19:47 🔗 CowerAway as in, completely grab the sites that appear static rather than get 1/2 half of a few more things that are not going to die as soon
19:47 🔗 ersi But heritrix is open source
19:48 🔗 ersi http://crawler.archive.org/
19:49 🔗 CowerAway great.. http://webteam.archive.org/confluence/display/Heritrix/Release+Notes+-+1.14.4 is dead
19:49 🔗 CowerAway so much for 'release notes' :)
19:50 🔗 Spirit_ CowerAway: i rescued some old zip files throuhg it
19:51 🔗 Spirit_ they were broken, some byte missing, but they were zip files alright :)
19:51 🔗 Spirit_ iirc there was a very low filesize limit
19:54 🔗 Spirit_ even wrote http://www.quaddicted.com/tips-and-tricks/fixing-zip-downloads-from-archiveorg/
20:09 🔗 balrog hi all :)
20:10 🔗 * balrog wonders if SketchCow will be around anytime soon :)
20:12 🔗 marceloan hi
20:32 🔗 Nemo_bis uh? http://www.archive.org/details/Brelviyat2 http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=uploader%3A%28ahlehaq%40hotmail.com%29
20:32 🔗 Nemo_bis (long derivings)
20:54 🔗 underscor Nemo_bis: What's wrong with them?
20:55 🔗 Nemo_bis they seem suspect
20:59 🔗 underscor I don't see anything wrong, besides that disgusting watermark
21:15 🔗 Nemo_bis underscor, why not more philtrans yet? :-D
21:34 🔗 Coderjoe Nemo_bis: yeah... I'm annoyed by the complete lack of metadata on their items
21:35 🔗 Nemo_bis yay, someone who agrees with me :-)
21:35 🔗 Nemo_bis everything without metadata is horrible
21:35 🔗 Coderjoe i've been terrible about metadata with some of my own crap... bunches of unlabled floppies and tapes
21:35 🔗 Coderjoe unlabeled CDs/DVDs
21:37 🔗 SketchCow Ha ha LOOOOOOOOOOOOVE passive aggressive meandering
21:37 🔗 Coderjoe I also have a bunch of unlabeled HDDs on my desk, full of stuff (the only label being the hdd manufacturer label. I need to make an index DB that I can search to match content to HDD)
21:37 🔗 SketchCow It's called e-mail
21:42 🔗 Coderjoe well, last night I managed to read data from a stack of 5.25" dd floppies (some were ss, most ds), with only 3 problem disks I need to work out
21:43 🔗 SketchCow Excellent
21:43 🔗 Coderjoe the KF even managed to recover data from "bad" sectors by telling it to sample multiple revolutions of the disk
21:44 🔗 Coderjoe I forgot how much I hated 8.3
21:44 🔗 Coderjoe I have several "RENEGADE.ARJ" files. one is actually renegade itself, the others are multi-volume sets of a bunch of utilities
21:49 🔗 SketchCow I found 2 gigabytes of BBS programs I'll be adding to software.bbsdocumentary.com.
22:05 🔗 db48x2 heh
22:09 🔗 db48x2 SketchCow: how were they hiding?
22:09 🔗 SketchCow I have a lot of directories in to-do piles
22:09 🔗 db48x2 ah
22:10 🔗 undersco2 Nemo_bis Because I clogged up the queue
22:10 🔗 db48x2 I thought perhaps you'd found a pile of disks in your couch cushions or something?
22:10 🔗 undersco2 Alexis yelled at me :<
23:06 🔗 dashcloud SketchCow: any recommendations for programs to handle disks that have errors on them? I've used spinrite and winhex before I knew about linux
23:06 🔗 Ymgve dd
23:06 🔗 Ymgve or dd_rescue
23:07 🔗 Ymgve I would never use spinrite unless you've already tried to recover with imaging tools
23:07 🔗 SketchCow ha ha spinrite
23:08 🔗 SketchCow I don't have useful suggestions.
23:33 🔗 SketchCow 18353 2011-07-18 05:15 friendster.124329853.tar.bz2
23:34 🔗 SketchCow I guess the question left for the reader is WHY THE FUCK DID SOMEONE DOWNLOAD A SINGLE FRIENDSTER ACCOUNT AND TAR.BZ2 IT AND UPLOAD IT
23:34 🔗 SketchCow 155217071107 2011-07-21 20:18 friendster.unknown-unknown.tar.gz
23:35 🔗 SketchCow I realize as house mother I shouldn't mind cleaning these up, but damn boys
23:35 🔗 SketchCow -rwxrwxrwx 1 jscott jscott 17072599698 2011-07-21 06:10 6.tar.gz
23:35 🔗 SketchCow -rwxrwxrwx 1 jscott jscott 20129988312 2011-07-21 05:56 4.tar.gz
23:35 🔗 SketchCow -rwxrwxrwx 1 jscott jscott 25094862685 2011-07-21 06:26 8.tar.gz
23:35 🔗 SketchCow -rwxrwxrwx 1 jscott jscott 31006994948 2011-07-21 06:19 7.tar.gz
23:35 🔗 SketchCow -rwxrwxrwx 1 jscott jscott 31534278726 2011-07-21 06:05 5.tar.gz
23:35 🔗 SketchCow -rwxrwxrwx 1 jscott jscott 19680027104 2011-07-21 06:52 9.tar.gz
23:35 🔗 SketchCow Also excellent.
23:35 🔗 SketchCow 7.tar.gz. Take that one to the bank.
23:36 🔗 SketchCow See, basically I have to untar these to stdout, take just the column with userids, then do a sort -u.
23:36 🔗 SketchCow So I can figure out the range, verify it.
23:36 🔗 SketchCow That is a lot of waster processor
23:36 🔗 SketchCow Processor I can be spending on brute-forcing porn site passwords
23:36 🔗 SketchCow Just sayin'
23:36 🔗 dashcloud don't you have GPUs for that?
23:36 🔗 SketchCow If I can't get into milkteens.com until wednesday, it's on your heads
23:42 🔗 Ymgve wait, have you changed your philosophy from archiving the internet to archiving porn?
23:42 🔗 Ymgve now THAT's a lost cause
23:43 🔗 RedType milkteens
23:44 🔗 soultcer Ymgve: Porn is a (rather large) subset of the internet.
23:46 🔗 db48x2 SketchCow: heh, I archived that one one profile too, for the lulz
23:46 🔗 Tatsujin gotta save all the porn , think of your grandchildren and what they will miss.
23:46 🔗 Ymgve eh
23:47 🔗 Ymgve if you've seen one standard porn video, you've seen most
23:47 🔗 RedType Ymgve: the plumber's here
23:47 🔗 Ymgve AND the pizza guy
23:47 🔗 Ymgve and the cable man
23:48 🔗 Ymgve and I can't afford to pay them!
23:48 🔗 RedType Ymgve: Rape Dollars
23:48 🔗 soultcer That's not nice, reducing porn to "Male service person visits, girl answers, they have sex"
23:48 🔗 soultcer There is also "Female service person visits, man answers, they have sex"
23:49 🔗 soultcer Or my favourite: "Female service person vists, girl answers, they have sex"
23:49 🔗 Ymgve nono, first there's a blowjob, THEN there's sex, THEN there's a cumshot over the girl's face
23:51 🔗 soultcer If only video compression could take advantage of the fact that most porn movies follow the same scheme
23:52 🔗 Ymgve I was at a google talk once, they mentioned that if you made a compression algorithm that worked well on cat videos, there would be a job for you
23:52 🔗 dashcloud matroska supports linked chapters- you could take advantage of that

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