| Time |
Nickname |
Message |
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09:08
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kin37ik |
well, i guess that was a rather enjoyable trip |
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09:32
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kin37ik |
stupid router |
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13:17
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dashcloud |
folks- it appears the retry file keeps writing to itself- did I start it wrong? |
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13:22
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alard |
dashcloud: I just ran the whole chunk file again. It seems that the only things in my retry file are the chroot problems, and they don't disappear if you retry. |
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13:22
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dashcloud |
ah- that's what's happening here |
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13:23
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dashcloud |
so I should just cancel the file then, since it will never end |
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13:27
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alard |
Yes, I think so. |
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13:53
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dashcloud |
thanks |
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18:39
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alard |
balrog: I saw your comments about MobileMe. Have you tried the scripts on the wiki/github? Did they work? |
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19:03
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balrog |
alard: I looked at them. |
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19:03
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balrog |
they don't work with Mac.com / iDisk |
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19:04
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alard |
The iDisk part of mac.com, or also web.mac.com or homepage.mac.com? |
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19:04
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alard |
(or web.me.com) |
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19:05
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balrog |
umm |
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19:05
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balrog |
alard: stuff like http://homepage.mac.com/mac_vieuxnez/FileSharing16.html |
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19:05
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balrog |
wget doesn't work either |
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19:07
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alard |
Hmm, yes. But can you download any of those files? I get 'Access denied by access control list.' when I click on the download links. |
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19:07
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balrog |
huh? that used to work :( |
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19:07
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balrog |
yeah it fails |
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19:08
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balrog |
well I have a local copy |
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19:08
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balrog |
there's a rare MPW set for Mac on it |
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19:09
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alard |
Strange. I also get the idea that the content is the same as on http://public.me.com/USERNAME |
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19:09
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alard |
E.g. https://public.me.com/ardeshir and http://homepage.mac.com/ardeshir/FileSharing8.html |
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19:09
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balrog |
wouldn't surprise me :/ |
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19:09
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balrog |
though some things indicated otherwise |
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19:09
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balrog |
yeah that does look like the same |
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19:10
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alard |
But that doesn't work for your example: https://public.me.com/mac_vieuxnez |
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19:11
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balrog |
alard: yeah I have all of it here |
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19:11
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balrog |
should I tarball and send it someplace? |
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19:11
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balrog |
I mirrored it Jun 10 |
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19:11
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alard |
Although the fact that you get a login screen corresponds nicely with the fact than you can't download anything from homepage.mac.com. |
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19:11
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balrog |
from this user, at least |
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19:12
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balrog |
I have all those files though |
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19:12
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balrog |
I hope you didn't miss that :) |
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19:12
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alard |
Well, I'm not particularly interested in this user. :) The question of iDisk being accessible or not is more interesting. |
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19:13
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balrog |
ahh. |
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19:13
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alard |
From a 'we should download mobileme' perspective, that is. |
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19:13
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balrog |
well, it is going away come June |
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19:14
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alard |
Yes. |
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19:14
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balrog |
as for this user รขยย well I wasn't able to find that old MPW anywhere else |
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19:15
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balrog |
(MPW is the development software Apple provided for early Mac OS) |
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19:16
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chronomex |
Mac Programmer's Wrokshop, yes? |
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19:17
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balrog |
yes, indeed |
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19:17
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balrog |
alard: https://public.me.com/ardeshir allows me to dl |
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19:17
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balrog |
http://homepage.mac.com equivalent doesn't |
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19:18
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alard |
Yeah, so I think that if you archive public.me.com, you also get the iDisk part of homepage.mac.com. |
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19:18
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balrog |
I guess. |
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19:19
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alard |
So that part is solved then. |
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19:21
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balrog |
homepage.mac.com and web.me.com aren't the same though |
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19:21
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balrog |
(non-idisk) |
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19:22
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alard |
No. But as far as I can see web.mac.com and web.me.com are, and homepage.me.com doesn't exist? |
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19:24
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balrog |
alard: compare http://homepage.mac.com/mac_vieuxnez/ and http://web.mac.com/mac_vieuxnez/ |
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19:25
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balrog |
web.me.com is the same as the latter though, yeah |
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19:25
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balrog |
homepage.mac.com exists but isn't great |
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19:26
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alard |
(Sidenote: I updated the wiki with the new conclusion about iDisk.) |
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19:26
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alard |
homepage.mac.com is older, I think. |
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19:26
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alard |
And therefore more interesting. |
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19:26
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balrog |
and already partially non-working :( |
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19:27
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ersi |
Remember, we save shit from burning buildings |
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19:27
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ersi |
You usually can't grab it all |
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19:27
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balrog |
well, we can grab it now while most of it is still here |
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19:27
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alard |
Yes, so how should we go about that? |
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19:28
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balrog |
alard: it has to be organized and divided out |
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19:28
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balrog |
much like the berlios effort |
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19:28
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alard |
True, with the added problem that berlios is much more structured. |
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19:28
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alard |
There's no list of what's on mac.com/me.com. |
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19:28
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balrog |
yup, that's the biggest issue |
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19:28
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balrog |
have to crawl google? |
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19:28
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alard |
And we need to get the scripts working. |
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19:29
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alard |
Googling is probably necessary. I've been compiling a list of usernames for the past few weeks (off and on, that is). |
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19:31
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alard |
I asked the wayback machine for all urls under homepage.mac.com, web.me.com etc. And I'm asking Google. So far that's produced 353.000 usernames. |
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19:31
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chronomex |
not too shabby |
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19:31
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alard |
But probably not enough (plus not all of them are valid). |
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19:32
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alard |
I discovered an additional problem today: quite a number of homepage.mac sites do not have an index page, but have their content in a subdirectory that's inaccessible from homepage.mac.com/username |
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19:32
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alard |
So my list of usernames won't help to get to those. |
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19:34
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balrog |
ugh. :( |
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19:34
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balrog |
what about trying .Public? |
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19:34
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alard |
What's that? |
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19:35
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balrog |
wait a minute |
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19:35
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balrog |
that no longer works |
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19:35
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balrog |
see http://homepage.mac.com/mac_vieuxnez/ImpeachBush.html for example |
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19:35
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balrog |
the images are broken |
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19:36
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alard |
This site's interesting, their menu has links to the wayback archive version of their own site: http://homepage.mac.com/shanerosenthal/reformationink/ |
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19:36
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balrog |
I think apple already started phasing it out |
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19:36
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balrog |
where? |
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19:38
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alard |
First two links in the menu (doesn't have anything to do with mac.com, it's just funny). |
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19:39
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balrog |
ha, interesting |
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19:39
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balrog |
well, homepage.mac.com needs to be on the priority list :/ |
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19:41
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alard |
It doesn't need to get on a list, it needs action! :) |
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19:42
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balrog |
indeed :) |
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19:42
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|
balrog |
well my G5 is ready and waiting ;) |
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19:52
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balrog |
alard: bbiab |
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20:29
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|
closure |
jwz would like someone to rip http://liquidtelevision.com/ |
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20:32
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|
underscor |
jwz? |
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20:32
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underscor |
That sounds vaguely familiar, like I should know it |
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20:33
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closure |
jamie zawinski |
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20:33
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chronomex |
jwz.org |
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20:57
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underscor |
woah |
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20:58
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|
underscor |
this guy has done a fuckton of shit |
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21:04
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chronomex |
jwz? yeah. he's one of the first bloggers. |
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21:04
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chronomex |
"bloggers" |
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21:16
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alard |
What part of liquidtelevision? All of it? |
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21:19
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ersi |
archive, EVERYTHING! |
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21:23
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alard |
Because, well, maybe my internet connection has psychic powers, but I don't see why it's so hard to download. |
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21:24
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alard |
"get around their DRM"? I can download it with rtmpdump and it just works. (http://www.jwz.org/blog/2011/10/liquid-television/) |
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21:25
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ersi |
rtmpdump for the win <3 |
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21:27
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alard |
Would it be worth downloading? |
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21:28
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bbot_ |
look within yourself for the answer, luke |
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21:28
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balrog |
alard: rtmpdump breaks drm ;) |
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21:28
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balrog |
what, liquidtelevision is going away? |
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21:29
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bbot_ |
nope |
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21:29
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bbot_ |
it's not even vaguely an AT kind of project |
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21:31
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ersi |
It wouldn't take long for a single person to do either |
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21:31
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ersi |
Go for it if you wish |
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21:33
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balrog_ |
the torrent sites probably have it, don't you think? |
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21:46
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underscor |
alard: You gonna hit it? |
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21:47
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alard |
Well, it's a fun excercise. |
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21:47
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balrog |
alard: what are you referring to, .mac/mobileme? |
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21:47
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underscor |
The best kind of exercise! :D |
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21:47
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underscor |
balrog: nah, liquidtv |
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21:47
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balrog |
oh, nice. |
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21:47
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alard |
(exercise without xc, yes :) |
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21:48
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balrog |
alard: does get_flash_videos support it? |
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21:48
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alard |
balrog: I'm not sure. |