#archiveteam 2012-03-17,Sat

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03:50 🔗 ivan` https://ludios.org/tmp/er-pw.7z password VimTx3zjN9h8sFZ4 in case anyone wants a copy of electricretard, now gone
03:50 🔗 ivan` I know you guys don't discriminate against things that are offensive in every way possible
03:52 🔗 ivan` (really, save your brain, don't view it)
03:56 🔗 BlueMax ...why password it?
03:56 🔗 Ymgve probably some stupid webhost rules
03:59 🔗 ivan` sorry about that, I can't have the unencrypted contents on that server
04:06 🔗 BlueMax OK, fair enough
04:07 🔗 bsmith094 what is this?
04:10 🔗 ivan` vile webcomic
04:10 🔗 ivan` not sure English has the words for it
04:10 🔗 bsmith094 how vile, considering, in the vien of strisand effect i just grabbed it?
04:11 🔗 ivan` if you're for rape and murder in MS Paint format...
04:12 🔗 bsmith094 ergh, ok off my hd now, foul beast , thank for the warning
04:17 🔗 underscor Rape and murder, the AT special
04:17 🔗 chronomex rape in the classic sense of violent nonconsensual acquisition
04:18 🔗 underscor distributed rape of service attacks
04:19 🔗 underscor http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/lawpoli/colour/2004061001.php Excellent article about copyright and its deficiencies
05:10 🔗 closure http://www.archive.org/details/personaldigitalarchiving2012pt1
05:32 🔗 db48x`` closure: awesome
05:33 🔗 closure also pt2
05:38 🔗 db48x`` stupid dns
05:42 🔗 DFJustin the sound sync is off on at least jason's talk (haven't tried others yet)
05:43 🔗 closure which encode?
05:44 🔗 DFJustin new video player so presumably ogv
06:10 🔗 undersco2 DFJustin: File itself is okay it seems, though
06:10 🔗 undersco2 anyone know how mobileme is progressing wrt finishing by d-day?
06:13 🔗 db48x`` the one I'm watching is out of sync too
06:14 🔗 undersco2 downloaded x264s look nice
10:53 🔗 Nemo_ter sigh poor Nemo_bis http://www.us.archive.org/log_show.php?task_id=98826597
14:42 🔗 undersco2 Nemo_bis: Doesn't look like there was anything wrong with the actual item
14:42 🔗 undersco2 Want me to rerun it?
15:32 🔗 SketchCow IS MY FACE RED
15:32 🔗 SketchCow Anyway, hi
15:34 🔗 SketchCow What's up.
15:42 🔗 alard SketchCow: Hi. It seems that FortuneCity doesn't like us anymore.
15:43 🔗 undersco2 http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/p480x480/432305_10101411546196923_2227361_68948422_2082085079_n.jpg
15:43 🔗 undersco2 Yeah, we're being banned
15:43 🔗 undersco2 Fortunately, bluevm has an excellent offering, $1.13 a month for a VM that's a perfect proxy host
15:43 🔗 undersco2 500GB transit too
15:44 🔗 Schbirid Could not connect to remote server
15:44 🔗 undersco2 Looks like they're dropping us at the firewall, as opposed to 403'ing
16:05 🔗 SketchCow No?
16:05 🔗 SketchCow Oh, Fortunecity, whatever did we do to you.
16:05 🔗 SketchCow OK, let's take this development to the project channel.
16:05 🔗 undersco2 rape --hard http://fortunecity.com
16:20 🔗 undersco2 http://blog.sendapatch.se/2010/february/this-might-seem-silly-git-pull.html
16:36 🔗 SketchCow Quick, gussy up and stick the beer cans under the couch, we have guests coming!!!
16:37 🔗 undersco2 Uh oh
16:40 🔗 Nullsleep hello gentlemen
16:42 🔗 SketchCow Hello!
16:43 🔗 LimbClock hello
16:43 🔗 balrog hi SketchCow
16:43 🔗 undersco2 hello!
16:43 🔗 yipdw bon tarde
16:44 🔗 SketchCow Limbclock and Nullsleep, hie thee to #fortuneshitty to get client instructions.
16:44 🔗 SketchCow They're blocking us as they go
16:44 🔗 balrog :<
16:44 🔗 LimbClock :I
16:44 🔗 LimbClock K?
16:44 🔗 balrog when are they going away?
16:44 🔗 tef_ have they blocked aws ?
16:44 🔗 SketchCow So we need more people as we go
16:44 🔗 LimbClock wait
16:44 🔗 LimbClock sorry
16:44 🔗 LimbClock i am on a mac :)
16:45 🔗 lee_ BANGARANG! I WISH TO RESCUE THE CITY OF FORTUNE
16:45 🔗 Nullsleep ^lol
16:45 🔗 Nullsleep the power of @textfiles tweets
16:45 🔗 lee_ is there a filelist or summit?
16:45 🔗 LimbClock Indeeed.
16:45 🔗 tef_ hee
16:45 🔗 marceloan BANGARANG and-I-don't-remember-what
16:45 🔗 marceloan How can I help?
16:45 🔗 LimbClock i just came here to check out what's happenin.
16:46 🔗 LimbClock cause i'm curious. Like a shark near a horrible boating accident
16:47 🔗 marceloan Why they (FortuneCity) said about it?
16:47 🔗 lee_ we have until April 30 until the free parts of FortuneCity go dark, eh?
16:47 🔗 marceloan *What
16:47 🔗 undersco2 #fortuneshitty
16:47 🔗 LimbClock we're gonna need a bigger hard drive.
16:47 🔗 lee_ http://www.fortunecity.com/
16:47 🔗 undersco2 (for fortunecity rescuing, see #fortuneshitty )
16:47 🔗 * lee_ finds his bigger hard drive
16:48 🔗 tef_ hey did the warc-wget fix the warcs it wrote
16:49 🔗 SketchCow lee_: Get over to #fortuneshitty
16:49 🔗 LimbClock seriously though @textfiles tweeted for people to come to IRC, and seeing that i spend most of my time on IRC anyhow...
16:49 🔗 alard tef_: What was wrong with the warcs?
16:49 🔗 undersco2 Now imagine if @sockington tweeted instead of @textfiles
16:50 🔗 balrog whom exactly are they blocking?
16:50 🔗 undersco2 hey fortunecity's shutting down THAT'S NOT VERY NICE come save them on irc PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
16:50 🔗 undersco2 balrog: Blocking people at the firewall level after they download a lot
16:50 🔗 balrog ahh, ugh
16:50 🔗 marceloan My IP changes
16:50 🔗 LimbClock that's a bit shitty....
16:50 🔗 marceloan I have dial-up xD
16:51 🔗 marceloan I may block whole Brazil on FortuneCity servers
16:51 🔗 undersco2 hahaha
16:51 🔗 tef_ alard: oh it preserved the headers of the http message but transformed the body
16:51 🔗 undersco2 well, once they're shut down anyway...
16:51 🔗 tef_ so you'd get transfer-encoding: chunked in the headers of the http message
16:52 🔗 tef_ but an unchunked body
16:52 🔗 tef_ someone else reported it it might have been fixed upstream
16:52 🔗 tef_ I did write a postprocessing script to fix it in warctools
16:53 🔗 balrog well at least Apple didn't block people for pulling mobileme :<
16:53 🔗 alard tef_: Ah yes, the chunked encoding has been fixed.
16:53 🔗 tef_ alard: \o/
16:54 🔗 undersco2 balrog: I don't think they care
16:54 🔗 undersco2 It's on akamai
16:54 🔗 balrog undersco2: ahh, true
16:54 🔗 tef_ alard: fwiw I did a token crawler in python https://github.com/tef/crawler/blob/master/crawler.py
16:55 🔗 tef_ but it has to reconstruct http messages :/
16:55 🔗 LimbClock tef_: i, a pleb, with some very minimal python experience am going to see if i can read it
16:55 🔗 tef_ LimbClock: ping me if you have issues - it shouldn't be too terrible beyond the multithreading :v
16:56 🔗 LimbClock tef_: eh, i'm more interested in seeing if i can understand how it functions. Heck, i just draw comics and animation 90% of my time
16:56 🔗 alard tef_: Ah, may be useful sometime. (Something else that might be useful: a proxy that records everything to a warc, so you can use any http client you like and it'll all get recorded.)
16:56 🔗 tef_ alard: I have one of those at work but it's uhm, tied to work - I could always hack mitmproxy to do it
16:57 🔗 alard Well, I don't really need it right now. There's wget. Just an idea.
16:57 🔗 tef_ alard: I wrote a http parser we use for parsing from files and from sockets, that's been released. been meaning to pull out the proxy too
16:57 🔗 pberry BANGARANG! I WISH TO RESCUE THE CITY OF FORTUNE
16:57 🔗 tef_ alard: yeah, well the plan is to do more to warctools in my mythical free time
16:58 🔗 tef_ alard: atm i've been focused on a rpc wrapper for python i've been writing, (another work project)
16:58 🔗 alard pberry: Welcome, join #fortuneshitty and look here: http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=FortuneCity
16:58 🔗 pberry on it
16:58 🔗 tef_ so i'm going to hook up the example crawler to it and make it distributed :3
16:58 🔗 LimbClock ah
16:58 🔗 LimbClock from my pleb perspective, i can say that it's object-oriented python programming
16:59 🔗 tef_ that's a fair accusation
16:59 🔗 LimbClock actually it's good to read this
16:59 🔗 LimbClock i get a small level of understanding how objects are constructed in python!
17:00 🔗 tef_ LimbClock: objects are like containers for what would have been global variables before in many cases
17:00 🔗 tef_ so, the self.x restricts it to the scope of the object - i.e the object is just a container of some state variables
17:00 🔗 LimbClock tef_: keep in mind you're talking to an animator. :D
17:00 🔗 LimbClock who tried to battle alcoholism by trying to concentrate learning python...
17:00 🔗 tef_ LimbClock: well, an object is like a layer - you use it to seperate concerns in your output so you can manipulate them seperately
17:01 🔗 LimbClock i see.
17:01 🔗 tef_ and you can compose your scene from objects
17:01 🔗 tef_ unlike a layer though - you can define the operations on an object
17:01 🔗 tef_ for example, if in python
17:01 🔗 tef_ s = "abc" you can have s.upper() and s.lower()
17:01 🔗 tef_ but on s = [1,2,3] you can have s.sort() etc
17:02 🔗 tef_ so objects are an abstraction over some state or data, with a bunch of methods (functions) trapped alongside the data that operate on them
17:02 🔗 tef_ we're meant to use them to contain complexity
17:02 🔗 LimbClock i really need to get some bearded guru with Level 20 patience to teach me some basics of programming
17:02 🔗 tef_ but in reality people use objects for the sake of it and we end up with more as result
17:02 🔗 tef_ LimbClock: the best guru to learn from is yourself
17:03 🔗 tef_ LimbClock: be patient, be willing to ask questions and be willing to find answers on your own terms
17:03 🔗 LimbClock tef_: but surely if you want to add functionality to the program itself, it's best to build a new object?
17:03 🔗 tef_ LimbClock: it can depend on the existing functionality
17:03 🔗 tef_ sometimes you can extend an existing object to add new behaviours, or you can wrap a few objects in a new one, or you can edit existing ones
17:04 🔗 LimbClock intersting.
17:04 🔗 tef_ understanding objects is easy compared to using them effectively but that takes time and lots of mistakes
17:04 🔗 LimbClock interesting.
17:04 🔗 tef_ objects are black boxes for data , where the mainpulation is defined in terms of methods
17:04 🔗 tef_ LimbClock: you can understand how to draw a sketch and such
17:05 🔗 LimbClock a bit.
17:05 🔗 tef_ but being a good animator requires knowing more than that - how the scene should work and compose, line of action etc
17:05 🔗 LimbClock timing
17:05 🔗 LimbClock spacing
17:05 🔗 tef_ right now you should be focused on shitty code
17:05 🔗 LimbClock shooting on 1s or 2s...
17:05 🔗 LimbClock and top or bottom pegs.
17:05 🔗 tef_ because it is all you will write
17:05 🔗 SketchCow Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65PiKsNhCsc
17:05 🔗 tef_ and when you get older you realize it is all you will ever write, but that is ok
17:05 🔗 LimbClock tef_: have you experience in animation too?
17:05 🔗 tef_ because by that time you will have learned enough to blame the computer
17:05 🔗 tef_ LimbClock: i'm a fan and a nerd
17:06 🔗 LimbClock Nerd ;)
17:06 🔗 tef_ LimbClock: I've learned some technicalities from enthusiastic people
17:06 🔗 LimbClock tef_: actually that's a good parable
17:06 🔗 tef_ but I just like details
17:06 🔗 tef_ LimbClock: i'm a burnt out programmer
17:06 🔗 SketchCow OK, major channel derail
17:06 🔗 SketchCow Take it to private
17:06 🔗 tef_ yes
17:06 🔗 tef_ sorry!
17:06 🔗 tef_ I get a little too enthusiastic
17:06 🔗 LimbClock i realise that i do kinda shitty animation (Plus my drawing skills regarding movement in 3D space are poor) but like, that motivates me to not get depressed about id:
17:06 🔗 SketchCow We like enthusiasm
17:06 🔗 LimbClock I AM GOING TO KILL SO MANY SHARKS
17:06 🔗 tef_ just more focused on saving shit
17:06 🔗 SketchCow But don't make me fill this channel with hentai game reviews, for example
17:08 🔗 SketchCow But seriously, guys, Tokimeki_Check-in!
17:08 🔗 LimbClock SketchCow: one more side thing
17:08 🔗 undersco2 hahah
17:08 🔗 LimbClock SketchCow: make sure to mirror Old Man Murray before something bad happens
17:08 🔗 undersco2 I bet SketchCow has the biggest hentai collectiob
17:09 🔗 undersco2 s/ob/on/
17:09 🔗 LimbClock he faps to tentacles
17:09 🔗 ragechin BANGARANG! I WISH TO RESCUE THE CITY OF FORTUNE
17:09 🔗 ragechin (lawl)
17:09 🔗 undersco2 ragechin: Welcome!
17:09 🔗 undersco2 lol
17:09 🔗 undersco2 ragechin: join #fortuneshitty and look here: http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=FortuneCity
17:09 🔗 ragechin lolol
17:10 🔗 SketchCow BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANG A RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANG
17:10 🔗 ragechin Oooooooo
17:10 🔗 ragechin SketchCow's call to action on the twitterverse brought me here
17:10 🔗 ragechin Sure, I'll be happy to use my otherwise idle servers for something good
17:10 🔗 SketchCow Well, they're seriously blocking us
17:10 🔗 SketchCow So the key is just to get started, and not try and be a hero and get 2000 simultaneous attacks going
17:10 🔗 SketchCow I want to keep adding people
17:11 🔗 ragechin Noted.
17:11 🔗 ragechin I'll just toss it on that one *points* and forget about it
17:11 🔗 Schbirid ragechin: /join #fortuneshitty
17:12 🔗 SketchCow com/members/n/n6/n64/com-members-n64_cheats_r_us-20120317-170603.warc.gz
17:12 🔗 SketchCow SAVED
17:12 🔗 SketchCow \o/
17:12 🔗 ragechin So what's up with the special version of wget?
17:12 🔗 SketchCow http://members.fortunecity.com/n64_cheats_r_us/
17:12 🔗 undersco2 ragechin: It writes WARCs
17:12 🔗 Schbirid it compresses to a special website archiving format
17:12 🔗 SketchCow We like to have two formats
17:12 🔗 undersco2 Web Archive
17:12 🔗 undersco2 It saves details about the actual transaction with the server
17:12 🔗 tef_ SketchCow: fwiw I just mentioned http://vimeo.com/36579366 to LimbClock but it is so good I am going to mention it here again (bret victor, inventing on principle)
17:12 🔗 undersco2 (headers, etc)
17:12 🔗 ragechin Cool.
17:13 🔗 SketchCow I was telling people about that so long ago
17:13 🔗 SketchCow It's about changing lives
17:13 🔗 tef_ SketchCow: I recalled - that is why I pasted it again
17:13 🔗 ragechin Okay. I'mma compile and get this going.. then run off to battle the daystar on this lovely Texa afternoon
17:13 🔗 ragechin texas*
17:13 🔗 undersco2 Editgrid is so much better than google docs
17:13 🔗 tef_ it owns! to me it was about the fight in life for a meaning beyond craft and embracing a cause
17:17 🔗 ragechin ok. it's running. AFK
17:18 🔗 Schbirid ragechin: run more than one if you can
17:18 🔗 ragechin yeah. have three going
17:18 🔗 ragechin ill start up a few more on another server
17:18 🔗 Schbirid sweet
17:18 🔗 ragechin eh. later tonight.i cant remember that password
17:18 🔗 undersco2 ragechin: awesome
17:18 🔗 Schbirid *******
17:18 🔗 ragechin and im kinda lazy
17:19 🔗 ragechin oh. shit. that's right. it's hunter2
17:19 🔗 undersco2 lol
17:19 🔗 tef_ :rimshot:
17:19 🔗 Schbirid *secret "old time" nerd handshake*
17:32 🔗 SketchCow Don't too too many, or they'll banninate
17:32 🔗 SketchCow We're seeing a lot of that.
17:41 🔗 SketchCow http://audio.sxsw.com/2012/podcasts/12-OMN-Saying_Good_Bye_to_Your_Digital.mp3
17:41 🔗 SketchCow Chronomex' time to shine!!!
17:41 🔗 undersco2 :o
17:42 🔗 ragechin So, how often do you guys want us to upload our results?
17:42 🔗 ragechin Will every 12hrs work?
17:42 🔗 undersco2 ragechin: Are you seesawing or dld-client?
17:42 🔗 ragechin seesaw
17:42 🔗 undersco2 It does it all automatically then
17:42 🔗 undersco2 :)
17:42 🔗 ragechin Oh. Awesome.
17:42 🔗 ragechin I'll just forget it exists then
17:42 🔗 SketchCow Yes
17:42 🔗 SketchCow Restart it if it blorps
17:43 🔗 undersco2 (which happens somewhat often)
17:44 🔗 undersco2 may want to throw it in a while true loop
17:52 🔗 ragechin Yeah, I'll deal with that later
18:05 🔗 SketchCow OK, I REALLY need to be shoving mobileme into the hole.
18:05 🔗 LimbClock I wonder who is going to archive all the stuff that's currently on TV, for the future generation. Pirates, maybe, but torrents need seends...
18:06 🔗 Schbirid archive.org does some
18:06 🔗 LimbClock I don't think they have such awesomeness like CLone High.
18:06 🔗 LimbClock or Liquid TV.
18:07 🔗 LimbClock (which i can't access cause i'm in Finland....)
18:15 🔗 AdmiralA BANGARANG! I WISH TO RESCUE THE CITY OF FORTUNE
18:30 🔗 Schbirid AdmiralA: /join #fortuneshitty
18:37 🔗 lee_ trying to create an account on archiveteam.org gives this error:
18:37 🔗 lee_ Fatal error: Call to a member function userCannot() on a non-object in /home/archivet/public_html/extensions/TitleBlacklist/TitleBlacklist.hooks.php on line 86
18:38 🔗 SketchCow Archive.org currently digitizes 75 channels.
18:40 🔗 LimbClock oh cool
18:40 🔗 LimbClock What about the cartoons though? (most important thing)
18:47 🔗 ersi LimbClock: A lot of that actually does get archived
18:48 🔗 ersi Maybe not duplicated to the extreme, but it's not like it's thrown away after being aired
18:48 🔗 LimbClock coo
18:48 🔗 LimbClock and i trust most of MST3K is archived as well ;)
18:50 🔗 ersi whatever that now is
18:51 🔗 ersi worth knowing is that we're not archive.org btw
18:52 🔗 tef_ this belongs in an archive!
18:54 🔗 Schbirid <SketchCow> http://audio.sxsw.com/2012/podcasts/12-OMN-Saying_Good_Bye_to_Your_Digital.mp3 <- great
18:55 🔗 Insectoid I'd like to volunteer my connection and shell to the cause, is there a getting started guide/something I can jump on immediately?
18:56 🔗 Schbirid yes, /join #fortuneshitty
18:56 🔗 Schbirid and see the topic there
18:56 🔗 Schbirid welcome ;)
18:56 🔗 Insectoid Oh .. the password
18:56 🔗 Insectoid BANGARANG! I WISH TO RESCUE THE CITY OF FORTUNE
18:57 🔗 Schbirid heh
18:57 🔗 AdmiralA told you so
18:58 🔗 Schbirid Insectoid: http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=FortuneCity and/or /join #fortuneshitty
19:47 🔗 SmittyHal Hang on, what is it that @textfiles told me to say upon joining? "BANGARANG! I WISH TO RESCUE THE CITY OF FORTUNE!" How's that?
19:48 🔗 AdmiralA "friend" in elvish works too
19:48 🔗 ersi Join up in #fortuneshitty hehe
19:48 🔗 ersi For fortunecity archiving :)
19:49 🔗 SmittyHal ersi On my way
21:00 🔗 delon22 http://www.wix.com/xteensx/best-teens-porn-movies YOUNG TEEN FUCKED BY 15 BIG COCKS
21:01 🔗 nitro2k01 Riveting tale, chap
21:01 🔗 nitro2k01 You it's got to be good when the url says best
21:05 🔗 DFJustin are we talking 15 cocks serially or in parallel
21:06 🔗 nitro2k01 Serial. So, a mantrain with female termination.
21:07 🔗 chronomex bag of dicks http://www.nwadventures.us/images/MayallDicks.jpg
21:07 🔗 AdmiralA I had a horrible nightmare about that once
21:07 🔗 AdmiralA that was one hell of an orgy
21:07 🔗 AdmiralA my mind is where the romans go to fuck
21:08 🔗 Schbirid nitro2k01: Slut Cock Serial Interface?
21:08 🔗 nitro2k01 Yes!
21:09 🔗 chronomex woop woop woop off-topic siren
21:15 🔗 lee_ yes, please stick to paranoia, rage and kleptomania
21:15 🔗 lee_ now if you were upset that your faithful wife were stealing your bag of dicks, that could be discussed
21:16 🔗 chronomex yes.
21:17 🔗 delon22 http://xteensx.info/2012/01/27/angelina-jolie-sex-scenes-complete-a-look-back-at-angelina-hottest-sexiest-sex-scenes/
21:19 🔗 nitro2k01 *!*@79.125.168.* plz
21:19 🔗 chronomex k
21:19 🔗 nitro2k01 kthx lol
21:29 🔗 delon22 http://xteensx.info/2011/11/25/girlfriend-forced-boyfriend-to-suck-black-cock-while-she-fucked/
21:31 🔗 nitro2k01 /ban *!*delon22@*
21:31 🔗 chronomex fuckers
21:31 🔗 nitro2k01 inb4 delon43
21:31 🔗 dan_ or 79.125.160.1 - 79.125.191.254
21:32 🔗 chronomex fuck em all
21:32 🔗 chronomex I will ban a whole country if that's what it takes
21:42 🔗 lee_ ok, serious question: why aren't people as upset about the deletion of KORAN.TXT as the burning of a paper copy?
21:42 🔗 lee_ this is the sort of thing that keeps me up at night
21:42 🔗 chronomex that's quite the quandary
21:43 🔗 lee_ ok, it's actually my scrabble addiction that keeps me up at night
21:43 🔗 lee_ but I do wonder
21:43 🔗 lee_ like, is an ebook version of the Koran venerated as being a holy object?
21:44 🔗 lee_ and if so, does the flash chip holding the bits become holy, too?
21:44 🔗 lee_ or just the screen when the words appear
21:44 🔗 lee_ I don't get bibliolatry
21:45 🔗 lee_ although archive team's pack-rattery is also impressive to behold
21:46 🔗 AdmiralA definitely an interesting question
21:46 🔗 AdmiralA maybe you ought to ask the "dude you got no quran" guy
21:47 🔗 lee_ who, the preacher in FL?
21:48 🔗 AdmiralA this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HX5-ulcdXc
21:48 🔗 * lee_ imagines a telex style machine that prints the koran directly into a shredder
21:48 🔗 chronomex lee_: spin up a zillion copies of the quran on appengine and let google delete it
21:48 🔗 AdmiralA root you have no koran.txt
21:48 🔗 lee_ ooh, then you could recccycle the shred into new paper and do it again
21:48 🔗 chronomex that would make an interesting art installation
21:49 🔗 * lee_ works for Google
21:49 🔗 chronomex excellent
21:49 🔗 AdmiralA members.linode.com
21:50 🔗 AdmiralA there was an interesting article on why this guy left google on the grounds that it lost its original vision
21:50 🔗 AdmiralA not as innovative as it used to be
21:50 🔗 lee_ companies don't have vision, people do
21:50 🔗 * chronomex blind
21:50 🔗 lee_ and his vision was probably impared by having his head up his ass
21:50 🔗 chronomex hahaha
21:51 🔗 lee_ but I didn't work with him directly and haven't paid too much attention
21:51 🔗 lee_ sure, companies change
21:51 🔗 lee_ because the people in them change
21:51 🔗 chronomex ignore him. world's full of whiners.
21:51 🔗 lee_ especially the leadership, sometimes they decide to take a new direction with their company
21:51 🔗 lee_ eg: Google+
21:51 🔗 yipdw google hasn't lost its vision, they just need LASIK
21:52 🔗 DFJustin there seem to be different opinions, can't find one on deletion right off but http://www.ilmgate.org/touching-an-iphone-or-pc-which-has-qur%E2%80%99an-stored-on-its-memory-without-wudu/
21:52 🔗 lee_ wudu?
21:52 🔗 yipdw hm
21:52 🔗 AdmiralA wudhu, a ritual of cleansing before prayer
21:53 🔗 AdmiralA washing the hands, feet and such
21:53 🔗 AdmiralA muslims are expected to do so before praying and before touching the quran
21:54 🔗 yipdw the answer in that article, to me, seems to be asking for more questions
21:54 🔗 yipdw what does it mean to "inscribe" the verses?
21:55 🔗 yipdw does that imply human comprehensibility of some sort? what if I take an iPhone to the bathroom with an oscilloscope jacked into it so that I can't see the screen but can see memory transfers? or am I just being an ass?
21:55 🔗 lee_ what if you're logging into your mosque's website?
21:55 🔗 chronomex 1) you are being an ass 2) the answer to this question matters very much to someone
21:55 🔗 AdmiralA http://blogs.msdn.com/b/jw_on_tech/archive/2012/03/13/why-i-left-google.aspx
21:55 🔗 AdmiralA there's your article
21:56 🔗 lee_ yeah, I've been avoiding it
21:56 🔗 lee_ I know how to search ;-)
21:56 🔗 AdmiralA and here's evidence of google hunting game!
21:56 🔗 AdmiralA http://imgur.com/7TLHu
21:56 🔗 chronomex AWESOME.
21:57 🔗 lee_ streetview drivers have seen far worse than that
21:57 🔗 lee_ imagine driving every street in your own city
21:57 🔗 AdmiralA kids in the buff
21:57 🔗 AdmiralA a hick with a shotgun
21:58 🔗 AdmiralA actually, that was redundant
21:58 🔗 AdmiralA a hick says enough
21:58 🔗 AdmiralA the shotgun is automatically assumed
21:58 🔗 chronomex naked hick kids with guns
21:58 🔗 chronomex woop woop woop off-topic siren
21:59 🔗 lee_ what's the archiveteam view on surveillance?
21:59 🔗 lee_ it's like archiving photons, no?
22:00 🔗 lee_ because this is going to be an issue when everyone has spex with video recording & upload features
22:00 🔗 lee_ (these exist already from 3rd parties, I know nothing)
22:00 🔗 AdmiralA well, I'm off for now
22:00 🔗 AdmiralA will join in the fortune saving later
22:01 🔗 lee_ AdmiralA: that's what screen is for, eh?
22:01 🔗 chronomex really, it takes 2 minutes to start
22:01 🔗 AdmiralA that's what screen is indeed for
22:01 🔗 AdmiralA and it does take all of two minutes
22:01 🔗 AdmiralA but laziness is virtue
22:01 🔗 chronomex not that kind of laziness
22:01 🔗 AdmiralA or so said FakeConfucius on twitter
22:01 🔗 lee_ procrastination is not a virtue, though
22:02 🔗 AdmiralA fake confucius dispense real advice
22:02 🔗 yipdw yeah, sorry for being an ass, I've just been trapped in an airport all day and am going slightly crazy
22:15 🔗 lee_ I love getting threshold alerts from my Linode monitoring
22:15 🔗 lee_ it smells like victory
22:17 🔗 chronomex lol
22:19 🔗 lee_ just disk io, obviously needs to be bumped
22:19 🔗 chronomex which is your favorite?
22:19 🔗 lee_ bandwidth quota reached
22:20 🔗 lee_ I run a tor bridge which sees a little traffic and some bit torrent seeds
22:20 🔗 chronomex their transfer percent-used thing is a lie
22:21 🔗 chronomex quota: 300g, total: 31.3g, you have used: 1%
22:35 🔗 despens BANGARANG! I WISH TO RESCUE THE CITY OF FORTUNE
22:36 🔗 alard despens: Hi, welcome. Please join #fortuneshitty !
22:38 🔗 despens that looks very comfortable and easy to use
22:38 🔗 despens congrats
22:39 🔗 chronomex yes, it's very streamlined
22:40 🔗 undersco2 re archiving photons, this is a very good article that's sorta related
22:40 🔗 undersco2 http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/lawpoli/colour/2004061001.php
23:17 🔗 godane for somereason i can't mirror torrent freak
23:17 🔗 godane i only get the index.html
23:18 🔗 godane and its a binary from what i can tell
23:21 🔗 undersco2 godane: is it sending it gziped or something?
23:22 🔗 godane yes
23:25 🔗 godane it still only downloads index.html
23:25 🔗 undersco2 hm
23:25 🔗 godane i added --header="accept-encoding: gzip"
23:30 🔗 godane i think torrentfreak uses wordpress

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