#archiveteam 2011-09-04,Sun

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00:02 🔗 Wyatt Now that I look at it in that light, seems fanfiction.net would be a good use case for nginx; lots of static content.
00:05 🔗 Wyatt <META NAME='ROBOTS' CONTENT='NOARCHIVE'> in every page on the third line. I've never seen that before; googling takes you to a suicide pact: http://noarchive.net/
00:06 🔗 chronomex yeah, fanfic writers are big on digital suicide
00:06 🔗 chronomex I dated one for a while
00:06 🔗 chronomex c-r-a-z-y
00:08 🔗 Wyatt Oh, another pact NoLOC.org
00:11 🔗 Wyatt It's amazing how many of these things come out of the woodwork when you look.
00:17 🔗 db48x hrm
00:17 🔗 db48x Downloaded: 1 files, 18K in 0.4s (43.8 KB/s)
00:17 🔗 db48x FINISHED --2011-09-03 17:16:19--
00:17 🔗 db48x Total wall clock time: 2m 5s
00:17 🔗 db48x Converting http/fanfiction.net/index.html... 3-19
00:17 🔗 db48x Converted 1 files in 0.002 seconds.
00:17 🔗 db48x two minutes to download one file, and then it decided not to recurse
00:18 🔗 db48x stupid wget
00:18 🔗 db48x brb, time to shop
00:30 🔗 Wyatt Hmm, seems it's time to get ready for work (read: wear clothes). Week five of migration hell, ho!
00:52 🔗 db48x Wyatt: what are you migrating?
03:44 🔗 Cameron_D Hmm... that noloc.org site....
03:44 🔗 Cameron_D On a scale of 1 to "you're a dick, gtfo", what would you rate me as if I were to save tweets with #noloc
03:49 🔗 db48x heh
03:55 🔗 DFJustin so where am I supposed to upload all these google groups
04:06 🔗 db48x DFJustin: ask SketchCow for a slot
04:23 🔗 underscor Cameron_D: "you're a dick, do it!"
04:23 🔗 underscor :D
04:26 🔗 db48x FAIL
04:30 🔗 db48x Cameron_D: I think you should go for it
04:30 🔗 underscor lol
04:30 🔗 underscor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16896663037&cm_sp=ProductSpotlight-_-96-663-037-_-09032011
04:30 🔗 underscor Wow
04:31 🔗 underscor I didn't know newegg sold stuff like that
04:31 🔗 db48x lol
05:53 🔗 SketchCow aHuzzah
06:19 🔗 db48x lol
06:19 🔗 db48x "Additional problems were encountered from the large number of spiders that had taken up residence inside the disk drive..."
07:19 🔗 Coderjoe probably comes from the desire to not have people take advantage of their works.
07:20 🔗 Coderjoe .. and possibly to be able to delete stuff once they grow up or out of their fandom with the (misguided) idea that that is it
07:21 🔗 Coderjoe and also the mistaken trust that people have that when stuff is uploaded to a server that the server will never shut down
10:25 🔗 Eprillios Hiya all. :-)
10:27 🔗 chronomex ahoy maytee
13:24 🔗 inv DFJustin: I'd like a copy of your google groups. how much data is it?
13:24 🔗 inv did anyone get to mirror the desktop.google.com-thing?
13:32 🔗 inv btw: in response to my question about pipelining support: polipo pipelines outgoing requests. a hack to get pipelining with wget is thus to install polipo and go through that. :)
14:20 🔗 alard inv: I'm downloading desktop.google.com, but it's not going very fast. Google starts blocking you if you go too fast (especially on the /support/ urls, it seems). So if you want to make a second copy: please do.
14:23 🔗 alard As for the Google groups stuff: there's a lot of data, with several people (swebb had ~600GB, I have a few GB, others may too), so for the complete version you'd probably have to wait until SketchCow uploads it to archive.org.
14:29 🔗 inv ok
15:41 🔗 Wyatt db48x: We're migrating hosting companies. 2.5 of them. Simultaneously. Without a plan, as far as I'm able to tell.
15:41 🔗 Wyatt Turns out it's a rather...erm, incestuous business.
15:42 🔗 Wyatt e.g. You don't really get NEW customers, so much as give another company a wad of cash to BUY all of their customers.
15:43 🔗 SketchCow Wow, the best way to ensure I'll pay attention to your letter complaining about cd.textfiles.com is to fill it with whiny complaints.
15:45 🔗 Wyatt Oooh, oooh, a complaint letter!
15:47 🔗 SketchCow Well, this is someone displeased with the level of service of cd.textfiles.com
15:47 🔗 SketchCow Also letting me know he's downloaded everything on there, and how I need to make a torrent.
15:47 🔗 SketchCow You know, because 300gb torrents help people.
15:48 🔗 Wyatt Hmm, displeased with the level of service. Perhaps he should opt for the premium plan?
15:50 🔗 SketchCow Yes.
15:52 🔗 SketchCow I get this stuff a lot.
15:53 🔗 Schbirid sometimes people are blindly asking for torrents because they are so hip and social
15:54 🔗 Wyatt Man, if only there was some way to use their anger energies...
15:54 🔗 SketchCow Oh, you.
15:55 🔗 SketchCow Remember, I follow your twitter.
15:55 🔗 Wyatt I know, I know.
15:56 🔗 Wyatt I won't deny I'd be pretty happy if Parallels and everything they make suddenly just...turned into something decent.
15:57 🔗 SketchCow Oh, I don't know about your complaints about parallels specifically
15:57 🔗 SketchCow I mean about everything.
15:59 🔗 Wyatt Eh? I think I've been pretty positive lately. Well, the payroll agency password thing is seriously offensive to me, true enough
16:03 🔗 SketchCow I'm sure you think that.
16:05 🔗 Wyatt Eh, maybe it comes across poorly. Sorry you've got that impression of me. :(
16:09 🔗 Wyatt Well anyway, I'm off to bed. I have 1Us to build in nine hours. Cheers.
16:11 🔗 lowtekk has anyone gone so far as to start scanning computer shoppers? phone book style
16:16 🔗 lowtekk i've got a fair stack here, but i'd hate to make my first attempt redundant if someone already has
17:03 🔗 SketchCow Nobody's scanned them, but I'd like to first see if we can get a pro scan of those.
17:03 🔗 SketchCow Especially the earlier Stan Veit ones
17:03 🔗 SketchCow Because you'll have to break them, aren't you
17:19 🔗 alard SketchCow: My vkblog-nl-201108 upload has finished, everything is there (on batcave).
17:21 🔗 SketchCow OK.
17:21 🔗 SketchCow I'm a little concerned I cut some stuff off there.
17:21 🔗 SketchCow So when I inject them into the item, let's do one last inventory.
17:22 🔗 alard Okay. I'll check the checksums.
17:25 🔗 * SketchCow is almost off one of the two machines he has to get off of.
17:25 🔗 SketchCow One disk may have gotten sick and died, bad news for star wars forums
17:25 🔗 SketchCow I mean, a TON of star wars forums, except possibly one contributors contribution.
17:27 🔗 SketchCow Phrased wrong
17:27 🔗 SketchCow That's what I get for having 5 conversations at once.
17:27 🔗 SketchCow EXCEPT one person's contribution
17:28 🔗 SketchCow The rest are fine.
19:36 🔗 DFJustin inv: it's about 150gb so it's gonna take a good long time to upload even once
19:37 🔗 DFJustin so if you can hang out until sketchcow can get it on ia that would be better
19:46 🔗 inv sure
21:32 🔗 SketchCow What now.
21:32 🔗 SketchCow Oh, the Google Groups
21:33 🔗 SketchCow Man, I dont know how much I'm going to curate that vs. just slamming it up into a bunch of items.
21:33 🔗 SketchCow Hey, the guy who whined at me got angry I pithily responded.
21:33 🔗 SketchCow I see looooots of gaps in the collection on the main site (no clue about the mirrors). A bunch of 404s, 500s, and some 403s. I can't tell you exactly where yet because i'm still having wget log all the bad links, but I think this is a pretty fair sign that you should probably get a torrent together for these things as it would not only reduce load in the long run but keep an unmolested collection among all interested parties.
21:33 🔗 SketchCow I mention this because I've been raping your bandwidth in an attempt to sift through everything on my own terms... clunky browser interfaces can go suck it. Hoping to hit the jackpot in here and find a several things I've been looking for but can't find anywhere else. In fact, your website is pretty much my last resort for this as I don't appear to have any evidence of those things ever being in my possession anymore and the rest of the internet d
21:33 🔗 SketchCow ---
21:33 🔗 SketchCow Post pithy response:
21:34 🔗 SketchCow Wow, what a kind reply. Let me tell all my friends about this great guy doing this great thing for peopOH WAIT HE'S AN ASSHOLE NEVERMIND
21:34 🔗 SketchCow ---
21:34 🔗 SketchCow Uh oh, someone who talks like that won't be my advocate.
21:50 🔗 Cowering <lowtekk> has anyone gone so far as to start scanning computer shoppers? <- oh god, don't get hit by a rolled up version of a computer shopper. Stan was quite taken back at how large his mag had gotten when I told him it was thicker than my local phone book, and he sent me more than one a year
21:51 🔗 Cowering wonder if i can find the ones i kept because i had put ads in them
22:36 🔗 Coderjoe re: torrents: people want them because they are the cool new thing, not realizing that torrents are really only good for new/popular items, or poosibly older items that don't have some existing server to handle them
22:36 🔗 Coderjoe in general, torrents suck at the long tail. (but then, the long tail sucks for everyone trying to serve it)
22:39 🔗 Ymgve torrents can have webseeds tho
22:39 🔗 Ymgve then you get the best of both worlds
22:39 🔗 Coderjoe I also find (private) torrents handy for uploading large files to a remote server, by putting seeds up on several networks
22:40 🔗 Coderjoe yes, webseed is handy.
22:41 🔗 alard Coderjoe: That's a smart idea. I'm going to remember that.
22:41 🔗 Coderjoe but then you have to have the torrent (tracker at least) and the webseed. the files can't move or you break the torrent's webseed (unless you play with scripts or redirects)
22:44 🔗 Ymgve make a redirect site specifically for web seeds!
22:44 🔗 Ymgve (stop hitting me, SketchCow)
22:53 🔗 SketchCow Computer Shopper is on The List
23:44 🔗 underscor 0 11:43PM:abuie@abuie-dev:/batcave 1221 π du -sh ngrams
23:44 🔗 underscor 769G ngrams
23:44 🔗 underscor Wheee
23:44 🔗 underscor This has been running for a while
23:45 🔗 underscor August 24th
23:45 🔗 underscor Jeez
23:45 🔗 underscor That's a fair amount of time
23:46 🔗 chronomex 10-day du?
23:46 🔗 underscor No
23:46 🔗 underscor 10 day download of ngrams from google
23:46 🔗 underscor Sorry,m should have been clearer
23:46 🔗 closure I have a friend who had a 30 day rm -rf
23:47 🔗 underscor damn
23:47 🔗 underscor That's when you need fastrm
23:47 🔗 underscor and rmdir
23:47 🔗 chronomex fastrm?
23:47 🔗 SketchCow That's when you need umount
23:47 🔗 chronomex ^
23:47 🔗 closure yeah, umount and lvm
23:47 🔗 SketchCow umount and grabbing a cable
23:48 🔗 underscor http://linux.die.net/man/1/fastrm
23:48 🔗 underscor It can be dangerous though
23:48 🔗 underscor Because it's pretty much BATSHIT INSANE LET'S FUCKING REMOVE THIS JOINT
23:49 🔗 underscor as opposed to rm which is like "Shall I remove these files for you, sir?"
23:49 🔗 closure ah, that explains why he said find -rm was faster than rm -r .. because it does most of the same things fastrm does
23:49 🔗 underscor and actually checks to make sure it's not breaking something
23:49 🔗 SketchCow rm is not "shall I remove this file"
23:49 🔗 SketchCow What pussified rm do you use
23:50 🔗 underscor rm is always aliased to rm -i on my machines
23:50 🔗 underscor s/machines/shells/
23:50 🔗 chronomex find / -rm
23:50 🔗 underscor http://tracker.archive.org:8888/ BOY, NOT A LONG QUEUE AT ALL, eh?

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