[00:09] <dashcloud> have you guys seen this? https://twitter.com/#!/herpderpedia
[00:10] <underscor> Yeah
[00:10] <underscor> hahahaha
[00:11] <dashcloud> the oatmeal's kitten bbq gif is also hilarious
[00:14] <Coderjoe> there was also this, but he stopped: https://twitter.com/wikipediawtf
[00:23] <Coderjoe> http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/lamar-smith-sopa-copyright-whoops
[00:28] <NovaKing> http://techfleece.com/2012/01/18/screenshots-of-sopa-pipa-website-protests/
[00:35] <yipdw> man
[00:35] <yipdw> the news is an echo chamber
[00:39] <NovaKing> which for us is a good thing i guess
[00:43] <Coderjoe> "Don't cry. Disney owns the rights to that emotion."
[00:44] <NovaKing> hehe
[00:44] <Coderjoe> (old: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvXo4sGB7zM )
[00:44] <NovaKing> yeah, i remember it
[00:46] <Coderjoe> for the news files: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/facebook/facebook-ceo-mark-zuckerberg-talks-sopa-pipa/7600?tag=mantle_skin;content    and    http://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10100210345757211
[00:51] <dashcloud> http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/sopa/sopa.gif - The Oatmeal's kitten bbq anti-sopa gif
[00:54] <PatC> thats funny
[00:55] <db48x> cool
[00:55] <db48x> Firefox default home page is black
[00:55] <db48x> not non-functional, but black with links to information about SOPA
[00:59] <underscor> Isn't it just about:home?
[00:59] <db48x> yes
[01:01] <underscor> hm, not black here
[01:07] <db48x> they just changed it, for some reason
[01:08] <underscor> [8:08:21 PM EDT] Kenji Nagahashi: (wide ingesting speed is approaching 6TB/day...)
[01:09] <underscor> wide is the crawl that feeds the wayback
[01:17] <db48x> ah, no
[01:17] <db48x> they didn't change it
[01:19] <db48x> it's just that the black out ended at 8pm eastern
[01:20] <db48x> mere seconds before you loaded the page
[01:21] <chronomex> fucking easterners
[01:23] <db48x> heh, yea
[01:23] <db48x> Mozilla is in PST though
[01:32] <balrog> SketchCow: you've probably seen this, but: http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/lamar-smith-serial-copyright-violator
[01:32] <balrog> db48x: I'm in favor of a blackout that lasts until 23:59 everywhere in the world
[01:32] <balrog> which means, largest possible window
[01:44] <NovaKing> i think most sites worked off EST
[01:45] <chronomex> est is for losers
[01:46] <tef> whee I got half a gig :3
[01:51] <db48x> balrog: yea, same here
[01:51] <db48x> btw, have you guys ever read Eastern Standard Tribe?
[01:52] <chronomex> yeah, thats a neat story
[01:52] <db48x> indeed
[01:52] <db48x> a funny idea behind it too
[01:56] <SketchCow> Back
[01:56] <SketchCow> Yeah, it's amazing
[01:57] <SketchCow> (the Lamar thing)
[02:03] <balrog> yeah
[02:03] <balrog> specifically blocking IA
[02:05] <NovaKing> http://www.reddit.com/r/SOPA/comments/omdac/thanking_those_who_didnt_make_the_news_a_guide_to/
[02:44] <db48x> weird
[02:45] <db48x> I have no sensation of taste or temperature in the left half of my tongue
[03:08] <tef> SketchCow: I have more complete captures of sites yipdw listed (with a custom tool instead of wget) - how do I send them to you ?
[03:08] <tef> I also have a shit load of dupes to process first
[03:22] * db48x yawns
[03:22] <db48x> I need a movie to watch
[03:22] <db48x> haven't gotten much programming done, alas
[03:22] <db48x> but I'm calling it a day
[03:54] * lemonkey waves
[03:54] * PatC waves
[03:54] <PatC> I see myself via irssi
[03:54] <SketchCow> HALP
[03:54] <lemonkey> :)
[03:55] <SketchCow> CHANCE OF PUBLIC INVITE NEXT TIME: 0
[03:55] <PatC> heh
[03:55] <lemonkey> sketchcow: LOL
[03:55] <PatC> :P
[03:56] <SketchCow> Yes, this is actually happening.
[03:57] <PatC> :D
[04:01] <tef> I almost want to try and make g+ work to see what the fuck is happening
[04:02] <PatC> Someone just got offtopic
[04:11] <SketchCow> I just left
[04:12] <db48x> SketchCow: hey, you're in SF. how long are you sticking around?
[04:13] <SketchCow> Just to Friday
[04:16] <db48x> ah, so probably can't take you to dinner on friday night then
[04:16] <SketchCow> Man, fuck trixter.
[04:16] <SketchCow> Yeah, busy, sorry
[04:19] <db48x> well, next time you're here then
[04:19] <SketchCow> No problem, I'll be back in February AND march
[04:19] <SketchCow> Going to GDC
[04:19] <db48x> ah, cool
[04:21] <db48x> looking forward to seeing anything in particular there?
[04:23] <db48x> having the left half of my tongue not report taste or temperature is kinda surreal
[04:24] <db48x> my macaroni and cheese feels both hot and cold
[04:33] <SketchCow> What is this, some sort of stroke
[04:36] <balrog> SketchCow: I asked a question before: what do you think are needed default metadata fields in a floppy archival/preservation format?
[04:36] <balrog> there's probably a page on metadata that has the answer
[04:37] <SketchCow> https://wiki.ucop.edu/display/Curation/BagIt
[04:38] <db48x> SketchCow: I hope it's just the ansthesia wearing off
[04:39] <db48x> (after all, it's just my tongue and not the whole left side of my body :)
[04:39] <SketchCow> Right
[04:39] <SketchCow> NUMB ARM
[04:39] <SketchCow> TELL SHEILA I LOVED HER urk
[04:39] <db48x> heh
[04:39] <balrog> hah
[04:40] <SketchCow> Also: http://www.loc.gov/standards/premis/registry/premis-project_name.php?proj_ID=637
[04:42] <SketchCow> What you will find is there's standards floating around and everyone is not done with them and everyone's a fucking wimp and they all drag in the mud for years.
[04:43] <SketchCow> OK, I'm heading home. Got a lot done but never enough.
[04:43] <balrog> BagIt seems usable
[04:43] <SketchCow> That guy, holy shit, he wiped me out.
[04:43] <balrog> oh?
[04:47] <yipdw> SketchCow: just as an FYI, pre-blackout news stories are being uploaded to my module under batcave; the rest + an index are coming shortly
[04:47] <yipdw> SketchCow: also, if you haven't already gotten tef upload access, his archives of some blackout pages are likely more complete than mine due to Javascript fuckery that I couldn't get wget to properly handle
[04:48] <yipdw> also for shits and giggles I want to put all this stuff into a torrent and link it off TPB
[04:54] <yipdw> also
[04:54] <yipdw> http://questionablecontent.net/
[06:45] <arrith> yipdw: zombo.com has a sopa thing
[13:23] <arrith> yipdw: also maddox xmission
[14:28] <tef> yipdw: I can always just send you the warcs eh
[14:37] <tef> yipdw: also I think I have screenshots of the sites on the list
[15:58] <altlabel> hi everybody
[16:00] <altlabel> Am I in time to help for splinder ?
[16:47] <db48x> altlabel: splinder is basically done
[16:48] <db48x> but there are other projects we'd be happy to have help with
[16:50] <altlabel> db48x: oh, I see. Sorry I arrived late, I managed to get some free disk-space just yesterday night :)
[16:50] <db48x> :)
[16:50] <db48x> if you've got plenty of disk space, then the MobileMe project needs downloaders
[16:50] <altlabel> I'd be happy to help
[16:50] <db48x> http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=MobileMe
[19:43] <yipdw> heh
[19:44] <yipdw> of these news stories, I am finding that if we be incredibly generous and assume that ALL of the HTML in the news page itself is news content
[19:45] <yipdw> it still only comes out to like 3% of the size of a WARC of said story
[19:45] <yipdw> the rest is Javascript, HTML, and aids
[19:45] <yipdw> er
[19:45] <yipdw> ads
[19:45] <yipdw> and s/HTML, //
[19:45] <underscor> AIDS
[19:45] <underscor> AIIIIIIIDS
[19:45] <underscor> lol
[19:50] <underscor> http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/01/19/feds-shut-down-file-sharing-website/
[19:50] <underscor> shit shit shit shit shit
[19:50] <underscor> Too bad we didn't archive it
[19:51] <Schbirid> ooooh http://www.hopenumbernine.net/
[19:51] <Schbirid> oh crap :(
[19:51] <Schbirid> kimble, noooo
[19:58] <Schbirid> non fox http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB10001424052970204616504577171060611948408-lMyQjAxMTAyMDEwOTExNDkyWj.html
[19:58] <yipdw> wait, really?
[19:58] <yipdw> I just accessed megaupload yesterdayt
[19:59] <yipdw> oh
[19:59] <yipdw> but they shut it down today
[19:59] <yipdw> I GUESS THE FEDS HAVE MY IP
[19:59] <yipdw> UH OH
[19:59] <Schbirid> minutes ago
[19:59] <Schbirid> nah
[19:59] <yipdw> yeah I don't really acre
[19:59] <yipdw> care
[19:59] <Schbirid> i do
[19:59] <Schbirid> that site was fast and nice
[20:00] <Schbirid> even though kimble is kind of a weirdo
[20:00] <yipdw> I meant about the Feds having my IP
[20:02] <Schbirid> 127.0.0.1
[20:10] <underscor> What I don't get is that they're a hong kong company
[20:10] <underscor> How does that work??????
[20:19] <Ymgve> Some people were arrested in New Zealand apparently?
[20:19] <tef> oh shit man
[20:36] <SketchCow> https://gist.github.com/1641705
[20:36] <SketchCow> B R I L L I A N T
[20:49] <underscor> That is excellent
[20:51] <Schbirid> !
[20:51] <DFJustin> hmm wayback can't archive gist because it always redirects to https
[21:21] <yipdw> DFJustin: just git clone it
[21:29] <underscor> lol
[21:31] <chronomex> ahahahaha nice
[21:41] <closure> wayback can't access https only sites?
[21:44] <marceloan> Megaupload was closed O.O
[21:46] <DFJustin> as far as I can tell it doesn't do https at all
[21:47] <underscor> Yeah
[21:48] <underscor> What I don't get is how they can do that when they're a hong kong company?
[21:48] <underscor> I mean, I guess they can seize the servers that are in the USA, but they had some in NL and other places
[21:48] <marceloan> USA thinks they are "the best"
[21:48] <underscor> I guess NZ complied with the extradition request too
[21:48] <marceloan> The images server is still online
[21:49] <DFJustin> "Federal agents and other law enforcement agencies simultaneously moved to search bank records and server farms in multiple locations around the globe, authorities said."
[21:49] <marceloan> http://wwwstatic.megaupload.com/muimg/logo.gif
[21:49] <DFJustin> so they called their buddies elsewhere and said "hey shut this down on your end too kthx"
[21:50] <DFJustin> well now that's a poor show http://wwwstatic.megaupload.com/robots.txt
[21:50] <marceloan> :(
[21:51] <underscor> :(
[21:51] <underscor> I like the US less and less every day
[21:51] <underscor> <PlastikMann> they actually expect people to believe that they would be making $500 million MORE if it weren't for megaupload???
[21:51] <underscor> I hate the lost sales arguement
[21:51] <underscor> argument*
[21:51] <underscor> >:|
[21:52] <marceloan> http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BUzX5jpdk8cJ:megaupload.com/+Megaupload&cd=2&hl=pt-BR&ct=clnk&gl=br
[21:55] <DFJustin> so it seems like downloading as much as possible from mediafire, rapidshare, etc would be a good idea
[21:56] <NovaKing> it appears so
[21:56] <NovaKing> i wonder if bayfiles will get bigger
[21:56] <marceloan> Yes,
[21:57] <underscor> Thing about downloading mediafire/rapidshare/etc is that there's a pretty good chance you'll end up with illegal content
[21:57] <underscor> D:
[21:57] <marceloan> Welcome to the World War III
[21:58] <marceloan> This time there aren't guns...
[21:58] <nitro2k01> Illegal content != Illegally distributed content
[21:59] <balrog> underscor: plenty of legal and legally distributed content on MU/RS/etc
[21:59] <balrog> I use mediafire for temporary uploads of stuff I produce
[21:59] <underscor> nitro2k01: Touché
[21:59] <underscor> balrog: No, I know that
[21:59] <underscor> I'm just saying that people who participate (if we decided to do such a project) need to be aware of the possible ramifications
[22:00] <balrog> underscor: well yeah
[22:03] <marceloan> @underscor How many TB do you think it will be?
[22:03] <DFJustin> if you have to ask, it's too many
[22:08] <balrog> DFJustin: way more TB than mac.com/mobileme?
[22:09] <marceloan> I think yes
[22:09] <NovaKing> how mant tb would what be? hosting something like MU?
[22:10] <NovaKing> think PB, not TB
[22:10] <DFJustin> RapidShare is one of the world's largest file-hosting sites, with 10 petabytes of files on its servers, and handling up to three million users simultaneously.[3]
[22:11] <marceloan> O.O
[22:11] <NovaKing> it's a lot of data
[22:13] <Ymgve> how large is Usenet, in comparison?
[22:14] <SketchCow> Rapidshare is so dead
[22:15] <SketchCow> We're just kind of fucked with Archive Team getting that.
[22:15] <SketchCow> All I can say is the best policy, if we want to pursue, is look for prominent linkage and grab down things as they get prominence.
[22:16] <SketchCow> I would hope someone is doing that.
[22:16] <SketchCow> We should make a term for it and encourage people out there to do it.
[22:16] <SketchCow> Like Livetap
[22:19] <nitro2k01> Out of curiosity, did you ever get any SERIOUS legal threats, SketchCow? (Not the million dollar one...)
[22:19] <SketchCow> Sure.
[22:20] <Nemo_ter> underscor, is there any public graphs for the overall IA server stats, like ganglia.wikimedia.org?
[22:27] <underscor> Nemo_ter: Not overall
[22:28] <Nemo_ter> underscor, awww
[22:28] <underscor> Every IA server has graphs at ia[6|7]00xxxx.us.archive.org:8088/mrtg
[22:28] <Nemo_ter> yep, I want moar
[22:28] <underscor> http://ia700002.us.archive.org:8088/mrtg/
[22:28] <underscor> Oh, nope
[22:28] <underscor> Sorry
[22:28] <Nemo_ter> I was just looking at how much memory my derive is consuming
[22:29] <Nemo_ter> (40 GiB apparently? :o)
[22:29] <underscor> :D
[22:29] <underscor> SketchCow: You don't think we can archive 10 petabytes of data?
[22:29] <underscor> Nemo_ter: That... doesn't make sense
[22:29] <Nemo_ter> underscor, it's cached http://iw600302.us.archive.org:8088/mrtg/memv2.html http://www.us.archive.org/log_show.php?task_id=94284874
[22:30] <underscor> Oh, yeah, okay
[22:31] <underscor> There's also the host_stats page, but I don't know if regular people can access them
[22:35] <Nemo_ter> no, login required