[00:40] http://www.euronews.net/news/streaming-live/ [00:41] if anyone wants to grab that [00:57] godane, I have all the systm episodes if you want to torrent them off me [01:12] where is your the torrent? [01:22] i'll give you a link in just a sec [01:27] godane, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4186013/Systm.torrent [01:28] i'm getting better files then in this torrent [01:28] the large ones [01:28] k [01:29] by the way, how are you making the nfo's [01:30] like this: http://pastebin.com/fc1DGd4y [01:30] for each episode right? [01:31] yes [01:31] cool, thanks [02:11] I went mad the last time I tried to archive dead revision3 shows [02:16] there's probably some black magic way to script it [02:18] nah, it's not that [02:18] I was fine with going to each page and downloading by hand [02:18] there's weird little things [02:18] like I think diggreel episode 141 is missing, indigital episode 12 is unclickable, lil internet superstar has no episode 3 [02:19] then foodmob and epicfu have numbering problems [02:19] so you can't tell if the episodes are just gone or if they numbered them wrong [02:19] and then there are shows that only have random-ass formats for no reason [02:19] and then there are the shows that are just gone from the site like geekdrome and notmtv [02:20] it's a pain in the ass the way they structure things [02:20] ah dang, yeah that's some pretty tedious manual stuff [02:21] Famicoman: i have full backup of crankygeeks [02:21] that's pretty cool [02:21] i even got 6 episodes not listed [02:21] I always wanted to get a full commandn because I felt that was going to go under [02:22] but that was when the url was simple to guess [02:23] when I was getting at rev3, I was trying to get full runs of xvids, and then they made a blog post about discontinuing xvid encodes [02:23] so then I had to get full runs of h264 sd and hd [02:24] the first 25 of diggnation was simple [02:24] only mp4 phone version [02:24] and mp3 [02:24] haha, I love that [02:25] are you just going for best quality or what? [02:25] I need to get my stuff sorted and see what's left to snag [02:26] especially those wine shows that look like a pain in the ass [02:26] i'm getting better quality episodes for diggnation after 95 [02:27] HELLO HI [02:27] Famicoman, do you have the descriptions for the shows? [02:28] i have nfo for diggnation [02:28] the first 25 i have to do nfo for [02:28] ok [02:28] only for some I think, I can't remember [02:28] I was trying to get the content first, descriptions later [02:29] gotcha [02:29] i was download episodes one at a time [02:29] so i just copy them desc when there [02:30] hmm, thought I'd have more than 353 GB [02:30] hi SketchCow [02:31] godane, did you manage to find subsystm? [02:31] Famicoman, also: my wd green is working fine, it just takes 45 seconds to recognise >.< [02:31] well that's odd [02:32] ya, I even did a sector by sector diagnostics [02:32] turned up fine [02:32] I have subsystm if you guys need it btw [02:32] I'm currently moving the blackhat archives but I think this card I found is usb 1.1 or something [02:33] so it'll be a while [02:33] ok [02:33] did you still need 2008? [02:33] ALSO [02:33] I might lose power [02:33] high winds [02:33] I cant remember, and okay [02:33] I should probably start back up on that archive though [02:33] was that the one that was about 28gb? [02:34] holdon, I have to switch drives [02:34] 19.8 [02:34] that sounds more right [02:34] I probably need that one, but not right now [02:34] k [02:35] subsystm is not on rev3 but on youtube and google video [02:35] I think I had the rev3 copies [02:35] pat and I have the rev3 copies [02:36] ok [02:36] i only see the first 2 episodes anyway [02:36] i don't know how many was made [02:37] 3 I think [02:37] damnit, I keep getting small brown outs >.< [02:38] I should'a got a dual bay hard drive dock >.< [02:40] I wonder if the episodes on google video are the ones I put there [02:41] lol [02:42] pat, before iptva was on blip and before it was on stage6, a lot of it was on google video [02:42] ya [02:52] Jamendo import's been going without a hitch today [02:52] WHAT THE FUCK [02:53] The gremlins are still on holiday [02:53] Quick! Install a driver! [03:49] Ah, I found it. I basically had only a small portion of the album things running. Others had finished! [03:49] Let's fix that shit RIGHT away and get up to full steam ahead. [03:52] There we go. [03:54] hahaha [03:55] Gah, VM is down again [04:13] Just turned it up to 11 [04:19] shit, why not 13? [04:25] or 133 for that matter [04:29] 1337? [04:29] I'll show myself out [04:29] k [04:34] Any larger projects lately [04:39] BlueMax: ive been slowly downloading ff.net for a few hours [04:40] larger is relative, if u mean larger than the mobil me thing, i havent downloaded that much data in my life up to this point [04:40] 200tb, yeah, good luck with that, SketchCow [04:41] Fair enough lol [04:41] And yeah, what crazy bastard would decide to back up MobileMe [04:42] where's the link for the mobileme project? xD [04:42] and is there a page with info on what's backed up and what hasn't? [04:42] it says here 2% [04:45] awesome 2% [04:45] that's a fuckpile [04:46] 2% of 200TB...4TB? [04:46] Jeez, we're screwed on that one [04:48] SketchCow: how goes Arcade The Documentary? [04:50] It's not until June [04:50] we're kinda waiting until drive prices fall again, hopefully [04:51] Because the archive is running tight [04:51] ish [04:53] Heesh' [04:53] Sounds painful [05:04] BlueMax: Positive. Stay positive. [05:04] Yes sir [05:04] * BlueMax salutes [05:04] Or next speech I give, I use your name [05:04] \o/ [05:04] Go ahead, I'd love my name in lights :D [05:04] :o [05:04] BlueMax: I know, it's an awesome feeling [05:04] :D :D :D :D :D [05:05] underscor: I'm still jealous of you :( [05:07] Although you did deserve it [05:07] That system you built was amazing [05:14] Aw, thanks [05:14] * BlueMax chucks underscor, chronomex and SketchCow a beer [05:15] sweet [05:15] redhook? [05:15] * underscor is under 21 [05:15] Also, you're 16 :P [05:15] how was the 400TB figure estimated? [05:15] Possession is 9/10ths of the law [05:15] BlueMax: remember we have all of 6 months [05:15] 400? [05:15] for mobileme/mac.com [05:16] chronomex: whatever you like baby :D [05:16] underscor: I'm 18 :P [05:16] <3 [05:16] The estimate is 200, and it's based on http://memac.heroku.com/ [05:16] I'm leal here [05:16] *legal [05:16] BlueMax: Oh, I thought you were younger than me for some reason [05:16] BlueMax: you aint sleeping with me, dont call me baby [05:16] underscor: Because I'm immature? :P [05:16] chronomex: Why would I want to :P [05:17] You ain't be dunking Duncan [05:17] ba dum tsch [05:17] BlueMax: oh dunno, i am kind of attractive [05:17] lol [05:17] haha [05:17] if I may say so myself ;) [05:17] ;) [05:17] well, compared to everyone else in that museum photo [05:17] hahahaha [05:17] I get haircuts periodically [05:18] :o [05:18] God damn it [05:18] 9 hours to snc 2TB of data [05:18] THIS IS TAKING TOO LONG [05:18] * BlueMax slaps underscor [05:18] is phat pipe! [05:18] Patience, my son [05:20] Ot [05:20] It's over eSATA [05:20] So it's the limitation of the drives [05:20] :( [05:21] 19! 19 threads! bwa ha ha. [05:22] lol lol lol [05:22] 0! 0 threads! bwa ha oh :( [05:23] damn. rode way past my stop cos i was trolling irc on my mobile #firstworldproblems [05:23] hahah [05:23] * BlueMax is tempted to hurt chronomex for that [05:23] we're just that awesome [05:23] other channel [05:23] Is australia considered first world? [05:23] ;D [05:24] seattle sure as hell is [05:24] Yeah, I know that [05:24] Just poking fun at BlueMax [05:24] scanned a few binders today, didnt have time to rsync out of the bw-poor museum before I left [05:24] Australia sucks [05:24] ooh, cool [05:24] I [05:25] I'm bummed I'm so far away, I'd love to help with that project [05:25] Yeah, visited australia. [05:25] place has 256kbit symmetric [05:25] Petted the wallabies. [05:25] I followed SketchCow around the whole time [05:25] He didn't see me once :D [05:25] Ha, did you really? [05:25] Wouldn't you like to know... he he he [05:25] Oh [05:25] :P [05:25] I kinda want to visit Australia [05:25] No you don't [05:25] It's too hot and full of bogans [05:26] Note [05:26] they dont want to hit the "upgrade" button cos it was made free like 3 phone companies ago and they dont want to pay 15 years of back bills [05:26] "visit" [05:26] not [05:26] How SketchCow survived is unfathomable [05:26] "live there" [05:26] uhhuh. [05:26] That would be a lot of back bills [05:26] I need to find a webos irc client [05:26] so I can stay plugged in on the road! [05:27] webos? [05:27] You on a HP? [05:27] Or was that a Palm? [05:27] Touchpad [05:27] Oh you poor, poor bastard [05:27] Here's a hint: Get Android :P [05:28] I just got a Samsung Galaxy S II for Christmas and I'm loving the damn thing [05:28] Waiting for an iControlPad to come in so I can game on it [05:28] Nah [05:29] (I have both)) [05:29] I actually like webos more than android [05:29] The touchpad is a loner from my school [05:29] It likes being by itself? [05:29] No [05:29] I've never heard anything bad aboutwebos [05:29] Oh [05:29] loaner* [05:29] Or did you mean to say "loaner" [05:29] :P [05:29] trolol [05:29] Pedantic ass [05:29] Webps [05:29] Lucky ass [05:30] Webos's multitasking model is absolutely wonderful [05:32] I've never played around with webos to be honest [05:32] If I had the opportunity to pick up one of those $99 Touchpads I would have [05:47] /dev/sdn1 1.9T 338G 1.5T 19% /media/YV_4 [05:47] 20% in 2 hours [05:47] uggggghhhhhh [05:48] * BlueMax gives underscor something shiny to play with [05:48] :o! [05:49] 21:28:18 < BlueMax> Here's a hint: Get Android :P [05:49] BlueMax: android sucks balls [05:49] chronomex: Does not! :( [05:49] does too [05:49] I use it, I hate it [05:49] Does not! [05:49] I use it, I love it [05:49] Better than iOS at the very least [05:55] Guess what I just found from like february [05:55] I love going though old logs [05:55] yeah [05:55] ok [05:55] so just make a dir for myself? [05:55] * underscor proceeds to upload 6TB of porn [05:55] noooooo [05:55] :D [05:55] You told me you had 8 [05:55] ahahahahaha [05:56] I have 1TB around here somewhere [05:57] of porn? [05:57] noice [05:58] I'm surprised everyone doesn't stream porn these days [05:59] Too expensive [05:59] Cheaper to torrent it from fux0r [05:59] I guessed I've learnt something today [05:59] Plus you can't really stream 1080p porn [05:59] :B [06:00] Why would you want to [06:00] All you can see at that resolution is hair in the ass crack [06:00] I have asscrackhairophilia [06:00] Actually, I have a bunch of 1930-1970s stuff that's great [06:01] you know those people are like 40 and fat and hairy now [06:02] You still like that type anyway chro [06:02] ...chronomex [06:02] hahahahhahah [06:02] Fail press [06:02] chronomex: Actually, they're probably 30 or 35 in these [06:02] so they're like 60 at least now [06:02] if they're even alive [06:06] I love how the coin button on MAME4Droid is so small you can barely hit it >_< [06:07] Makes you wonder what porn stars do when their careers end though [06:14] heh. [06:16] damn. I have to recompress all this shit because archive.org can't take tiled tiffs. [06:26] Aaaa [06:26] Sorry, man. [06:27] recompress + reupload [06:27] good thing I work at a place that's got 10mbit upstream [06:28] figure out how to automate the shit out of it, then let it go all day or something [06:35] 5:29:26 PM - chronomex: figure out how to automate the shit out of it, then let it go all day or something [06:35] I thought that was the ArchiveTeam's second motto [06:36] right [06:36] my pile-of-tiff handling utilities aren't fully automated, but they're getting closer everytime I have to do something boring like this [06:41] gnu parallel is kind of cool [06:41] apt-get install moreutils [06:43] oh wait, xargs can do that too. [06:45] Down to 5 e-mails! [06:46] five! [06:46] that is no mean feat [06:46] Yeah, it'll hopefully be less. [06:46] I was at 20 some months ago, now I'm back up around 80 [06:46] Emails? [06:46] Bear in mind, I have to initiate a couple hundred e-mails for the docs. [06:47] But they'll go into folders and back into folders as I go. [06:48] funny, 3 jobs doesn't fill 2 cores. [06:48] trying 5 ... [06:49] 22:50:23 up 4 days, 10:02, 2 users, load average: 6.93, 5.03, 2.84 [06:49] shityeah [06:49] SketchCow I would like to get an upload slot for the Mobile Me project [06:51] okay, I appear to be IO-limited [06:51] .... on image compression. [06:52] NICE [06:52] this machine is awesome [06:52] is there any coordination for the mobileme project? [06:52] balrog: memac.heroku.com [06:52] ok [06:53] there's a channel somewhere around here too [06:53] are there any illegal chars for folder names, in ext4, or subfolder limist> [06:53] * chronomex fishes around between the irc cushions [06:53] I was at 1.8tb of Jamendo. [06:53] wow. [06:53] Now, there's 431gb of Jamendo. [06:53] bsmith093: '/', '\0' are illegal characters. [06:53] jamendo is? [06:53] good for you, isnt that most of it [06:53] specifically slash zero [06:53] ahh music [06:53] ok [06:54] At this point, I'm slamming through the last sets. [06:54] chronomex: where does this pull data from? [06:54] bsmith093: that's null zero character, very rare in most text. [06:54] There's now threads for every remaining mp3, except the last 900 albums. [06:54] balrog: it is coordinator and tracker, to which the downloader script talks [06:54] chronomex: that maske much more sense, thansk [06:54] Mostly because it's better to have them in groups of 1000 slots. [06:54] ahhhh ok [06:55] im asking because im auto sorting ffnet epubs by author's name and im wondering if there are any ones that the folder naming will choke on [06:56] really only '/' [06:59] I have a new project. [06:59] By the way. [06:59] Whoever wants it. Kid's stuff, almost. [06:59] SketchCow: name it. I want to help. I'm a good kid. [07:00] You are terrible. When the going gets rough you scream like a slug in a salt lick. [07:00] Cute, though. [07:00] * BlueMax :( [07:01] SketchCow: whats the project? [07:01] Basic script, maybe perl or python. Given an archive.org item, it downloads it. Given an archive.org collection, it downloads THAT. [07:01] Into folders, with the items. [07:01] Archive.org automated export. [07:01] Time to bite the hand that feeds me! [07:02] heh [07:02] trust, do not depend [07:02] It's a common criticism - upload to archive.org, but what if something goes wrong. [07:02] So there, here's a way to yank stuff down quickly. [07:02] check out jdownloader is loces archive.org search pages [07:03] I don't want a plugin. I want a script. [07:03] It's not a hard script. [07:03] archive.org isn't resisting anything. [07:03] i give it the search url, it grabs all the pages on it, and then loads them, and sees all the formats [07:03] thats a good base, except its in java :) [07:04] ia-sucker cool-item-name --originals-only [07:40] There we go, threads failing here and there. [07:40] Go boyeeeeeee [07:49] * chronomex dumps shit into the derive queue [07:49] DUMP DUMP DUMP [07:50] SketchCow: how's the queue these days? [07:51] damn, it's full of jason [07:55] Well, that only took 2 weeks of torrenting. [07:55] Now uploading 6.7gb of Galaxy Magazine. [08:01] It IS full of me. [08:01] I'm adding Jamendo on 14 threads or something. [08:02] BRUTAL. [08:03] http://ia700206.us.archive.org/9/items/galaxymagazine-1950-10/Galaxy_1950_10.pdf [08:03] OK quality, no major deal. [08:03] But good to have that last torrent no longer going. [08:03] I'm actually running out of good magazine/publication torrents. [08:03] I think I kind of got them all. [08:04] LOVE surprises though. [08:09] I assume you already have all the major game publications SketchCow [08:09] Everything out of print, in america, somewhat. [08:10] Other countries not so much. And to be honest, I don't see many scans out there. [08:12] http://www.archive.org/details/galaxymagazine [08:14] Oh wow, Fahrenheit 451 originally started in Galaxy? [08:24] SketchCow: It comes to mind, since I've had to search for it before myself: do you have any archives of BYTE Magazine? [08:25] Turns out my school's library did in book format, which was nice, but digitizing those would be cool [08:25] I do [08:25] Byte property's still active. [08:25] Guy's been scanning them, destroying each issue as he goes [08:27] http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/167235-byte-magazine/ [08:30] Kickass. [08:32] He and I don't get along over the whole destroy-the-issues thing, but the stuff is OK. [08:33] I'd obviously rather preserve the issues, but so long as the actual information is preserved, I can't bitch about it. [08:34] Yes, people said that in the 1970s with Microfilm. [08:34] fuck microfilm [08:34] fuck magtape [08:34] paper's all right [08:35] "Often seen in preservation channels, chronomex is a bot that hates microfilm." [08:35] punchcards and paper tape are ok [08:35] I hate small data [08:35] SketchCow: What value do the physical magazines have, beyond the information they contain? Not trying to snark, I'm honestly curious what difference in value you see there. [08:37] if it's a xerox, not a lot. things that were designed and produced with care let you get a feel for what the creators thought of their work [08:37] have you ever used a book? [08:38] Microscopic analysis of fibers [08:38] Ability to examine binding [08:38] smell [08:38] Lack of reliance on terrible scanner technology to capture every page [08:38] the finish of the pages [08:38] Information on page weight [08:38] Watermark info [08:38] Verification of page order [08:39] letterpress is beautiful if done right [08:39] Acceptance for legal cases especially cases reliant on publication date [08:39] there we go [08:39] Availability for further ingention including catscan or other unknown as of yet technologies [08:39] dataloss backup [08:40] Printing ink analysis [08:40] printing press forensics [08:40] Anyway, stuff. [08:40] nah, that shit doesnt really matter [08:41] * chronomex gets back to unstapling && scanning [08:42] I do agree that scans are sufficient to discern how much of a douchebat Jerry Pournelle is [08:43] All makes sense. From that selfish perspective of "goddamn, I wish I didn't have to dig up a print archive when looking for a PAL programmer schematic", I'd take destructive digitization now over nondestructive digitization later. [08:44] But obviously nondestructive digitization now is optimal, and the other options are a short-term vs. long-term tradeoff. [08:47] nondestructive digitization is a moral imperative. [08:48] nondestructive digitization is more difficult and more expensive for many types of media [08:50] here's an aside: i've heard that in general, when the national archives has an item falling apart, they do a maximum-fidelity copy and then destroy the original in order to obviate questions of which is authoritative [08:50] but nobody likes it [08:51] it is a wrong made apparently necessary for legal reasons [08:52] Yeah, I'd never last there. [08:52] nooo..... [08:52] I have a better one. [08:52] As you know, I got my hands in a lot of places, lot of scuttlebutt. [08:53] here have some czech magazines http://www.stahovaniezasms.sk/casopis-elektron-hq_526801 [08:53] I kind of like "nondestructive digitization is a moral imperative." [08:53] There are a number of organizations, big big ones, ones known to be in the preseve biz. [08:53] name names [08:53] And the direct attitude about internet archive is it's a blip, a fad, a short-term dream of a maniac. [08:53] So they're idly sitting by, not buying in, waiting for the day they have to stop by and pick up the pieces. [08:54] Not allowed. [08:55] I like keeping the infoz coming. [08:55] ok, so, like, everyone not listed on donors page [08:55] ha ha [08:55] Good technique [08:55] So, like, Patrick Stewart [08:55] you'll nevah get a daaame from me, you flash in the panss [08:56] the star trek actor guy? [08:56] Yeah [08:56] dinnae ken he was into pres [08:58] He's not. [08:58] I'm making stuff up in that small case. [08:58] 42,843 albums of Jamendo up now. [08:59] http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=collection%3Agalaxymagazine&sort=-publicdate [08:59] Hooray, there they go. [09:03] Beat up little issues, sometimes. But okay for now. [09:03] http://www.archive.org/details/galaxymagazine [09:03] Hope they weren't destroyed! [09:06] Can an out of print 20 years old book of a living author published by a closed publisher be put on IA? [09:08] yes but in violation of copyright [09:10] there's a lot of copyvio on IA :) [09:12] don't break the law [09:12] if you do break the law, don't pull others into it [09:12] if you do pull others in, don't make them know it [09:13] I bought a new microphone. [09:13] Studio Products LSM [09:13] USB mic, but get this... also does XLR [09:13] weird, but good [09:14] http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/674633-REG/Studio_Projects_LSM_BLACK_LSM_Large_Diaphragm_Condenser.html [09:15] I'm recording a podcast tomorrow. [09:15] Or, I should say, assembling a two-part 40 minute soundscape. [09:15] using.... jamendo music, voicemail, and other audio artifacts [09:16] Getting paid for it. Not for the music, of course, CC-NC that it is. I'm getting paid to talk about it. [09:18] links when it goes live? [09:18] I assume so. [09:18] Hey, is 28c3 already up again? [09:19] I just found out they've ALREADY GOT TALKS UP ON YOUTUBE, which is CRAZY [09:19] defcon just announced the same today [09:19] for their conference in AUGUST [09:24] be aware that those are streamdumps, not the official releases [09:24] those will be released later [09:24] so, no need to archive the current videos [09:24] there is usually a mirror network of stream dumps [09:25] official ones will be at http://ftp.ccc.de/congress/28c3/ [09:28] Exactly. [09:28] But I'm still amazed! [09:28] Schbirid: whats the diff between 28c3 and 28C3 they're both valid dirs [09:28] appear to be dupes, but why? [09:28] Also, I just verified, I have something like 3 hours of phreaking voicemails and phone conferences. [09:28] From 1984 up through 2005 [09:29] 3 hours! [09:29] Since they're asking me to make a 40 minute sound collage, I'm feeling pretty good. [09:29] that can't be right [09:29] Yeah, audio.textfiles.com/conferences [09:29] I need to clean that directory up, finally. [09:29] wasn't confcon much longer than that? [09:29] it was a whole afternoon [09:30] at least [09:30] Not counting confcon [09:30] I mean, like, the old style [09:30] oh [09:30] Confcon is essentially a recorded hacker con. [09:30] It had a schedule and a setup [09:30] ok fine [09:31] traditional confs, the anarchy kind [09:31] they still happen regularly on the telephreak voice bridge [09:31] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyNmUmmQ0kI [09:33] there' a talk you gave, Jason, where the audio, through no fault of yours, is just atrocious. sailing the seas of computer history, piracy [09:40] That must be the shmoocon one. [09:41] There's one called You're Stealing it Wrong that's great. [09:48] oh man [09:48] this assembly code is so old that they say "pop" the stack statewrd including the scare quotes [09:49] or maybe they were just too buttondown for that shit [09:56] SketchCow: ive got all your talks saved, and frankly, the audio quality is all over the map [09:56] probably not your fault, but still... [09:59] Where does "but still" get into it? [09:59] You were raped going to your college classes. I mean, not your fault, but still... [09:59] You have a tumor in your neck. Not your fault, but still... [10:00] The language doesn't even scan. [10:00] And now, bed! [10:00] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smack_My_Bitch_Up [10:33] ummm yeah dont know what i was thinking typing that, my bad [10:43] bsmith093: prolly symlinks for compatibility and historic urls [14:58] Nemo_bis: Rule number one of potential copy vio [14:58] Don't discuss said potential. [14:58] :) [14:58] I don't want to upload things IA is not interested in [15:02] IA is interested in all the things [15:32] http://i.imgur.com/Kl4qj.png [16:42] Coderjoe: That's awesome [16:48] http://www.archive.org/details/galaxymagazine [16:49] Morning everyone [17:08] hi, task of archiving youtube is... not feasible [17:08] but what of a youtube index? [17:13] Nemo_bis: at some point in the future the copyright will expire and then the copy is a free and legal artifact :) [17:48] OK, back up. [18:18] I usually save what I watch from Youtube [19:08] Hi everyone, I'm looking for someone who can help with a new project proposal... are any of you active right now? [19:11] maybe ... what do you have in mind? [19:11] im on my phone on the bus to work, fwiw [19:12] @chronomex OK, I'll try to make this quick then :-) [19:13] no rush [19:14] I've already mailed Jason Scott about archiving amateur radio BBSes. There's a system called packet radio that evolved rather parallel with phone based BBSes. He was interested, so I'm now trying to figure out whether to create a project on the archive team wiki or just prepare as much data as I can and ship it to you [19:14] will be sitting here for another 20 minutes anyway [19:14] ok [19:14] hmmmm. [19:14] that sounds like a Jason Scott project more than an Archiveteam project [19:15] I mean, it seems like there are quite a few dormant projects in the wiki, so I assume you don't really have all that much manpower... so I thought I'd try to make it as easy as possible for you [19:15] oh, ok :-) [19:16] sounds good, though [19:16] Would it need to be more Internet-related to become an Archive Team project? [19:18] archiveteam focuses on things that are, um, actively popular [19:18] and major contributors to culture [19:20] ah, I see. So I suppose I'd better organize the data collection myself, then, and just send the collection to Jason Scott in person? [19:20] Jason Scott projects are awesome. [19:21] ... [19:21] Hi, dude, Jason Scott. [19:21] (wouldn't be too much trouble for me, I'm just asking for "proper protocol" reasons) [19:21] chronomex is right - you're assembling a nice package for me to then get into archives both personal and at the main internet archive. [19:21] ah, hi :-) [19:22] *schlurp* [19:22] If you found a wealth of data, too much for one person to possibly handle, then a team might be needed, ESPECIALLY if in danger. [19:22] But this sounds cool [19:22] I'm now negotiating the possible mirroring of github. [19:22] That will need some people. [19:22] Alright, I'll start asking around on my own, then, until I hit a wall [19:22] o_o [19:23] You can certainly point out it's going to a non profit archive with plenty of space. [19:23] If that helps someone be convinced to help contribute. [19:25] I don't think that'll be a problem because packet radio has always been completely open and contents have always been public (due to ham radio licensing laws). The only thing I worry is whether the archive will be properly readable without BBS software to sort stuff into categories and so on, but I'll figure that out. Thanks for your input so far! [19:25] (and have fun with GitHub, that looks like a challenge :-)) [19:25] are there unofficial versions of wget with more features? [19:25] it has a lot of deficiencies [19:25] like what? [19:25] I had to mirror a large part of SourceForge for my diploma thesis, that was... interesting [19:26] no gzip support, no parallel requests [19:26] url filters are limited [19:26] wget+ would be cool [19:26] I don't know of a wget patch repository [19:26] you're certainly free to make your own spider though [19:27] that could be useful [19:28] @sundown I also don't know of other versions (perhaps curl does some of this out of the box, but I don't really use that), but you can get gzipped pages like this: http://bit.ly/rQtMhv [19:30] yeah im aware that you can pipe it to decompress utils [19:30] but recursion wont work [19:30] oh, I see [19:31] curl also lacks recursion [20:00] I'm now negotiating the possible mirroring of github. [20:00] Woah, really?! [20:36] underscor: reading archiveteam.org wiki page on github said that 523785 of public repos are forks [20:36] wow [20:37] are we going to turn the forks into branchs [20:37] underscor: what for? (github mirroring) [20:37] only cause it said it would save space [20:38] I'm good friends with almost everyone that works there [20:38] I dunno, it was just something SketchCow said he was interested in [20:38] if any type of discussion with them would help [20:38] i think a backup of github would be epic [20:38] Ask them if they'll just mail us an HD [20:38] :B [20:40] forks shouldn't be branches though [20:40] forks don't even have to remotely related to eachother [20:40] thats what i thought [20:40] though 95% of the time they are [20:41] talk about ipad and chromebook drm and security on 28c3 saal 1 soon [20:41] What is a saal? [20:42] room [20:42] http://28c3.fem-net.de/ [20:42] ignore the wrapped guy on stage rigt now ;) [21:04] heh [21:34] upload upload upload [21:46] this shit's important: http://www.archive.org/details/KICU_20101122_140000_Cindy_Crawfords_Skin_Secrets [21:47] LOL [22:02] how does a paid programing get on archive.org? [22:02] maybe we should have a paid programming archive.org [22:02] what do you mean? [22:03] i mean put it in a sub collection in tv archive [22:03] archive.org has been archiving television, aggressively, since 1996 [22:05] aw cindy is gone [22:05] what does "paid programming" mean? [22:06] i'm backing up glenn beck off of archive.org [22:07] burning it to dvd [22:07] Also i have 60 episodes of systm backed up