[09:08] well, i guess that was a rather enjoyable trip [09:32] stupid router [13:17] folks- it appears the retry file keeps writing to itself- did I start it wrong? [13:22] dashcloud: I just ran the whole chunk file again. It seems that the only things in my retry file are the chroot problems, and they don't disappear if you retry. [13:22] ah- that's what's happening here [13:23] so I should just cancel the file then, since it will never end [13:27] Yes, I think so. [13:53] thanks [18:39] balrog: I saw your comments about MobileMe. Have you tried the scripts on the wiki/github? Did they work? [19:03] alard: I looked at them. [19:03] they don't work with Mac.com / iDisk [19:04] The iDisk part of mac.com, or also web.mac.com or homepage.mac.com? [19:04] (or web.me.com) [19:05] umm [19:05] alard: stuff like http://homepage.mac.com/mac_vieuxnez/FileSharing16.html [19:05] wget doesn't work either [19:07] Hmm, yes. But can you download any of those files? I get 'Access denied by access control list.' when I click on the download links. [19:07] huh? that used to work :( [19:07] yeah it fails [19:08] well I have a local copy [19:08] there's a rare MPW set for Mac on it [19:09] Strange. I also get the idea that the content is the same as on http://public.me.com/USERNAME [19:09] E.g. https://public.me.com/ardeshir and http://homepage.mac.com/ardeshir/FileSharing8.html [19:09] wouldn't surprise me :/ [19:09] though some things indicated otherwise [19:09] yeah that does look like the same [19:10] But that doesn't work for your example: https://public.me.com/mac_vieuxnez [19:11] alard: yeah I have all of it here [19:11] should I tarball and send it someplace? [19:11] I mirrored it Jun 10 [19:11] Although the fact that you get a login screen corresponds nicely with the fact than you can't download anything from homepage.mac.com. [19:11] from this user, at least [19:12] I have all those files though [19:12] I hope you didn't miss that :) [19:12] Well, I'm not particularly interested in this user. :) The question of iDisk being accessible or not is more interesting. [19:13] ahh. [19:13] From a 'we should download mobileme' perspective, that is. [19:13] well, it is going away come June [19:14] Yes. [19:14] as for this user â well I wasn't able to find that old MPW anywhere else [19:15] (MPW is the development software Apple provided for early Mac OS) [19:16] Mac Programmer's Wrokshop, yes? [19:17] yes, indeed [19:17] alard: https://public.me.com/ardeshir allows me to dl [19:17] http://homepage.mac.com equivalent doesn't [19:18] Yeah, so I think that if you archive public.me.com, you also get the iDisk part of homepage.mac.com. [19:18] I guess. [19:19] So that part is solved then. [19:21] homepage.mac.com and web.me.com aren't the same though [19:21] (non-idisk) [19:22] No. But as far as I can see web.mac.com and web.me.com are, and homepage.me.com doesn't exist? [19:24] alard: compare http://homepage.mac.com/mac_vieuxnez/ and http://web.mac.com/mac_vieuxnez/ [19:25] web.me.com is the same as the latter though, yeah [19:25] homepage.mac.com exists but isn't great [19:26] (Sidenote: I updated the wiki with the new conclusion about iDisk.) [19:26] homepage.mac.com is older, I think. [19:26] And therefore more interesting. [19:26] and already partially non-working :( [19:27] Remember, we save shit from burning buildings [19:27] You usually can't grab it all [19:27] well, we can grab it now while most of it is still here [19:27] Yes, so how should we go about that? [19:28] alard: it has to be organized and divided out [19:28] much like the berlios effort [19:28] True, with the added problem that berlios is much more structured. [19:28] There's no list of what's on mac.com/me.com. [19:28] yup, that's the biggest issue [19:28] have to crawl google? [19:28] And we need to get the scripts working. [19:29] Googling is probably necessary. I've been compiling a list of usernames for the past few weeks (off and on, that is). [19:31] I asked the wayback machine for all urls under homepage.mac.com, web.me.com etc. And I'm asking Google. So far that's produced 353.000 usernames. [19:31] not too shabby [19:31] But probably not enough (plus not all of them are valid). [19:32] I discovered an additional problem today: quite a number of homepage.mac sites do not have an index page, but have their content in a subdirectory that's inaccessible from homepage.mac.com/username [19:32] So my list of usernames won't help to get to those. [19:34] ugh. :( [19:34] what about trying .Public? [19:34] What's that? [19:35] wait a minute [19:35] that no longer works [19:35] see http://homepage.mac.com/mac_vieuxnez/ImpeachBush.html for example [19:35] the images are broken [19:36] This site's interesting, their menu has links to the wayback archive version of their own site: http://homepage.mac.com/shanerosenthal/reformationink/ [19:36] I think apple already started phasing it out [19:36] where? [19:38] First two links in the menu (doesn't have anything to do with mac.com, it's just funny). [19:39] ha, interesting [19:39] well, homepage.mac.com needs to be on the priority list :/ [19:41] It doesn't need to get on a list, it needs action! :) [19:42] indeed :) [19:42] well my G5 is ready and waiting ;) [19:52] alard: bbiab [20:29] jwz would like someone to rip http://liquidtelevision.com/ [20:32] jwz? [20:32] That sounds vaguely familiar, like I should know it [20:33] jamie zawinski [20:33] jwz.org [20:57] woah [20:58] this guy has done a fuckton of shit [21:04] jwz? yeah. he's one of the first bloggers. [21:04] "bloggers" [21:16] What part of liquidtelevision? All of it? [21:19] archive, EVERYTHING! [21:23] Because, well, maybe my internet connection has psychic powers, but I don't see why it's so hard to download. [21:24] "get around their DRM"? I can download it with rtmpdump and it just works. (http://www.jwz.org/blog/2011/10/liquid-television/) [21:25] rtmpdump for the win <3 [21:27] Would it be worth downloading? [21:28] look within yourself for the answer, luke [21:28] alard: rtmpdump breaks drm ;) [21:28] what, liquidtelevision is going away? [21:29] nope [21:29] it's not even vaguely an AT kind of project [21:31] It wouldn't take long for a single person to do either [21:31] Go for it if you wish [21:33] the torrent sites probably have it, don't you think? [21:46] alard: You gonna hit it? [21:47] Well, it's a fun excercise. [21:47] alard: what are you referring to, .mac/mobileme? [21:47] The best kind of exercise! :D [21:47] balrog: nah, liquidtv [21:47] oh, nice. [21:47] (exercise without xc, yes :) [21:48] alard: does get_flash_videos support it? [21:48] balrog: I'm not sure.