#archiveteam 2012-01-03,Tue

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02:05 🔗 SketchCow Worth a shot, though.
02:05 🔗 yipdw ?
02:07 🔗 SketchCow 15:53 < Schbirid> oh fantastic, i found another source for .plan/finger files http://web.archive.org/web/200102032203/http://www.webdog.org/tracker/newstrack.shtml
02:07 🔗 SketchCow 15:55 < Schbirid> hm, prolly no new ones
02:07 🔗 SketchCow I'm always for experiments.
02:07 🔗 SketchCow Also, I'm still compressing google groups files under the brewster-suggested paradaigm
02:08 🔗 SketchCow I have to move the ones that AREN'T under said paradaigm under it, but I can soon begin doing this work as soon as I write some intro text that will be shoved into each item.
02:08 🔗 SketchCow So it'll be, like, 500 items instead of 4,300 or something stupid.
02:08 🔗 DFJustin seems like the zip-browser link ought to be added to some prominent place automatically
02:14 🔗 SketchCow Well, yes.
02:16 🔗 bsmith093 whats a plan file?
02:17 🔗 DFJustin basically blogs that game developers had back in the day, before blogging was a thing
02:20 🔗 DFJustin iirc they were originally files you could get at with the finger protocol but later they were just web pages
02:20 🔗 Archivist Woooo, mobile irc
02:20 🔗 Archivist (I'm underscor btw)
03:34 🔗 SketchCow That's a good enough description.
03:40 🔗 dnova I have stacks of shareware CDs
03:40 🔗 dnova The Pier, I think
03:40 🔗 dnova you probably have all of it
04:30 🔗 bsmith093 how do i check the age of a process?
04:31 🔗 bbot_ ps aux?
05:29 🔗 undersco2 boy, sure is snowy out here
05:29 🔗 undersco2 (near Cleveland)
05:30 🔗 undersco2 roads are basically a big frictionless surface haha
05:31 🔗 chronomex no snow in seattle
05:33 🔗 dnova snowy here too
05:39 🔗 undersco2 dnova: where are you again?
05:39 🔗 undersco2 ny?
05:39 🔗 dnova near buffalo
05:39 🔗 dnova I have to say that because if I say "yes, ny" then people picture times square
05:39 🔗 undersco2 oh ok, cool
05:39 🔗 undersco2 ha, yeah
05:40 🔗 dnova maybe I should let people think that instead of being honest though, haha
05:41 🔗 dnova it's like... buffalo :(
05:41 🔗 dnova "at least we aren't detroit"
05:41 🔗 undersco2 lol
05:42 🔗 chronomex buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo.
05:42 🔗 undersco2 buffalo is cool
05:42 🔗 undersco2 they have teh snowz
05:42 🔗 dnova some of those are supposed to be capitalized, chronomex ;)
05:43 🔗 undersco2 hah
05:45 🔗 dnova how's it going, undersco2?
05:45 🔗 dnova what are you doing in cleveland?
05:45 🔗 undersco2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_satiation
05:45 🔗 chronomex dnova: whatever
05:45 🔗 undersco2 driving home from Detroit, actually
05:45 🔗 dnova good choice
05:45 🔗 undersco2 visiting family for the new year
05:46 🔗 dnova I also have to visit my family in a slum at holidays
05:46 🔗 dnova it's called orlando
05:46 🔗 undersco2 lol
07:01 🔗 SketchCow LEVELANDDDDDDD
07:01 🔗 chronomex wooooo
07:02 🔗 chronomex found a person who worked on the No. 2 ESS software
07:02 🔗 chronomex emailed her
07:02 🔗 chronomex maybe I'll get a response!
07:02 🔗 dnova what's that
07:02 🔗 SketchCow http://i.imgur.com/utdpP.jpg (Slow clap)
07:03 🔗 dnova is that supposed to be pedobear?
07:03 🔗 chronomex I kind of thought that all these people were hard to find
07:04 🔗 dnova just looks like a cute bear from the view on the screen
07:04 🔗 chronomex had to get the name from a 1982 IEEE article
07:04 🔗 dnova looks a little more like pedobear in the actual direct view
17:22 🔗 yipdw goddamn, efnet annoys me
17:22 🔗 yipdw not its no-services policy; that's fine
17:22 🔗 yipdw but how each server has their own ridiculous idiosyncracies
17:22 🔗 yipdw I end up with K-lines on random servers on the irc.efnet.{net,org} for no fucking reason
17:25 🔗 dnova that's all part of the wild ride
17:25 🔗 yipdw seems more of an indication that I should just hardcode one server in
17:25 🔗 yipdw the client setup that is
17:34 🔗 Schbirid i often get klined because of my dynamic ip
17:36 🔗 yipdw the last time I was killed was due to "too many connections from host"
17:36 🔗 yipdw which doesn't make any sense to me, because I am very sure that I am the only one using my current address, what with it being statically assigned and there being (10^38 - 1) other possible addresses
17:39 🔗 yipdw eh, whatever
17:40 🔗 chronomex yipdw: I have good luck with irc.mzima.net
17:41 🔗 yipdw oh cool
17:41 🔗 yipdw I'll give that one a shot, thanks
17:42 🔗 chronomex it's the one networkically closest to seattle, at least
17:42 🔗 yipdw good enough; that's on the same coast as this machine
17:42 🔗 chronomex maybe I should run an efnet server
17:42 🔗 yipdw actually that's a good point, I should go look at their server list and see if they have one in Fremont
17:42 🔗 chronomex for kicks
17:43 🔗 yipdw /kicks
17:43 🔗 chronomex mzima is francisco iirc
17:43 🔗 yipdw LA, close enough though
17:43 🔗 chronomex aye
17:44 🔗 chronomex you'll get lower lag and fewer disconnects probably
17:47 🔗 yipdw so far, so good
18:54 🔗 sundown is it possible to download iphone apps without the itunes software?
18:59 🔗 yipdw sundown: only other mechanism I know of that works is to use the App Store iOS app
19:00 🔗 yipdw I suppose you can run tcpdump / wireshark on a router and sniff packets, though
19:00 🔗 yipdw seems likely that Apple would do all of that over HTTPS
19:00 🔗 sundown i was hoping there would be some open source alternative
19:00 🔗 yipdw there is
19:00 🔗 sundown i dont own a iphone either
19:00 🔗 yipdw don't use iOS :P
19:01 🔗 sundown i wish to archive iphone apps
19:01 🔗 sundown lots of interesting undocumented API urls in some apps :)
19:02 🔗 yipdw I think at the very least you'll need an iTunes account to do that; from there I guess you can reverse-engineer the protocol with e.g. Wireshark
19:03 🔗 yipdw if it is HTTPS, though, that'll be tricky
19:03 🔗 yipdw (or any SSL/TLS-encrypted thing)
19:03 🔗 yipdw unless Apple is lazy and doesn't check certificates
19:03 🔗 yipdw still, worth a shot
19:04 🔗 ersi And you'll need to purchase apps to be able to download them
19:04 🔗 yipdw yeah, unless sundown's just after the free ones
19:05 🔗 sundown usually the apps that require a fee can be found elsewhere
19:36 🔗 * chronomex infrastructure upgrade @ telephone museum
21:00 🔗 SketchCow I have to go
21:00 🔗 SketchCow (Fancy meal with lady)
21:00 🔗 SketchCow BUT
21:00 🔗 SketchCow chronomex and others will be VERY interested:
21:00 🔗 SketchCow http://www.governmentattic.org/5docs/FBI-62-HQ-97308-PhoneSecurity_1952-1995.pdf

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