#archiveteam 2012-01-30,Mon

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01:38 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin hmm need an archive.org browser for .rar files
03:39 ๐Ÿ”— Qwerty0 Just throwing the alert: LiveJournal seems to be deleting inactive accounts in 15 days
03:40 ๐Ÿ”— Qwerty0 can't find any news about it
03:40 ๐Ÿ”— Qwerty0 but if anyone here has an inactive LJ account, you'll have received an email about it
03:41 ๐Ÿ”— Qwerty0 I know I have lots of friends with tons of very personal content on there from years ago
03:43 ๐Ÿ”— Soojin http://www.betabeat.com/2012/01/27/livejournal-delete-accounts-american-comeback-inactive-empty-livejournal-accounts-01272012/
03:44 ๐Ÿ”— Qwerty0 haha, just found that
03:45 ๐Ÿ”— closure they've done this before, or threatened to
03:45 ๐Ÿ”— Qwerty0 can't tell if they've explicitly said they're going to delete actual posts
03:46 ๐Ÿ”— Qwerty0 oh no, so is it already done?
03:46 ๐Ÿ”— Qwerty0 lemme dig out the bookmarks of my friends' LJ's
03:48 ๐Ÿ”— closure yeah, iirc last time it was only empty accounts
03:48 ๐Ÿ”— Qwerty0 oh good
03:48 ๐Ÿ”— Qwerty0 well, my friend's LJ which has been dormant since 2007 is still there
03:49 ๐Ÿ”— closure http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Livejournal
03:50 ๐Ÿ”— Qwerty0 oh, thanks
03:52 ๐Ÿ”— Qwerty0 sometimes it's a little overwhelming the number of sites out there with really culturally valuable data on them
03:52 ๐Ÿ”— Qwerty0 and waning popularity
03:54 ๐Ÿ”— closure and corporate owners who will silo the data away until the moment it's not a business propisition, and then sell the drives on ebay.
03:55 ๐Ÿ”— Qwerty0 well yeah
03:55 ๐Ÿ”— Qwerty0 no thought to its value at all
03:56 ๐Ÿ”— Qwerty0 of course, it'd be dishonest to forget the users who just aren't interested in saving their own work
03:58 ๐Ÿ”— Qwerty0 regardless of whether it's good or bad, the fact is people don't keep their facebook photos in a shoebox like they used to with physical ones
04:11 ๐Ÿ”— Qwerty0 Well, gotta go now but I just wanted to raise the red flag.
04:56 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex LJ is only deleting empty accounts.
04:56 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex this time.
05:19 ๐Ÿ”— bsmith095 seems fair everyone does prunign at some point
05:19 ๐Ÿ”— bsmith095 *pruning
07:23 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw LJ's decision to delete inactive accounts is retarded and a security problem
07:24 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw because LJ is an OpenID provider
07:24 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw and they tie together OpenID identities to journal URIs
07:29 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex oh hrm...
07:29 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex I didn't think of that
07:30 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex they also let you pay to assume the name of a deleted name
07:41 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw chronomex: yeah, their username purging practices are really terrible
07:41 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw well
07:41 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex I'm not really sure why they do it anyway
07:41 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw they're bad in general, since people still act on the "handle -> person" idea
07:41 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw but they're really really bad when you combine them with OpenID
07:41 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw I don't know
07:41 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw maybe to free up popular names
08:16 ๐Ÿ”— lytv รƒยŒรƒยป
08:17 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex precisely
10:53 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis The wiki lacks an how to rescue CDs
10:54 ๐Ÿ”— chronomex learn, then share
10:57 ๐Ÿ”— * ersi shakes fist at optical media
11:22 ๐Ÿ”— * Nemo_bis now trying dares and dd
11:31 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis hard t believe how much crap dares produces
11:31 ๐Ÿ”— void_ Nemo_bis: http://www.forensicswiki.org/wiki/Category:Disk_imaging
11:31 ๐Ÿ”— void_ i suggest you dcfldd
11:33 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis void_, wow, thanks
11:33 ๐Ÿ”— * Nemo_bis adds a link from the wiki
11:34 ๐Ÿ”— void_ http://superuser.com/questions/365481/how-can-i-reliably-archive-the-content-of-udf-formatted-cds-and-dvds
11:35 ๐Ÿ”— void_ read this too, i bookmarked some weeks ago
14:53 ๐Ÿ”— mr_nice ^^
16:17 ๐Ÿ”— altlabel googling archiveteam.org returns "This site may be compromised." ..what happened ?
17:15 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis alard, another wget-warc consuming GB of memory
17:15 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis I guess I just have to kill it and you don't need more logs?
17:16 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow P.S. the opening of this robots series is just flat out zombie movie.
17:41 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw Nemo_bis: are you using a version before or after http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/lh/wget/trunk/revision/2580
17:41 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis yipdw, before I guess
17:42 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw update your copy of wget to latest and see if it happens again
17:42 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Such a relaxing language.
17:42 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis only wget? or do I have to rebuld wget-warc too?
17:43 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw use wget from its Bazaar repository
17:43 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw (wget and wget-warc are, at this point, the same tool)
17:43 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw there just hasn't yet been an official release of wget with the WARC code
17:45 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis ok, will do later, quite busy now
18:22 ๐Ÿ”— alard yipdw/Nemo_bis: Earlier today I updated the get-wget-warc.sh script in the mobileme repository. If you download and run that https://raw.github.com/ArchiveTeam/mobileme-grab/master/get-wget-warc.sh you'll get the latest trunk version of wget.
18:23 ๐Ÿ”— alard Also, I believe Coderjoe mentioned he had fixed even more wget memory errors. I'm not sure if he has made a patch for those fixes yet.
18:54 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis alard, oh, sweet, thanks
19:01 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw alard: cool
19:33 ๐Ÿ”— balrog alard: is there a channel for the mobileme project?
19:35 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis balrog, #memac I think
19:35 ๐Ÿ”— alard balrog: #memac
19:35 ๐Ÿ”— alard Heh.
19:35 ๐Ÿ”— balrog yeah I found it :p
20:26 ๐Ÿ”— zachera Save MegaUpload?
20:27 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin unless you have ninjas to infiltrate the server farm
20:27 ๐Ÿ”— zachera I read somewhere that they're going to start wiping data on Thursday.
20:29 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw or someone's run an OC-768 into the evidence locker
20:32 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin https://twitter.com/#!/textfiles/status/164056624296767488
20:32 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin from the article it sounds like the hosting company doesn't know what the fed is talking about so who knows if they're really going to delete anything
20:33 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin s/fed is/feds are/
20:38 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw rm -rf --gun doesn't require host cooperation
20:39 ๐Ÿ”— zachera Well, I suppose that if ArchiveTeam is powerless, that's a good thing (media frinze and Jason Scott arrested by FBI).
20:40 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow NOT AGAIN
20:41 ๐Ÿ”— * SketchCow assumes the position
20:42 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis hm, tomorrow Splinder will go down
20:43 ๐Ÿ”— * ersi snores
20:44 ๐Ÿ”— ersi zachera: Let us hear you detail a rescue plan
20:47 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow So as far as we know, we "pretty much" got all of Splinder.
20:47 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw well, sans their application servers fucking up, but there's not much that can be done there
20:47 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Right
20:47 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Sometimes the juice box gets a bit crushed
20:47 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw I've re-ran a few grabs multiple times and the noconns keep showing up
20:48 ๐Ÿ”— DFJustin the stuff on batcave still needs to be error-checked though right
20:48 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw I'm not sure it's worth the time
20:49 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw I mean, say errors are found -- what can you do about it?
20:49 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw re-run a few hundred megabyte fetch?
20:49 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw I guess knowing which ones have errors is useful
20:50 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow I fully understand we've not gotten them all.
20:50 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw ooh, that reminds me, I need to finish Proust
20:50 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow And some are a little messed.
20:51 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis Many people didn't say they uploaded their stuff on the wiki
20:51 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis How many users are actually in batcave?
20:51 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis or GB
20:54 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw argh damnit, I need to stop doing this "lunch at 3 PM" shit
21:15 ๐Ÿ”— balrog "For the time being: please ignore any errors caused by special characters in usernames (| ^ etc.), we'll get those profiles later."
21:15 ๐Ÿ”— balrog you got them?
21:37 ๐Ÿ”— Coderjoe alard: i haven't found anything to fix. I discovered that your memory leak fix seemed to fix any leaks I had in recursive mode
22:22 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis alard, do we have those users mentioned by balrog_ph then?
22:23 ๐Ÿ”— alard Not that I know.
22:23 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis I've deleted mine btw
23:04 ๐Ÿ”— don SketchCow: what cartridge?
23:04 ๐Ÿ”— don syquest cartridge
23:13 ๐Ÿ”— mach hi. today, a once popular social networking site in the uk, bebo, was shut down without warning
23:21 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis Finished gregoryx - mar 31 gen 2012, 00.20.27, CET
23:21 ๐Ÿ”— Nemo_bis Time elapsed: 881m 40s
23:35 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow Whoops
23:35 ๐Ÿ”— SketchCow (Bebo
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